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From the later 60's I recall a small old shopping center on the corner
of maybe Grant and Campbell or Ft. Lowell? Unfortunately, I don't seem
to remember exactly which streets. It had a couple little art shops and
a silversmith and a Mexican restaurant. Ted De Grazia had done art work
all over the inside walls of the restaurant. Can anyone help me with
the location or name? I think I remember hearing it was the oldest
shopping center in Tucson. Thanks.

Hi,

It wasn't a mall but one of DeGazia's early studios like the Gallery In The Sun.? It was on Prince & Campbell. I believe it was torn down long ago.

I was friends with one of his grandsons who fixed up one of the sections and lived there while he was attending the U of A.

I forget the name of the restaurant, but I was never interested in eating there. Just seemed too dirty to me. I remember them using paper plates too, but I think that was toward the end when they were maybe going downhill. I remember that they had a very loyal following.

DeGrazia left most of his fortune to the DeGrazia Foundation and to an illegitimate son. His other children didn't get much, the biggest asset he left them I believe was this property on Prince. Do you remember when DeGrazia protested the inheritance tax by burning 100 of his paintings in the Superstition Mountains?

ldjscott1 wrote:

From the later 60's I recall a small old shopping center on the corner
of maybe Grant and Campbell or Ft. Lowell? Unfortunately, I don't seem
to remember exactly which streets. It had a couple little art shops and
a silversmith and a Mexican restaurant. Ted De Grazia had done art work
all over the inside walls of the restaurant. Can anyone help me with
the location or name? I think I remember hearing it was the oldest
shopping center in Tucson. Thanks.




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--- In vanishingtucson@..., "ldjscott1" <ldjscott1@...> wrote:

From the later 60's I recall a small old shopping center on the corner
of maybe Grant and Campbell or Ft. Lowell? Unfortunately, I don't seem
to remember exactly which streets. It had a couple little art shops and
a silversmith and a Mexican restaurant. Ted De Grazia had done art work
all over the inside walls of the restaurant. Can anyone help me with
the location or name? I think I remember hearing it was the oldest
shopping center in Tucson. Thanks.

De Grazia's was on the South East corner of Campbell and Prince. The restaurant was located
where his studio stood at one time.

I remember the restaurant
but i think it was north of Glenn and south of beyond bread on the
east side where the gas station is now... De Grazia use to hold court
there w/ his bottle of Chavas scotch.. they had holes w/ marbles in
all the doors and we could bring our beer and put it in their refrig,
the old lady Rosa Rosita..? made a great deep fried cheese crisp, so
puffy topped w/ cheese and vegs.. this was 1972 - late 70's then
they moved to the Price and Campbell location and was never the same

Michael
--- In vanishingtucson@..., "Lee ." <azlee1@...> wrote:

Yeah, it was on the southeast corner of Prince and Campbell (gas

station

there now) The restaurant was Rosa's or something close to that. I

ate there

once back in about 79 shortly after I moved out here.

--Lee

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:45 PM, <joebuck95@...> wrote:

Hi,

It wasn't a mall but one of DeGazia's early studios like the

Gallery In

The Sun. It was on Prince & Campbell. I believe it was torn down

long ago.

I was friends with one of his grandsons who fixed up one of the

sections

and lived there while he was attending the U of A.

I forget the name of the restaurant, but I was never interested

in eating

there. Just seemed too dirty to me. I remember them using paper

plates too,

but I think that was toward the end when they were maybe going

downhill. I

remember that they had a very loyal following.

DeGrazia left most of his fortune to the DeGrazia Foundation and

to an

illegitimate son. His other children didn't get much, the biggest

asset he

left them I believe was this property on Prince. Do you remember

when

DeGrazia protested the inheritance tax by burning 100 of his

paintings in

the Superstition Mountains?


*ldjscott1 <ldjscott1@...>* wrote:

From the later 60's I recall a small old shopping center on the

corner

of maybe Grant and Campbell or Ft. Lowell? Unfortunately, I don't

seem

to remember exactly which streets. It had a couple little art

shops and

a silversmith and a Mexican restaurant. Ted De Grazia had done

art work

all over the inside walls of the restaurant. Can anyone help me

with

the location or name? I think I remember hearing it was the oldest
shopping center in Tucson. Thanks.




