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Re: World Motors ad....
Hello Jeff,
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I'm still looking at World Motors ads, and made it from the VW days of the 1950's and 60's up to the first Datsun ad of 1965. This ad shows all the Datsun models, plus a little shot of the building. Click "next" to see a Photoshopped image of the building. I'll post again when I get to the "exotics". Look here¡ Thanks, Carlos PS. Wilma posted a link to the Citizen archives. If you find a better ad before me, please let us know. --- In vanishingtucson@..., jgambleart@... wrote:
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Re: Paulin Motors electric sign.
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Thanks to Alex for the vivid memories of Paulin Motors and their Caddies, and even some Old Time Radio! I haven't found the article you mentioned, but I'm still looking. Wilma just posted a link to view the Citizen archive, but I use my Ancestry subscription. Meanwhile, I found the interior showroom shot that clearly shows the "Gina Lollobrigida" bullets. Hahaha. You can view the other images like a slide show by clicking "next". There are exterior views of 2121 E. Broadway, and a Citizen article (not the one you mentioned). The sign is not visible in the images. Maybe added later? Start here¡ Also huge thanks to "jlwcr11" for the photo of the sign! We need to give full credit to the source, and I'd like to authenticate it, since we can't see the building in the background. I'm also wondering if the sign was saved by a private collector, because it was missing long before the building was demolished. With the new Historic Landmark Sign ordinance, it could be re-installed elsewhere and rotate proudly once again. Thanks, Carlos --- In vanishingtucson@..., "Cook, Alexander G - (agcook)" <agcook@...> wrote:
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Re: Titan 2 in Tucson
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Just wanted to clear up something for people who might reference this page in the future...
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The USAF bomb group stationed at Davis-Monthan AFB in the late 1950s-early 1960s did NOT fly B-52 aircraft. The 303rd Bomb Group was equipped with Boeing B-47 Stratofortress bombers. The fighter escort aircraft at that time were McDonnell F-101 Voodoos, rather noisy birds, as were the B47s. As if the 18 Titan silos weren't targets enough...we also had the Boneyard at DM, Hughes Aircraft, and right in the middle of town at the U of A, was a small nuclear reactor. ALL of the above made Tucson a likely target for first-wave, and any follow-up attacks, by the Soviet Union. I don't think digging a backyard bob shelter would have made any difference, beyond the first 10-20 seconds after the prime targets were vaporized. John Holden - In vanishingtucson@..., "davidjohnrobson" <DavidJohnRobson@...> wrote:
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Re: Titan 2 in Tucson
My story was a little more direct. Back in the mid 70's I was a Cadet in AFROTC at the U of A. One year, we were given the opportunity to receive a briefing from the Commander of the 390th Strategic Missle Wing about their mission.
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We were bussed to DM's theater after providing our 'Pertinents' (Name, Age, SSAN, etc) and while we waited, some of the cadets were "asked to leave" by the Air Police (apparently they were deemed a security threat). The Brief lasted about 45 mins and then we boarded yet another bus and we were taken to one of two active silos. We were shown the whole complex, including the very much loaded and fueled Titan. Great fun until the crew received an EWO (Emergency War Order - essentially an alert to begin preparations for launch) Half the group were sent to the sleeping area, the other half (mine...) were placed between Blast Door #1 and #2. If they had launched - we'd probably been cooked. --- In vanishingtucson@..., "Sean" <oper_12m_sean@...> wrote:
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Re: Titan 2 in Tucson
I remember a Committee Against Ringing Tucson with Titans (CARTT) that tried to argue against putting the silos all around the city (which made us the center of the bullseye and also subject to fallout no matter what direction the wind was blowing). I also remember talk about how high we were on the list of Soviet ICBM targets for a sleepy little desert town. But the counter argument was that we would have been almost as high because of the B-52s at Davis Monthan. (This reminds me of the roar you would hear whenever the B-52s came back from patrolling off Alaska.)
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Re: Titan 2 in Tucson
Carlos. Thanks for that story, second hand or not it is a good one.
