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Re: Drug Stores

 

Hi Deb,

I know that the store on Stone & University is closed and was vacant as of early 2006, and maybe the counter is still there in the store.

Do? you remember the Graduate that was about a block south of the store? It was a gay bar, and someone had spray painted "Love Your Fellow Man" across the side. They never took the graffiti down.

Deb Rollins wrote:
Posted by: "joebuck95@..."
Fri Mar 7, 2008 6:02 pm (PST)

Hi Deb,
You mentioned in another post that you worked at
Encanto Drug in 1970. I was 6 years old at the time.
It's likely that I went in while you worked there. My
dad used to take me there. Last time I went in there
was probably 1981-82. I wonder if the lunch counter is
still intact. -Steve Q.
-----------------------------------------------------
Steve- I am not even sure they are still in business,
so many changes in that part of town thru the years.
Big drugstore chains and Walmart etc have pretty much
snuffed out the family run corner pharmacies and not
many lunch counters left either.
-Deb



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The Lighthouse YMCA

Jim Buchanan
 

I was a member of a group called the "Indian Guides" in the mid 1950's
at the Lighthouse YMCA. It was a father/son group where we were given
names like "Big and Little Eagle Feather". No girls were allowed.
(after all it was held at the Young Men's Christian Association)

I also learned to shoot during one of the summer programs at the
Lighthouse using real 22 cal. rifles.

Let's see either one of these activities being allowed by the people
who run Tucson today. I doubt if even the name YMCA would be allowed

My father built a lot of the locker room racks and gates for the
swimming pool facility.

Jim Buchanan


Drug stores

tricksec65
 

I worked at "Swan Drug" which was on the 4700 block of east speedway
as a delivery boy in 1958. It was my second job and I drove a 1949
ford with a logo on the side. I once made an emergency delivery just
before closing to a hotel on the west side. It was pretty scary for a
16yo as it was for the wife of an infamous mob boss that just got out
of prison.


Re: Hello

 

Hi all. I'm new to this group having discovered it via
a newspaper article that I read a week or so ago. I
was born and raised in Tucson and have lived here all
my life except for the three years I was in the Marine
Corps. I have enjoyed seeing some of the pictures of
Tucson's past and a lot of the articles that have been
posted. I grew up in my grandparents house, built by
them in the barrio known as El Hoyo. Unfortunetley a
city program known as Urban Renewal forced my
grandparents to sell the house they had lived in since
the 20's.If you head west past the El Minuto Cafe, you
will drive over the site where my grandparents house
stood. It was just bad luck that their house was in
the last block of houses to be demolished. Someone
mentioned Arts Cooney Island hot dogs and burgers, Yes
I remember Arts, though not the rest of the name, and
I also remember Jakes and Kippys 7/$1.00 mega burgers
joint. I think Deb mentioned Pats chile dogs on the
southside.Well they still serve their delicious chile
dogs at Pats on Grande Ave. They are always packed.
Sorry Deb, I think they are better than that other
place? Anyway, good to hear from you all and I am
looking foward to future comments and pictures.
----------------------------------------------------
Armando- I too am new here and I enjoy reading all the
postings and referrals to other websites. We lived on
the southwest side of town for over 40 yrs and both
our sons graduated from Pueblo High School. The
openess and beauty led us to that part of town but its
changed too much with expansion and traffic problems
these days. My husband was a Marine, getting wounded
in Viet Nam and our sons both joined the Corps right
after graduating. The older one had to medically
discharge after 16 yrs due to some wounds he recieved
in Iraq a few years ago, he is fine and works a
federal job, the other son is in his 10th year of
service and is now at Camp Pendleton getting reading
for his second deployment in a few months. Its hard
worrying so much but we are very proud of our sons.
We pretty much stayed in our area of town except to go
mall shopping etc. We use to buy beef jerky at Sambo's
meat market on Grande, it was better than any package
brand. Tania's tortillas was and still is one of
favorites too. Most of the shops along 12th Ave from
Valencia to Ajo were also favorites of ours. We first
moved out there because of the wide open spaces and of
course I loved Midvale Farms back in the day. But that
has all changed so much but still we plan to move back
there soon. We have lived out of Arizona for the last
18 months but cannot wait to get back there. Guess you
would remember the old Rodeo Drive-In and the W.T.
Grants/Frys shopping center on Nogales Hwy and when
Lucky Wishbone was on the corner of 6th and Irvington,
is it still an old tire shop now? So many memories and
seeing some of those lovely homes on and around Grande
Ave being tore down saddens me. Oh, I did eat Pat's
chile dogs but that sauce kind of bothered my stomach
but my family still went there a lot.
Ah como pierdo los dias viejos buenos.....
-Deb