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--- In vanishingtucson@..., "captures_lightning"
<mstoklos@...> wrote:

I remember the restaurant
but i think it was north of Glenn and south of beyond bread on the
east side where the gas station is now... De Grazia use to hold

court

there w/ his bottle of Chavas scotch.. they had holes w/ marbles in
all the doors and we could bring our beer and put it in their

refrig,

the old lady Rosa Rosita..? made a great deep fried cheese crisp,

so

puffy topped w/ cheese and vegs.. this was 1972 - late 70's then
they moved to the Price and Campbell location and was never the same

Michael
--- In vanishingtucson@..., "Lee ." <azlee1@> wrote:

Yeah, it was on the southeast corner of Prince and Campbell (gas

station

there now) The restaurant was Rosa's or something close to that.

I

ate there

once back in about 79 shortly after I moved out here.

--Lee

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:45 PM, <joebuck95@> wrote:

Hi,

It wasn't a mall but one of DeGazia's early studios like the

Gallery In

The Sun. It was on Prince & Campbell. I believe it was torn

down

long ago.

I was friends with one of his grandsons who fixed up one of the

sections

and lived there while he was attending the U of A.

I forget the name of the restaurant, but I was never interested

in eating

there. Just seemed too dirty to me. I remember them using paper

plates too,

but I think that was toward the end when they were maybe going

downhill. I

remember that they had a very loyal following.

DeGrazia left most of his fortune to the DeGrazia Foundation

and

to an

illegitimate son. His other children didn't get much, the

biggest

asset he

left them I believe was this property on Prince. Do you

remember

when

DeGrazia protested the inheritance tax by burning 100 of his

paintings in

the Superstition Mountains?


*ldjscott1 <ldjscott1@>* wrote:

From the later 60's I recall a small old shopping center on the

corner

of maybe Grant and Campbell or Ft. Lowell? Unfortunately, I

don't

seem

to remember exactly which streets. It had a couple little art

shops and

a silversmith and a Mexican restaurant. Ted De Grazia had done

art work

all over the inside walls of the restaurant. Can anyone help me

with

the location or name? I think I remember hearing it was the

oldest

shopping center in Tucson. Thanks.
Hi, I think it was called Cambell plaza, on Cambell and I

believe Glenn.

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This was on the southeast corner of Fort Lowell and Campbell. Some
of the buildings are still standing but where the resteraunt was is
now gone. Their cheese crisps were smokin' hot...big and bubbly with
lots of cheese, tomatoes, onions, etc. Was my favorite.

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "lrmwallen" <lrmwallen@...>
wrote:

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "captures_lightning"
<mstoklos@> wrote:

I remember the restaurant
but i think it was north of Glenn and south of beyond bread on

the

east side where the gas station is now... De Grazia use to hold

court

there w/ his bottle of Chavas scotch.. they had holes w/ marbles

in

all the doors and we could bring our beer and put it in their

refrig,

the old lady Rosa Rosita..? made a great deep fried cheese

crisp,

so

puffy topped w/ cheese and vegs.. this was 1972 - late 70's then
they moved to the Price and Campbell location and was never the

same

Michael
--- In vanishingtucson@..., "Lee ." <azlee1@> wrote:

Yeah, it was on the southeast corner of Prince and Campbell

(gas

station

there now) The restaurant was Rosa's or something close to

that.

I

ate there

once back in about 79 shortly after I moved out here.

--Lee

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:45 PM, <joebuck95@> wrote:

Hi,

It wasn't a mall but one of DeGazia's early studios like the

Gallery In

The Sun. It was on Prince & Campbell. I believe it was torn

down

long ago.

I was friends with one of his grandsons who fixed up one of

the

sections

and lived there while he was attending the U of A.

I forget the name of the restaurant, but I was never

interested

in eating

there. Just seemed too dirty to me. I remember them using

paper

plates too,

but I think that was toward the end when they were maybe

going

downhill. I

remember that they had a very loyal following.

DeGrazia left most of his fortune to the DeGrazia Foundation

and

to an

illegitimate son. His other children didn't get much, the

biggest

asset he

left them I believe was this property on Prince. Do you

remember

when

DeGrazia protested the inheritance tax by burning 100 of his

paintings in

the Superstition Mountains?