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Some of the best stories come from the transport/propellant truck drivers. Fortunately for Tucson and all of us we never had that war with Russia, if we had not much of Tucson would have been left if any. Sean --- In vanishingtucson@..., "MisterCopacetic" <mistercopacetic@...> wrote:
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Quonset huts revisited
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I'm not sure if anyone mentioned a Quonset on Park, just north of Grant Rd, in the last year or so. This one is located behind a business about half a block north of Grant..on the east side of the roadway.
There is a block building that fronts on Park, but if you look behind the now-closed business...BINGO. I'd like to say the address is 2460 N Park..but it has been a couple months since I laid eyes on that neighborhood. John |
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Re: Titan 2 in Tucson
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Good question about an interesting aspect of Tucson history. Sorry, but my only story is second-hand, from a retired Airman who drove the truck transporting one of the missiles to it's silo. He described how the truck moved incredibly slowly along the temporarily closed highway. He said he was issued a shotgun with heavy slug ammo. His instructions, if attacked, was to use the shotgun not to defend himself or the missile, but to disable the vehicle with rounds through the radiator and/or engine block. A native Tucsonan recently remarked how, at the time, most Tucsonans were unaware that the installation of the Titan II missiles around Tucson instantly boosted the Old Pueblo into the top 10 targets for nuclear obliteration in the event of war with the Soviet Union. This was at a time when Tucson was a relatively small town, where many residents still left their doors open, and cars unlocked. I know I did, up through the mid 1980's. Thanks, Carlos --- In vanishingtucson@..., "Sean" wrote:
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Re: Digest Number 1520
I found a photo on another group.
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From: "vanishingtucson@..." <vanishingtucson@...> To: vanishingtucson@... Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 6:03 PM Subject: [vanishingtucson] Digest Number 1520 There is 1 message in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1a. Re: Paulin Motors electric sign.? ? ? ? From: Cook, Alexander G - (agcook) Message ________________________________________________________________________ 1a. Re: Paulin Motors electric sign. ? ? Posted by: "Cook, Alexander G - (agcook)" agcook@... cook2son ? ? Date: Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:51 am ((PST)) Carlos, I remember a column in the Citizen, many moons ago - perhaps by Don Schellie, that discussed the Paulin Motors sign.? I think it was a flat kind of amoeba/pond shape containing the Paulin name but it had a vertical extension with a Sputnik/satellite shaped object on the tippy-top.? The satellite was all outlined in neon and was animated.? Imagine the sphere of the satellite, bristling with neon outlined spikes (3-d, not flat). Slice the sphere in half vertically.? Now (here is where my memory is a bit hazy), have one half rotate in one direction and the other half rotate in the opposite direction and then have the whole kit and caboodle rotate on the sphere's vertical axis.? The animation aspect was what the column was about.? Apparently the satellite portion of the sign was created locally from a WWII vintage Jeep trans-axle that somebody scrounged from a garage down in Nogales, and the writer was speculating how many miles that axle had been rotating, night and day, day-in, day-out, for lo those many years it was perched atop the Paulin sign.? It was a sign my family saw many times. When my Dad retired from the Army at Ft. Huachuca in 1957, his "graduation" gift to himself was a brand, new 1957 4-door sedan (a Fleetwood?).? It had a white roof and a creme-yellow body.? It had those rubber tipped Gina Lollabrigitta bullets extending from the front bumper and the gas cap was hidden underneath one of the rear tail light assemblies.? You had to depress the red reflector disk in the rear lamp to unlatch it and allow the whole tail light (it had to have weighed several pounds as it was solid chrome) to swing up and out of the way.? The car had air conditioning WITHOUT those plastic tubes that used to be placed in the back deck of the back window.? The doors weighed half a ton, easily.? I still bear the scar on my index finger from when my younger brother slammed the rear door