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Re: Douglas ranch/Princess Margret, Lord Snowden visit to Tucson

 

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "shockhits = ID" <shockhits@...> wrote:

Carlos, what is the significance of the "Douglas ranch"? Anyone know?


Hi, Lewis Douglas had been an ambassador to Great Britain from 1947 to 1950. (See below.) He became friends with the Royal Family. When the Princess and her husband visited Tucson in 1965 they touched base with Douglas.

The couple visited Old Tucson when Howard Hawks was directing Duke Wayne and Robert Mitchum in "El Dorado."

Snowdon was a world class photographer.

I worked as a reporter/photographer/editor for KVOA news in the late 1960's-early 1970's. I have an interview in my film collection of my interview with the ambassador.

Anyone who cares can see my photos all over the net. Just type in David Lee Guss in Google or Bing Images. My photos of movies shot at OT and my stills of the Tucson barrio are especially rare. I am working now on a massive essay on Wayne for Fine Art America, which hopefully will be up in a week. My recently completed essay on Johnny Cash is up and running there. David PS. Again, for those who are interested in seeing my published/biographic material/photo essays, I have an archive at the U of A Special Collections Library.

Ambassador to the Court of St. James
In February 1947, Douglas was appointed as the ambassador to the United Kingdom, after the untimely death of the previous appointee, O. Max Gardner. As ambassador, Douglas enjoyed an enhanced status, as the new Secretary of State, George Marshall, delegated considerable authority to his subordinates. Because of this, he played an important role in the passage and implementation of the Marshall Plan as it related to the United Kingdom, and was closely involved in coordinating the American and British response to the Berlin Blockade in 1948. In April 1949 he suffered an accident while fly fishing that damaged permanently his left eye and restricted his involvement in official matters while he underwent a slow and incomplete recovery. Because of the damage done to his eye, Douglas wore an eyepatch over it for the rest of his life.[14]

[edit]Final years

After resigning from the ambassadorship in 1950, Douglas returned to the United States and settled in Tucson, Arizona. He was the chairman and director of the Southern Arizona Bank and Trust Company from 1949 until 1966 and served on a number of boards and commissions, including the General Motors Corporation, the Council on Foreign Relations, the Government Study of Foreign Economic Problems, and the President's Task Force on American Indians. Though declining further suggestions to run for public office, he remained actively involved in state and national politics. While typically endorsing Republicans, he remained a Democrat and supported Lyndon B. Johnson over Barry Goldwater in the 1964 presidential election out of concerns for Goldwater's suitability for the presidency. Douglas died in Tucson, Arizona on March 7, 1974 from complications following surgery to remove an intestinal obstruction. His remains were later cremated and his ashes scattered over the hills of Jerome.[15]

[edit]


Re: bus stations, etc.

 

Hello All,

Thanks to "N7IQV" for the Trailways info.

For the newcomers, we have UNAIRED Fugitive footage of Tucson at our Youtube page, here...



The opening sequence that "N7IQV" refers to goes by so fast that we broke it down into stills instead of posting a video clip, here...



Some other Fugitive filming locations in this folder...



Tucson paranormal historian Rebecca "Ghost Girl" Hayes was an extra in that episode. I'm trying to persuade her to give us another walking tour for Halloween. Speaking of paranormal stuff, Michelle, you're right about Eric photographing a future version of himself 40 years ago. Spooky!

Thanks,

Carlos

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "N7IQV" <n7iqv@...> wrote:

The bus station was the depot for Continental Trailways. Greyhound was down at Church between Broadway and Congress (where Pancho Villa's statue now sits..) Find the opening 30 seconds of the first "Fugitive" TV series episode, you'll see the Greyhound station, and a lot more of 1963 Tucson, in that show.

--- In vanishingtucson@..., catherine westergaard <cfw61@> wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion, James, regarding posting the menus!? I will get in touch with Carlos to see if he can scan them.? Thanks also to the person who gave me the name Transamerica building!? For some reason I thought it was up on a higher floor.

Regarding the restaurants, Mr. Rallis told me that he also had a lunch-type counter in the old bus station that was where the post office is now on S 6th Avenue, between the old Odd Fellows building (restaurant and gallery now) and the "diving girl" (hotel turned lawyers office).? Not sure what bus station it was, but I believe the red brick partial walls on both edges of the post office property (they butt up against Odd Fellows and the hotel) might be from the building.? Does anyone know what bus that was?? I'll have to do some more research on when the building came down to see if the wall remnants are from it.? They look pretty old!? Go take a look next time you're down there.? Not sure why they were left up, but glad they are!

While you're in that neighborhood, go check out the old ghost sign on the building behind Odd Fellows, used to be the plumbing supply place.? It was recently renovated but thankfully they left the ghost sign.? I know a lot of folks are aware of it, but if you're not, go do some "trolling"!