*ldjscott1 <ldjscott1@>* wrote:

From the later 60's I recall a small old shopping center on

the

corner

of maybe Grant and Campbell or Ft. Lowell? Unfortunately, I

don't

seem

to remember exactly which streets. It had a couple little art

shops and

a silversmith and a Mexican restaurant. Ted De Grazia had

done

art work

all over the inside walls of the restaurant. Can anyone help

me

with

the location or name? I think I remember hearing it was the

oldest

shopping center in Tucson. Thanks.
Hi, I think it was called Cambell plaza, on Cambell and I

believe Glenn.

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I do remember the De Grazia shops and restaurant. But
also years ago (late 60's to mid 80's) there was a
mexican restaurant on the corner of Mission/Drexel Rds
called El Poblano. In the small strip mall called
Mission Valley, there was John's Gun shop on the
southend and the restaurant in the middle, and a bar
that was called Mission Valley . Well, on the side of
the bar that faced Mission Road just before you come
to Drexel Rd, Ted de Grazia had painted huge, about 5
or 6 ft tall images of 3 little Indian girl Angels in
each section of the wall. They were there for maybe 8
to 10 years until the original owner of the place sold
the parcel to someone else. The new owner not being
very smart had the side walls painted over. When I
seen that, I nearly had a heart attack. How could
someone do that! Apparently, the original owner had
been a friend of Mr. de Grazia's for many years and it
was done as a favor but guess failed to let the new
owner, who must have been from out of state, and an
idiot, know what a treasure those original paintings
were. Many of us who lived in that area remember what
happened but I don't know if the deGrazia family knew
anything about the paintings or that they were
literally destroyed. I have often thought if someone
could do it, that maybe those walls could be restored
or taken apart and saved for Tucson's history
surrounding Ted de Grazia. Does anyone here remember
anything about this?
-Deb


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Hi,

Are you sure they were painted by Ted? It might have been done by his son Nick who used to create a lot of artwork in the style of his father. Anyway, it should have been saved.

Deb Rollins wrote:

I do remember the De Grazia shops and restaurant. But
also years ago (late 60's to mid 80's) there was a
mexican restaurant on the corner of Mission/Drexel Rds
called El Poblano. In the small strip mall called
Mission Valley, there was John's Gun shop on the
southend and the restaurant in the middle, and a bar
that was called Mission Valley . Well, on the side of
the bar that faced Mission Road just before you come
to Drexel Rd, Ted de Grazia had painted huge, about 5
or 6 ft tall images of 3 little Indian girl Angels in
each section of the wall. They were there for maybe 8
to 10 years until the original owner of the place sold
the parcel to someone else. The new owner not being
very smart had the side walls painted over. When I
seen that, I nearly had a heart attack. How could
someone do that! Apparently, the original owner had
been a friend of Mr. de Grazia's for many years and it
was done as a favor but guess failed to let the new
owner, who must have been from out of state, and an
idiot, know what a treasure those original paintings
were. Many of us who lived in that area remember what
happened but I don't know if the deGrazia family knew
anything about the paintings or that they were
literally destroyed. I have often thought if someone
could do it, that maybe those walls could be restored
or taken apart and saved for Tucson's history
surrounding Ted de Grazia. Does anyone here remember
anything about this?
-Deb


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Posted by: "joebuck95@..."
Wed Mar 5, 2008 6:00 pm (PST)
Hi,
Are you sure they were painted by Ted? It might have
been done by his son Nick who used to create a lot of
artwork in the style of his father. Anyway, it should
have been saved.
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I was told by oldtimers in the area it was done by Ted
himself sometime in the late 50's, early 60's when the
site was built and that was why some people were upset
when it covered over. I moved in the area in 1967 or
so but we use to go to the restaurant even before that
time. Also was told that Ted de Grazia use to go to
the San Xavier Mission sometimes and would stop in the
bar/restaurant and got to be friends with the owner.
So I can only say what I was told. I do know that his
son Nick also did artwork somewhat like his fathers.
You are right it should have been saved. It still is a
piece of historic art that should be enjoyed.
Deb


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