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Re: Drug Stores

 

Posted by: "joebuck95@..."
Fri Mar 7, 2008 6:02 pm (PST)

Hi Deb,
You mentioned in another post that you worked at
Encanto Drug in 1970. I was 6 years old at the time.
It's likely that I went in while you worked there. My
dad used to take me there. Last time I went in there
was probably 1981-82. I wonder if the lunch counter is
still intact. -Steve Q.
-----------------------------------------------------
Steve- I am not even sure they are still in business,
so many changes in that part of town thru the years.
Big drugstore chains and Walmart etc have pretty much
snuffed out the family run corner pharmacies and not
many lunch counters left either.
-Deb



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Re: Drug Stores - Rincon Market...

 

Posted by: mmtalley@...
Fri Mar 7, 2008 11:53 am (PST)
I really don't think the article was saying Rincon
Market was disappearing at all. It just said the
family that owns it sold it to their family friends.
It also said they were keeping all employees, I think
its staying -Melissa
------------------------------------------------------
You are right, I re-read the message and was really
glad to hear Rincon Market will stay put for awhile,
its been a landmark for so many years. I didn't live
that close to the store but would sometimes shop there
to see our family friend who worked there. I use to go
to Trader Joe's quite a bit on that side of town too.
I do hope that Shane keeps his job, I don't know what
else he's every done most of his life so far.
-Deb




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Slide on Alvernon

 

I remember the slide because of a broken tail bone I received there.
Some friends & I were pretty drunk on Country Club Malt Liquor & we
were trying to see who could get the most air on the last "jump". I
think I won, but I had back pain for months.


Lighthouse "Y"

Steve Q.
 

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone has memories to share of the Lighthouse Y
when it was on Dodge & 5th street?

I used to go there when I was little and remember the big house on the
property. I think it was where the people who donated the land used to
live. Some of the activities I remember participating in were archery,
target practice with BB guns (I was only about 7 at the time. no way
would that happen today)arts and crafts, and swimming lessons. At the
time they had an olympic size pool with a high dive at the deep end. I
actually got up the nerve to jump off it one time.

It was closed in the early '70s and torn down for the apartment
complex that is there now. I always thought that complex was one of
the UGLIEST ones in Tucson, and that's some pretty stiff competition.


Re: Hello

 

Hi,

My mother was born on Cushing street and grew up in El Hoyo. They lived at 218 El Paso street.

My maternal grandfather Margarito Garcia owned and operated Garden City Cleaners on Meyer street. I believe he came to Tucson from Mexico around 1909 and established the business around that time. It is still in existence as Garcia's Cleaners on 22nd & 5th ave. and is run by my cousins. My uncle Robert Garcia ran it for many years.

Steve Q.



Armando Campos wrote:
Hi all. I'm new to this group having discovered it via a newspaper article that I read a week or so ago. I was born and raised in Tucson and have lived here all my life except for the three years I was in the Marine Corps. I have enjoyed seeing some of the pictures of Tucson's past and a lot of the articles that have been posted. I grew up in my grandparents house, built by them in?the barrio known as El Hoyo. Unfortunetley a city program known as Urban Renewal forced my grandparents to sell the house they had lived in since the 20's.If you head west past the El Minuto Cafe, you will drive over the site where my grandparents house stood. It was just bad luck that their house was in the last block of houses to be demolished. Someone mentioned Arts Cooney Island hot dogs and burgers, Yes I?remember Arts, though not the rest of the name, and I also remember Jakes and Kippys 7/$1.00 mega burgers joint. I think Deb mentioned Pats chile dogs on the southside.Well they still serve their delicious chile dogs? at Pats on Grande Ave. They are always packed. Sorry Deb, I think they are better than that other place? Anyway, good to hear from you all and? I am looking foward to?future comments and pictures.


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Hello

Armando Campos
 

Hi all. I'm new to this group having discovered it via a newspaper article that I read a week or so ago. I was born and raised in Tucson and have lived here all my life except for the three years I was in the Marine Corps. I have enjoyed seeing some of the pictures of Tucson's past and a lot of the articles that have been posted. I grew up in my grandparents house, built by them in?the barrio known as El Hoyo. Unfortunetley a city program known as Urban Renewal forced my grandparents to sell the house they had lived in since the 20's.If you head west past the El Minuto Cafe, you will drive over the site where my grandparents house stood. It was just bad luck that their house was in the last block of houses to be demolished. Someone mentioned Arts Cooney Island hot dogs and burgers, Yes I?remember Arts, though not the rest of the name, and I also remember Jakes and Kippys 7/$1.00 mega burgers joint. I think Deb mentioned Pats chile dogs on the southside.Well they still serve their delicious chile dogs? at Pats on Grande Ave. They are always packed. Sorry Deb, I think they are better than that other place? Anyway, good to hear from you all and? I am looking foward to?future comments and pictures.


