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"The Illegals" (street racing)...


 

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Back in the early 70's it was on Tanque Verde by Sabino Canyon Road. There were a lot of Deuce Coupes and 57 Chevy's and other fast cars. You would race?your own?car against whoever wanted to race theirs. ?Used to do drive thru's at the Jack in the Box there near the corner. A big hang out.
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In a message dated 8/10/2005 12:40:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, c2s0naz@... writes:

Hi Carlos,Used to be two airstrips,one out by Vail
close to the castle and another one on Prince by the
freeway.
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It takes all kinds of people to make up this world.....I am just one....Redde


 

Hi Everyone,

Bjay mentioned "the illegals", and I'm assuming she's talking about
the street racing that was supposedly very common back in the old days.

If there are any motorheads in the Group, could you please describe
what it was like? I've been told that they drag-raced out by the
airport (but which one?), and it was just like in that James Dean
movie. Any details would be appreciated.

Carlos


--- In vanishingtucson@..., Bjay <groups@b...> wrote:
Hi Everyone!

I'm a Tucson native (more or less, born in Nogales) and got to enjoy
Tucson growing up in the 70's and 80's. I was (and still am) a serious
drive-in patron - guilty of cramming people into the trunk - especially
at the Apache Drive-In, the De Anza., and the Tucson Drive-In (movies
were always interrupted by a rattling train). And yes, often, we'd
have
a bag of Pat's chili-dogs or from Shari's Drive-in (still around!)

I remember a Rodeo or Fiesta Drive-in, but I think they played Mexican
movies that were, ugh, raunchy. I couldn't go there.

I went to schools in the Amphi district until my freshman year in high
school then finished up high school at Sunnyside in 1986. At that time
Sunnyside was open, with big windows in the classrooms and lots of
trees
and grass. Recently I have found they have bricked in the windows,
cemented the grounds, and put up a huge prison-like fence.

My friends would go to the illegals (I was never allowed) or we would
just go to the "river" and party. Nowadays, I'd be too paranoid to do
that.

Me and my girlfriends used to drive out around the Desert Museum at
night, and go park in the desert and gab. Again, I'd be way to
paranoid
to do that.

Tucson has NEVER been a paradise, but times were certainly simpler and
not much to be afraid of. I think it's too bad my 4-year-old will
never
get to know THAT Tucson - just the one with too much traffic,
mass-produced homes, and awful senseless crime. Someone needs to start
a another group called Take Back Tucson!!

Nice to meet you guys!

--
Ciao!

Elizabeth "Bjay" Woolley
Editor, Diabetic Mommy Online Magazine


Bob Puariea
 

Hi Carlos,Used to be two airstrips,one out by Vail
close to the castle and another one on Prince by the
freeway.
--- mistercopacetic <mistercopacetic@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone,

Bjay mentioned "the illegals", and I'm assuming
she's talking about
the street racing that was supposedly very common
back in the old days.

If there are any motorheads in the Group, could you
please describe
what it was like? I've been told that they
drag-raced out by the
airport (but which one?), and it was just like in
that James Dean
movie. Any details would be appreciated.

Carlos


--- In vanishingtucson@..., Bjay
<groups@b...> wrote:
Hi Everyone!

I'm a Tucson native (more or less, born in
Nogales) and got to enjoy
Tucson growing up in the 70's and 80's. I was
(and still am) a serious
drive-in patron - guilty of cramming people into
the trunk - especially
at the Apache Drive-In, the De Anza., and the
Tucson Drive-In (movies
were always interrupted by a rattling train). And
yes, often, we'd
have
a bag of Pat's chili-dogs or from Shari's Drive-in
(still around!)

I remember a Rodeo or Fiesta Drive-in, but I think
they played Mexican
movies that were, ugh, raunchy. I couldn't go
there.