Catherine


Re: Restuarant downtown and the menus

N7IQV
 

The bus station was the depot for Continental Trailways. Greyhound was down at Church between Broadway and Congress (where Pancho Villa's statue now sits..) Find the opening 30 seconds of the first "Fugitive" TV series episode, you'll see the Greyhound station, and a lot more of 1963 Tucson, in that show.

--- In vanishingtucson@..., catherine westergaard <cfw61@...> wrote:

Thanks for the suggestion, James, regarding posting the menus!? I will get in touch with Carlos to see if he can scan them.? Thanks also to the person who gave me the name Transamerica building!? For some reason I thought it was up on a higher floor.

Regarding the restaurants, Mr. Rallis told me that he also had a lunch-type counter in the old bus station that was where the post office is now on S 6th Avenue, between the old Odd Fellows building (restaurant and gallery now) and the "diving girl" (hotel turned lawyers office).? Not sure what bus station it was, but I believe the red brick partial walls on both edges of the post office property (they butt up against Odd Fellows and the hotel) might be from the building.? Does anyone know what bus that was?? I'll have to do some more research on when the building came down to see if the wall remnants are from it.? They look pretty old!? Go take a look next time you're down there.? Not sure why they were left up, but glad they are!

While you're in that neighborhood, go check out the old ghost sign on the building behind Odd Fellows, used to be the plumbing supply place.? It was recently renovated but thankfully they left the ghost sign.? I know a lot of folks are aware of it, but if you're not, go do some "trolling"!

Catherine


Re: Restuarant downtown and the menus

 

Thanks for the suggestion, James, regarding posting the menus!? I will get in touch with Carlos to see if he can scan them.? Thanks also to the person who gave me the name Transamerica building!? For some reason I thought it was up on a higher floor.

Regarding the restaurants, Mr. Rallis told me that he also had a lunch-type counter in the old bus station that was where the post office is now on S 6th Avenue, between the old Odd Fellows building (restaurant and gallery now) and the "diving girl" (hotel turned lawyers office).? Not sure what bus station it was, but I believe the red brick partial walls on both edges of the post office property (they butt up against Odd Fellows and the hotel) might be from the building.? Does anyone know what bus that was?? I'll have to do some more research on when the building came down to see if the wall remnants are from it.? They look pretty old!? Go take a look next time you're down there.? Not sure why they were left up, but glad they are!

While you're in that neighborhood, go check out the old ghost sign on the building behind Odd Fellows, used to be the plumbing supply place.? It was recently renovated but thankfully they left the ghost sign.? I know a lot of folks are aware of it, but if you're not, go do some "trolling"!

Catherine


Re%3A%20The%20Grill%20on%20Congress

linda hoffman
 

Wasn't Rallis Judge Thomas Rallis?


Re: The Grill on Congress

 

Mr. Rallis had a small restaurant in the basement of the Transamerica Building. I ate there several times in the '80's. I believe he was a justice of the peace. I can't remember his first name.

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "cath61" <cfw61@...> wrote:

Several years ago I did an interview with the gentleman who owned the Grill for several years. Mr. Rallis had it from the early 50's or so. It was called the Stag Grill for awhile (anyone who has been in the restaurant and seen the paintings will understand why). He had to change the name to the Rallis Grill when a Catholic priest complained thinking it was a men's stag club, lol! Anyhow, one of the first restaurants there was called the Minerva, it goes back I think until the 1920's. He gave me an old zeroxed copy of one of their menu's, along with a couple of his menu's from 2 of his other locations, the restaurant in the Flamingo on Stone, and the other from a lunch place he had in a larger building downtown - I think his son ran that one. I was asked to write up a story about it, but have gotten side-tracked with other research, but I bring it up because I thought I'd make some copies of what I have and thought we should put them somewhere, perhaps the Historical Society? If anyone has any ideas, let me know.

There's a funny story about a shooting that took place in there (I found the newspaper clipping) that was after Mr. Rallis owned it. No one got really hurt, which is why it can be considered somewhat humorous.

Catherine

Does anyone know what they're going to do about the building? Will look awfully weird if they take it completely down. Wig-o-rama will have no neighbor on the block.


Restuarant downtown and the menus

 

How about posting the menus so we can look them over? That would be very interesting.


Douglas ranch/Princess Margret, Lord Snowden visit to Tucson

 

Carlos, what is the significance of the "Douglas ranch"? Anyone know?


Re: Armory Park, 1969

 

Wow! I love that he dug that up, guy front left kinda looks like current day Kroll...

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "MisterCopacetic" <mistercopacetic@...> wrote:

Hello All,

Thanks to Catherine for settling the Washington Park / Armory Park question.