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Slide on Alvernon

 

Who remembers the giant slide on Alvernon next to the Cactus Bowl.
There is a gas station there now. For a dime we slid down on a gunny
sack. It was great fun. Sometimes we got to going so fast by the last
drop we were airborne and got some bumps and bruises. This was
about '65 or '66.

BP


Re: Cruising Speedway & Pied Piper of Tucson

 

Hi Deb & all,

I posted the rest of the scans from the Pied Piper of Tucson article in the March 4, 1966 issue of Life magazine. They're in an album titled The Pied Piper of Tucson located here:

http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/vanishingtucson/photos/browse/3c33?c=

Supposedly the cottage where Schmid held his parties was near the nursing home owned by his parents (they also bought the cottage for him).? I've also seen a reference stating that it was about a half mile from the Flamingo hotel (where Gretchen Frtiz's car was found after she went missing) but no direction was given.

Steve Q.

Deb Rollins wrote:
Posted by: joebuck95@...
Wed Mar 5, 2008 6:09 pm (PST)
Hi,
Just the other day I posted some scans of photos from
the March 4, 1966 article in Life magazine that
labeled him with that name. The scans are located in
an album titled Speedway.
------------------------------------------------
SteveQ-Thank you so much for your info. I read up on
quite a bit today. Very sad tales but all so true.
Tucson was really a great place to be a teenager in
back then but like most cities there was a very dark
side. Thankfully, the worst thing my group did was
sneak out or an occasional trashing a restaurant table
and just try to have fun and not have the cops catch
us after curfew. I never like the taste of beer or
alcohol and never smoked anything worse than Virginia
Slims menthols, which tasted lousy after awhile. I
think I had fun, then maybe my group was kind of
boring compared to some. Just cruising around and
hangin'out with the radio blasting, multiple trips up
A Mountain on Friday and Saturday nites seemed good
enough. I got my heart broke and broke a few maybe,
but I've had a long good marriage to my first serious
love, so life hasn't been that bad!
-Deb


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Re: Drug Stores

 

Hi Deb,

You mentioned in another post that you worked at Encanto Drug in 1970. I was 6 years old at the time. It's likely that I went in while you worked there. My dad used to take me there. Last time I went in there was probably 1981-82. I wonder if the lunch counter is still intact.

Steve Q.

Deb Rollins wrote:
Steve Q- Someone mentioned the drug store I worked at
was Encanto Drug. Funny all those years in Tucson and
I never noticed the name of it when I went past North
Stone and University later in life. High school jobs
were not all that memorable I guess, oh well except
remembering the good looking guys who came in. Maybe
you just might have one of them......LOL
-Deb



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Re: Restaurants

 

Posted by: "Phil" tucnative744@...
Wed Mar 5, 2008 7:17 pm (PST)
I may be showing my age, but does anybody remember
Arts Coney Island. Hot dogs and stuff
Located by West Congress Near the old Greyhound bus
depot. Chili Dogs 12/$1.00.
----------------------------------------------------
Was that near the old theatre? But then again I may be
thinking of another place. Everybody always talked
about Pat's Red Chili Hot Dogs on the southside, but I
never cared for them. DerWeinerSchnitzel had the best
chili dogs I thought. Now its Hamburger Stand right?
-Deb


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Re: Cruising Speedway

 

Posted by: joebuck95@...
Wed Mar 5, 2008 6:09 pm (PST)
Hi,
Just the other day I posted some scans of photos from
the March 4, 1966 article in Life magazine that
labeled him with that name. The scans are located in
an album titled Speedway.
------------------------------------------------
SteveQ-Thank you so much for your info. I read up on
quite a bit today. Very sad tales but all so true.
Tucson was really a great place to be a teenager in
back then but like most cities there was a very dark
side. Thankfully, the worst thing my group did was
sneak out or an occasional trashing a restaurant table
and just try to have fun and not have the cops catch
us after curfew. I never like the taste of beer or
alcohol and never smoked anything worse than Virginia
Slims menthols, which tasted lousy after awhile. I
think I had fun, then maybe my group was kind of
boring compared to some. Just cruising around and
hangin'out with the radio blasting, multiple trips up
A Mountain on Friday and Saturday nites seemed good
enough. I got my heart broke and broke a few maybe,
but I've had a long good marriage to my first serious
love, so life hasn't been that bad!
-Deb


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Re: Cruising Speedway

 