I went to schools in the Amphi district until my
freshman year in high
school then finished up high school at Sunnyside
in 1986. At that time
Sunnyside was open, with big windows in the
classrooms and lots of
trees
and grass. Recently I have found they have
bricked in the windows,
cemented the grounds, and put up a huge
prison-like fence.

My friends would go to the illegals (I was never
allowed) or we would
just go to the "river" and party. Nowadays, I'd
be too paranoid to do
that.

Me and my girlfriends used to drive out around the
Desert Museum at
night, and go park in the desert and gab. Again,
I'd be way to
paranoid
to do that.

Tucson has NEVER been a paradise, but times were
certainly simpler and
not much to be afraid of. I think it's too bad my
4-year-old will
never
get to know THAT Tucson - just the one with too
much traffic,
mass-produced homes, and awful senseless crime.
Someone needs to start
a another group called Take Back Tucson!!

Nice to meet you guys!

--
Ciao!

Elizabeth "Bjay" Woolley
Editor, Diabetic Mommy Online Magazine



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Bjay
 

When I was in high school, in the 80's, the illegals were "the end of Speedway" to the east and south of town, around Wilmot and the prison.

Bjay

cynder32az@... wrote:

Back in the early 70's it was on Tanque Verde by Sabino Canyon Road. There were a lot of Deuce Coupes and 57 Chevy's and other fast cars. You would race your own car against whoever wanted to race theirs. Used to do drive thru's at the Jack in the Box there near the corner. A big hang out.
In a message dated 8/10/2005 12:40:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, c2s0naz@... writes:


Hi Carlos,Used to be two airstrips,one out by Vail
close to the castle and another one on Prince by the
freeway.

It takes all kinds of people to make up this world.....I am just one....Redde

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Ciao!

Elizabeth "Bjay" Woolley
Editor, Diabetic Mommy Online Magazine


lannie hartman
 

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I'm dating myself, but the illegals I attended in the 1950s were held on the Mt. Lemmon highway, just at the base of the mountain...........the starting line faced south. That was so we could see the cops coming and everyone would scatter into the desert.
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A legal strip was started on Davis Monthan Air Force Base in the late 50s and early 60s.......an unused runway was "donated" to the drags.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [vanishingtucson] "The Illegals" (street racing)...


Hi Carlos,Used to be two airstrips,one out by Vail
close to the castle and another one on Prince by the
freeway.
--- mistercopacetic <mistercopacetic@...> wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Bjay mentioned "the illegals", and I'm assuming
> she's talking about
> the street racing that was supposedly very common
> back in the old days.?
>
> If there are any motorheads in the Group, could you
> please describe
> what it was like?? I've been told that they
> drag-raced out by the
> airport (but which one?), and it was just like in
> that James Dean
> movie.? Any details would be appreciated.
>
> Carlos
>
>
>? --- In vanishingtucson@..., Bjay
> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone!
> >
> > I'm a Tucson native (more or less, born in
> Nogales) and got to enjoy
> > Tucson growing up in the 70's and 80's.? I was
> (and still am) a serious
> > drive-in patron - guilty of cramming people into
> the trunk - especially
> > at the Apache Drive-In, the De Anza., and the
> Tucson Drive-In (movies
> > were always interrupted by a rattling train).? And
> yes, often, we'd
> have
> > a bag of Pat's chili-dogs or from Shari's Drive-in
> (still around!)
> >
> > I remember a Rodeo or Fiesta Drive-in, but I think
> they played Mexican
> > movies that were, ugh, raunchy.? I couldn't go
> there.
> >
> > I went to schools in the Amphi district until my
> freshman year in high
> > school then finished up high school at Sunnyside
> in 1986.? At that time
> > Sunnyside was open, with big windows in the
> classrooms and lots of
> trees
> > and grass.? Recently I have found they have
> bricked in the windows,
> > cemented the grounds, and put up a huge
> prison-like fence.
> >
> > My friends would go to the illegals (I was never
> allowed) or we would
> > just go to the "river" and party.? Nowadays, I'd
> be too paranoid to do
> > that.
> >
> > Me and my girlfriends used to drive out around the
> Desert Museum at
> > night, and go park in the desert and gab.? Again,
> I'd be way to
> paranoid
> > to do that.
> >
> > Tucson has NEVER been a paradise, but times were
> certainly simpler and
> > not much to be afraid of.? I think it's too bad my
> 4-year-old will
> never
> > get to know THAT Tucson - just the one with too
> much traffic,
> > mass-produced homes, and awful senseless crime.
> Someone needs to start
> > a another group called Take Back Tucson!!
> >
> > Nice to meet you guys!
> >
> > --
> > Ciao!
> >
> > Elizabeth "Bjay" Woolley
> > Editor, Diabetic Mommy Online Magazine
> >
>
>
>
>