Back in 1969, a now-famous photographer named Eric Kroll passed through Tucson on a cross-country Greyhound trip. During the brief stop at our downtown terminal, he walked around and took some photos. Eric recently asked me to identify this long-forgotten photograph. I was able to confirm that it was Armory Park facing northwest. It's a great photo, and Eric said I could share it with the group (all rights reserved)¡­



Thanks,

Carlos


--- In vanishingtucson@..., catherine westergaard <cfw61@> wrote:



Under the photo it states that Armory Park was originally Washington Park, it changed names to Armory Park in 1914 after the construction of the Armory.

This should answer the question.

Catherine


The Grill on Congress

 

Several years ago I did an interview with the gentleman who owned the Grill for several years. Mr. Rallis had it from the early 50's or so. It was called the Stag Grill for awhile (anyone who has been in the restaurant and seen the paintings will understand why). He had to change the name to the Rallis Grill when a Catholic priest complained thinking it was a men's stag club, lol! Anyhow, one of the first restaurants there was called the Minerva, it goes back I think until the 1920's. He gave me an old zeroxed copy of one of their menu's, along with a couple of his menu's from 2 of his other locations, the restaurant in the Flamingo on Stone, and the other from a lunch place he had in a larger building downtown - I think his son ran that one. I was asked to write up a story about it, but have gotten side-tracked with other research, but I bring it up because I thought I'd make some copies of what I have and thought we should put them somewhere, perhaps the Historical Society? If anyone has any ideas, let me know.

There's a funny story about a shooting that took place in there (I found the newspaper clipping) that was after Mr. Rallis owned it. No one got really hurt, which is why it can be considered somewhat humorous.

Catherine

Does anyone know what they're going to do about the building? Will look awfully weird if they take it completely down. Wig-o-rama will have no neighbor on the block.


Re: Arizona Postcards

 

Glad the information was interesting!? I've done a lot of research on downtown and 4th avenue but didn't know the park had a different name either.? Always something new to learn!? Love the group, always makes me think!

Catherine


Re: Armory Park, 1969

 

That is why I like this group...Always something to learn despite being a native.
Thank you Catherine.
mark

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "MisterCopacetic" <mistercopacetic@...> wrote:

Hello All,

Thanks to Catherine for settling the Washington Park / Armory Park question.

Back in 1969, a now-famous photographer named Eric Kroll passed through Tucson on a cross-country Greyhound trip. During the brief stop at our downtown terminal, he walked around and took some photos. Eric recently asked me to identify this long-forgotten photograph. I was able to confirm that it was Armory Park facing northwest. It's a great photo, and Eric said I could share it with the group (all rights reserved)¡­



Thanks,

Carlos


--- In vanishingtucson@..., catherine westergaard <cfw61@> wrote:



Under the photo it states that Armory Park was originally Washington Park, it changed names to Armory Park in 1914 after the construction of the Armory.

This should answer the question.

Catherine


Re: Arizona Postcards

 

Thank you.


Armory Park, 1969

 

Hello All,

Thanks to Catherine for settling the Washington Park / Armory Park question.

Back in 1969, a now-famous photographer named Eric Kroll passed through Tucson on a cross-country Greyhound trip. During the brief stop at our downtown terminal, he walked around and took some photos. Eric recently asked me to identify this long-forgotten photograph. I was able to confirm that it was Armory Park facing northwest. It's a great photo, and Eric said I could share it with the group (all rights reserved)¡­



Thanks,

Carlos

--- In vanishingtucson@..., catherine westergaard <cfw61@...> wrote:



Under the photo it states that Armory Park was originally Washington Park, it changed names to Armory Park in 1914 after the construction of the Armory.

This should answer the question.

Catherine


Re: Arizona Postcards

 

http://www.downtowntucson.org/2012/10/experience-the-history-of-armory-park-neighborhood-with-home-tour/

Under the photo it states that Armory Park was originally Washington Park, it changed names to Armory Park in 1914 after the construction of the Armory.

This should answer the question.

Catherine


Re: Arizona Postcards

 

Googled Washington Park in Phoenix. None there either. Maybe it was Armory Park, although, I read that it was originally Military Park.

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "carter" <thyswow@...> wrote:

One of the postcards featured a bandstand in Washington Park. Where is that park?


Re: Arizona Postcards

 

I never heard of Washington park in Tucson...there are a few Phoenix are postcards in that deck...perhaps that is one of them.
Mark


Re: Arizona Postcards

 

From the book Greetings from Tucson, it appears that Washington Park was one of the first names for Armory Park.? Not sure about the bandstand though.? Hope this helps.? Check out the page in the book on Google.? its only a preview, but it brought up that particular page when I brought it up.

Hope this helps a little!

Catherien


Arizona Postcards

 

One of the postcards featured a bandstand in Washington Park. Where is that park?


Re: Postcard BONANZA

Peggy Price
 

Thank you, Mark! Wowee. What a treasure.
Peg