Re: Cruising Speedway
Posted by: "George Cohn"
Wed Mar 5, 2008 5:51 pm (PST)
----------------------------------------------------
George- Just read up on Charles Scmidd "The Pied Piper
of Tucson" I learned a lot more than even the book I
read years ago. Some of the names were familiar and I
do remember the Hillcrest Nursing Home his adopted
parents owned. His mother was quite a character trying
to act like her little boy was an innocent angel. His
death was about as dramatic as his life, grisly and
predictable.
Thanks for the lead.
-Deb



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Re: Valley of the Moon

 

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So I am assuming you are Jan's sister, (not Margaret's sister) - I never met Brice's first wife since I joined the Tarwater clan later?in 1984? living there in the Drexel Heights 'hood for ten years before we moved, and loving Willodean until the day she passed.(any beyond, she was the sweetest lady on Earth)??It is awful what the people who bought her house did to it - the first thing was to pull down all the?trees, bushes, and?flowers. They?painted it an olive green - now different people have moved in and at least?painted the house a?tamer color.? I laught she would have loved to her tales of this site since she knew so much about Tucson - and the South Side where she lived - and until the day she died have the mind of a steel trap - when they first moved to Tucson she and her husband and kdis (5 of them at the time with one to pass and one to arrive later) worked off of Drexel and Old 6th at a Chicken Ranch.? She still used the old names of things - like Midvale Park was still "the nut farm" - which I would explain wasn't nutty people but all the nut trees that used to be in that area.? She shopped off of 6th and 12th for years - loved Southgate - and she had only one credit card her whole life and it was for Western Auto- which sold tires, and funiture among other things.? She still kept the card long after the store went out of business.? In fact she had a small history of Tucson in her house but all that is gone now.? As well as some of the places she used to like to go, the "old" Kmart at Santa Clara and Valenica - Hamilton Funiture - Fair Mart - Yellow Front - she had seen so many changes since she came to Tucson.
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From: debkaye2001@...
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 12:05:12 -0800
Subject: [vanishingtucson] Re:Valley of the Moon

Valley of the Moon
Posted by: "Ann Tarwater" raingirl44@hotmail.com
Wed Mar 5, 2008 10:40 am (PST)
--------------------------------------------------
Ann- Are you any relation to the late Willadean
Tarwater who lived out in the Drexel Heights area for
many years? Her son Brice, was married to my sister in
the early 80's. Brice had one two brothers, one named
Stevie and had sisters but only remember one named
Elaine. Willadean was a friend of mine, she lived on
Hildreth street in a yellow house for many years, we
lived down the block. Just curious.
Thanks,
Deb R.

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Re: Cruising Speedway

 

Actually he died in prison. His nickname was "The Pied
Piper of Tucson" as he was dubbed by the press.
George
---------------------------------------------------
Thank you George, later in the day I remembered his
nickname. I think my memory fades now and then,
something I thought was that he escaped and was found
with a silly wig on near the tracks. Sure glad folks
have a better memory than me, and to think I read the
book about him years ago......did they also make a
movie about him? Wow, John Dillinger, the Bonnano's,
and Charles Schmidt, who said Tucson was a berg!!!!!
Do remember the Old Spanish Trail Motel on Benson Hwy,
where Bill Bonnano was supposedly to have hung out and
something about him being shot at in the barber shop,
probably got that all mixed up too. I do remember
going down that little street in front of UMC and
looking at the house where Charles Bonnano lived and
down the back alley to see where someone had blew up
his back concrete fence in the 1970's.
-Deb




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Re: Drug Stores

 

Steve Q- Someone mentioned the drug store I worked at
was Encanto Drug. Funny all those years in Tucson and
I never noticed the name of it when I went past North
Stone and University later in life. High school jobs
were not all that memorable I guess, oh well except
remembering the good looking guys who came in. Maybe
you just might have one of them......LOL
-Deb



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Re: Drug Stores

 

Posted by: "Jim Buchanan"
Wed Mar 5, 2008 12:07 pm (PST)
The Encanto Drug stores were owned by a man named
Mickey Ginsberg and his father. The Ginsbergs had a
store on north Stone at University and another on E
Speedway at Craycroft. There were other stores also.
---------------------------------------------------
Now thats the one I worked at, Encanto Drug in 1970 or
so. I forgot about University Ave, but do remember the
Arizona Mortuary was on the corner and what I remember
about Mickey Ginsberg he was a stocky, balding man in
his forties or so. He was very nice to us girls who
worked at the lunch counter and would always leave a
tip when he ate his lunch there even though he worked
just across the store at the Pharmacy and of course
owned the place. But we could hear him sometimes
chastising other employees. Once in awhile his father
would be there and I believe his mother would come in
too. Feels like a hundred years ago now.
Deb R.




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