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Hi - Well, I grew up with the street racing scene in Tucson also! It
was mid 70's, I had just graduated from Catalina HS and bought myself a
hot '68 Camaro, red, white vinyl top, red interior. Truth be told I
bought it from a little, old school teacher who only drove it to school.
I raced Speedway most every weekend, and that was about the time that
they had finished it out past Wilmot with 3 lanes both directions which
was a perfect place to race! Smooth wide road! I can remember there
were groups of people with "like" cars who would park along Speedway at
the closed business' parking lots and talk cars......'55, '56', '57
Chevys, '67, '68, '68 Camaros, etc. As a matter of fact, several
months ago I saw a picture in the Time Capsule section of the newspaper
of cruisers on Speedway and I swear it's my car in the center lane!

Shelby


--- In vanishingtucson@..., cynder32az@... wrote:



Back in the early 70's it was on Tanque Verde by Sabino Canyon Road.
There
were a lot of Deuce Coupes and 57 Chevy's and other fast cars. You
would race
your own car against whoever wanted to race theirs. Used to do drive
thru's
at the Jack in the Box there near the corner. A big hang out.

In a message dated 8/10/2005 12:40:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
c2s0naz@... writes:


Hi Carlos,Used to be two airstrips,one out by Vail
close to the castle and another one on Prince by the
freeway.





It takes all kinds of people to make up this world.....I am just
one....Redde


 

Hi - Well, I grew up with the street racing scene in Tucson also! It
was mid 70's, I had just graduated from Catalina HS and bought myself a
hot '68 Camaro, red, white vinyl top, red interior. Truth be told I
bought it from a little, old school teacher who only drove it to school.
I raced Speedway most every weekend, and that was about the time that
they had finished it out past Wilmot with 3 lanes both directions which
was a perfect place to race! Smooth wide road! I can remember there
were groups of people with "like" cars who would park along Speedway at
the closed business' parking lots and talk cars......'55, '56', '57
Chevys, '67, '68, '68 Camaros, etc. As a matter of fact, several
months ago I saw a picture in the Time Capsule section of the newspaper
of cruisers on Speedway and I swear it's my car in the center lane!

Shelby


--- In vanishingtucson@..., cynder32az@... wrote:



Back in the early 70's it was on Tanque Verde by Sabino Canyon Road.
There
were a lot of Deuce Coupes and 57 Chevy's and other fast cars. You
would race
your own car against whoever wanted to race theirs. Used to do drive
thru's
at the Jack in the Box there near the corner. A big hang out.

In a message dated 8/10/2005 12:40:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
c2s0naz@... writes:


Hi Carlos,Used to be two airstrips,one out by Vail
close to the castle and another one on Prince by the
freeway.





It takes all kinds of people to make up this world.....I am just
one....Redde


lanniemalaha
 

When I was running wild with a hot rod heart in the late 1950s,and
early 60s.
The illegals were held on the Mt Lemmon Highway right at the base of
the mountains.
Strip faced south, of course because we could see for MILES that a
car was coming. Everyone stood still, sat in their cars waiting for
the oncoming vehicle to get close enough to tell if it was another
racer or Pima County Sheriff's Department.
If it was the cops, everyone would scatter through the surrounding
desert and the cops went crazy trying to catch even one car.
Eventually they got smart and came with lots of backup......and no
one dared tried to run.
Yep.........I got caught driving my 1927 T roadster........but only
got a warning.....................likely 'cause I was a girl.