while I was still getting out.? All the dash fittings were metal, even the vents for the a/c.? Very little plastic at all.? I also remember the BIG discussion my Mom had with my Dad when he announced he was getting a Cadillac because it cost around $5,200 which was a full year's salary for him when he retired as a Lt. Col.? I guess after WWII and Korea, he was ready to partake of a little of the American Dream.? He bought it from Paulin's and religiously took it there to be serviced. It had twin fins on the front hood that projected up about 6 inches and mayber 4 inches apart.? These instantly turned the Caddy into an F-100 Super Sabre jet.? While driving home to Sierra Vista after an all day shopping trip to Tucson, I would claim the middle of the huge front bench seat, between my Dad and my Mom.? As cars passed us or we passed them, I would line them up in my "sights" and give them a burst of 20mm cannon fire and send those "MiGs" into a flaming death spiral. On those night drives home my Dad would tune in the same strong signal every time.? It was an NBC station from somewhere out in the ether and I think the show was "Monitor".? Gene Rayburn was one of the regular hosts but I remember segments with the acerbic, but very funny, Henry Morgan.? It also played old radio programs like "Duffy's Tavern", "Fibber McGee & Molly", and maybe "Amos & Andy".? I can still remember sitting in the dark in the back seat, smelling the grocery bag of bollilos we got in Nogales and hearing "Hello. Duffy's Tavern, where the elite meet to eat.? Archie the manager speakin'.? Duffy's not here...Oh, Hello Duffy."? I love radio. I hope you are able to score a photo of the sign.? If I knew how to search the Citizen articles (if they are available to the public), I'd try to find that article for you.? Surely some old ads in the papers had to have at least a drawing of the sign. Alex Cook Southern Arizona since 1954 Messages in this topic (3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |
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Re: Paulin Motors electric sign.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýCarlos, I remember a column in the Citizen, many moons ago - perhaps by Don Schellie, that discussed the Paulin Motors sign.? I think it?was a flat kind of amoeba/pond shape containing the Paulin name but it had a vertical extension with a?Sputnik/satellite shaped object on the tippy-top.??The satellite?was all outlined in neon and was animated.? Imagine the sphere of the satellite, bristling with neon outlined spikes (3-d, not flat). Slice the sphere in half vertically.? Now (here is where my memory is a bit hazy), have one half rotate in one direction and the?other half rotate in the opposite direction and then have the whole kit and caboodle rotate on the sphere's vertical?axis.??The animation aspect was what the column was about.? Apparently the satellite portion of the sign was created locally from a WWII vintage Jeep trans-axle that somebody scrounged from a garage down in Nogales, and the writer was speculating how many miles that axle had been rotating, night and day, day-in, day-out, for lo those many years it was perched atop the Paulin sign.? It was a sign my family saw many times. ? When my Dad retired from the Army at Ft. Huachuca in 1957, his "graduation" gift to himself was a brand, new 1957 4-door sedan (a Fleetwood?).? It had a white roof and a creme-yellow body.?? It had those rubber tipped Gina Lollabrigitta bullets extending from the front bumper and the gas cap was hidden underneath one of the rear tail light assemblies.? You had to depress the red reflector disk in the rear lamp to unlatch it and allow the whole tail light (it had to have weighed several pounds as it was solid chrome) to swing up and out of the way.? The car had air conditioning WITHOUT those plastic tubes that used to be placed in the back deck of the back window.? The doors weighed half a ton, easily.? I still bear the scar on my index finger from when my younger brother slammed the rear door while I was still getting out.? All the dash fittings were metal, even the vents for the a/c.? Very little plastic at all.? I also remember the BIG discussion my Mom had with my Dad when he announced he was getting a Cadillac because it cost around $5,200 which was a full year's salary for him when he retired as a Lt. Col.? I guess after WWII and Korea, he was ready to partake of a little of the American Dream.? He bought it from Paulin's and religiously took it there to be serviced. ? It had twin fins on the front hood that projected up about 6 inches and mayber 4 inches apart.? These instantly turned the Caddy into an F-100 Super Sabre