Later, someone got us permission to use part of a runway on DMAFB so
we all wouldn't kill ourselves on the highway.
But when the strip on DMAFB wasn't open, then we would go out to
Houghton Road and race illegally then.............deserted in those
years.
This is way many years the legal strip opened on Houghton just east
of the road......
Anyone out there remember dragging the Mt Lemmon Highway ?
Come on......date yourself ! I did !

Lannie







--- In vanishingtucson@..., "breckzone"
<patandshelby@...> wrote:




Hi - Well, I grew up with the street racing scene in Tucson also!
It
was mid 70's, I had just graduated from Catalina HS and bought
myself a
hot '68 Camaro, red, white vinyl top, red interior. Truth be told I
bought it from a little, old school teacher who only drove it to
school.
I raced Speedway most every weekend, and that was about the time
that
they had finished it out past Wilmot with 3 lanes both directions
which
was a perfect place to race! Smooth wide road! I can remember there
were groups of people with "like" cars who would park along
Speedway at
the closed business' parking lots and talk cars......'55, '56', '57
Chevys, '67, '68, '68 Camaros, etc. As a matter of fact, several
months ago I saw a picture in the Time Capsule section of the
newspaper
of cruisers on Speedway and I swear it's my car in the center lane!

Shelby


--- In vanishingtucson@..., cynder32az@ wrote:



Back in the early 70's it was on Tanque Verde by Sabino Canyon
Road.
There
were a lot of Deuce Coupes and 57 Chevy's and other fast cars. You
would race
your own car against whoever wanted to race theirs. Used to do
drive
thru's
at the Jack in the Box there near the corner. A big hang out.

In a message dated 8/10/2005 12:40:31 P.M. US Mountain Standard
Time,
c2s0naz@ writes:


Hi Carlos,Used to be two airstrips,one out by Vail
close to the castle and another one on Prince by the
freeway.





It takes all kinds of people to make up this world.....I am just
one....Redde


George Cohn
 

lanniemalaha wrote:
When I was running wild with a hot rod heart in the late 1950s,and
early 60s.
The illegals were held on the Mt Lemmon Highway right at the base of
the mountains.
Strip faced south, of course because we could see for MILES that a
car was coming. Everyone stood still, sat in their cars waiting for
the oncoming vehicle to get close enough to tell if it was another
racer or Pima County Sheriff's Department.
Back in the late '60's, I had a '64 Jaguar XK-E roadster. A couple of friends had XK-E Coupes. Nearly every Saturday night we would drag race each other on that stretch of the Catalina highway at some point in time.

We never got caught and the top speed was only around 145 MPH but at three abreast on a two lane, it was exciting (and dangerous and stupid).

Thankfully we all matured and survived the period.

Someone mentioned Johnnies on Craycroft at Speedway. One night a couple of guys unloaded a fuelie dragster off the trailer at Johnnies and ran it to Swan. By the time the cops showed up, they were long gone and nobody knew anything! ;-)

And yes, Johnnies and KTKT was our Mel's Drive-in and soundtrack as someone else mentioned.

George Cohn


 

I also remember hanging out at the Johnie's near 22nd
and Alvernon. Does anyone also remember when the jet
crashed at a Lucky's market near Alvernon and 29th?
We had just left the bowling alley a few stores down
from the market 15 or so minutes earlier. I wanted to
go into Lucky's to pick up some things but my friend
and I decided to stop at the one at Southgate Shopping
Center on South 6th Avenue on the way home instead.
When we heard the KCUB radio announcement in the car
later on about the crash we looked at eachother with
our mouths opened!! Truly a sad time in Tucson that
day....
-Deb R.



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