jet. ?While driving home to Sierra Vista after an all day shopping trip to Tucson, I would claim the middle of the huge front bench seat, between my Dad and my Mom.? As cars passed us or we passed them, I would line them up in my "sights" and give them a burst of 20mm cannon fire and send those "MiGs" into a flaming death spiral. ? On those night drives home my Dad would tune in the same strong signal every time.? It was an NBC?station?from somewhere out in the ether and I think the show was "Monitor".? Gene Rayburn was one of the regular hosts but I remember segments with the acerbic, but very funny, Henry Morgan.? It also played old radio programs like "Duffy's Tavern", "Fibber McGee & Molly", and maybe "Amos & Andy".? I can still remember?sitting in the dark in the back seat, smelling the grocery bag of bollilos we got in Nogales and hearing "Hello.?Duffy's Tavern, where the elite meet to eat.? Archie the manager speakin'.? Duffy's not here...Oh, Hello Duffy."? I love radio. ? I hope you are able to score a photo of the sign.? If I knew how to search the Citizen articles (if they?are available to the public), I'd try to find that article for you.? Surely some old ads in the papers had to have at least a drawing of the sign.? ? Alex Cook Southern Arizona since 1954 |
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Re: Paulin Motors electric sign.
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Here's a shot of Paulin's showroom from 1958... I love the ultra-modern accents on the wall. The Paulin Motors sign was described to me as being "Sputnik" shaped, in the space-age style, right? To find a photo of it is one of my "holy grails", as I'm working on a book on Tucson neon signs. Another one I can't find is the Marylin Motel swimming girl sign that was once on Oracle. Another one is the neon cowgirl that was on the back of the screen of the Rodeo Drive In. I obviously hope that any member with photos of ANY vintage neon will post them, or contact me privately for scanning assistance. Did you know that a good, clear sign photo could be used to create an historical replica that doesn't have to conform to many contemporary Sign Code standards? This is a marvelous opportunity for a business to add to the historic charm of the community, and attract customers at the same time. Thanks, Carlos --- In vanishingtucson@..., "jlwcrl1" wrote:
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Tucson car dealership
Carlos;
Thanks for posting this dealership however, the dealer im interested in is World Motors on South Sixth Ave, that handled Volkswagen and Porsche cars starting in 1957. ?WM might have sold other makes as well. ?The same building is now occupied by Ideal Custom plating at 937 S. Sixth ave.
The car i am the current (since 1981) custodian of a 1960 Porsche Roadster model that was purchased from WM by?architect Jim Hockings who traded in a MG. ?Local Sports car?enthusiast/racer Tracy Bird underwrote his insurance policy.?
I would very much like to find an old ad and especially a licence plate frame from World Motors.
Thanks again Carlos.
Jeff
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sports cars of the 50's and 60's
Hello All,
Jeff asked if I had any images of the dealer where he bought his first sports car back in the 60's. I found an ad from World Wide Motors on Stone from 1952. Is this the right place? Regardless, Jeff, tell us what kind of car you had and what it was like to own a "foreign job" when Detroit was king? Must've been great on Roller Coaster Road or Catalina Highway in an age when American cars had lots of horsepower but poor breaks and handling. Were there clubs? The ad is posted in the Auto Dealer folder, but there's more car stuff in the Car Stuff folder, and in the Gas Station folder... Thanks, Carlos |
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Re: The Dead Shopping Center
The "dead" shopping center is Wilmot Plaza. It was built in the mid-50's to support the rapidly growing east side. I lived in the San Rafael subdivision to the north of the shopping center. In addition to the stores mentioned, there was a Firestone store, a Sprouse-Reitz, a supermarket (a Consumer's, I think) and a beauty shop in the odd corner between Sprouse-Reitz and Myerson's. We used to ride our bikes to Firestone to pump up our tires.
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This shopping center desperately needs a strong anchor store. Maybe CVS should move in there and leave the Mercado alone. --- In vanishingtucson@..., "Hungry in Vail" wrote:
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Re: Digest Number 1512
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