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Just found this site. Good stuff. As a Tucson native it brings back alot of memories.
  Drachman Elementary School
  The Mickey Mouse Club at The Fox
  The State Theater
   Bokes Drive In
   La Concha

  Lot's of good memories

Kiddie Land

Harlen

#1710

I used to like going to Kiddie Land on Speedway near Alvernon. Had a couple of birthday
parties there. It was like having carnival rides all year long. What years was it there? It was just rides right no booths?

Re: De Grazia - The OLD STUDIO, Rosita's Mexican Restaurant and a little history

Harlen

#1709

Oh yeah,  Rositas on Prince, I went there a lot with my siblings. She had great food, very
homemade quality and love, really nice lady, refreshing jamaica tea with lemonade.

And then there was Someplace Else...


--- In vanishingtucson@..., "diamondbacks07fan"
<diamondbacks07fan@...> wrote:

The old studios were at Campbell and Prince... home of the new
Social Security office & Chevron (circa 1991-1992) - if there is one
thing that would make ol' Ted roll over in his grave it would be
knowing that there is a federal building on his old property. He
hated taxes and all that gov't stuff! The studios were sold/torn
down in approximately 1988 - then the SS bldg and Chevron were built
in approx 1991-92 - (I'm trying to remember what grade I was in and
where my mom worked at what point... I think I'm close!)

My mom used to work for a company that was located in his old
studios there "Needlepoint Ltd" which over the years
became "Sundance Designs" - they reproduced his artwork on
needlepoint canvas... our friends still own the company although
since their move from the old studios and death of one of the
partners, it is now run out of a house in midtown and is exclusively
wholesale.

Also located in that center was La Tienda Gifts - which moved around
the corner on Prince for a while...
and Que Sera Sera who was a custom jeweler named Bernie and he moved
over on Country Club near Journal Broadcast Group for a couple years
after they tore down the studios.
Rosita's was the mexican place - I remember one day their
beans "exploded" (yes, actually exploded!) and caused a fire - that
was shortly before they sold the property.

In the old Sundance Designs office there was an old shower that was 
painted to look like a donkey was peeing on you as you showered. I
think the girls just used that as a storage area. And the walls were
really brittle because it was old adobe like material - it probably
wouldn't have lasted much longer without significant repairs.

The land was left to De Grazia's wife Marion who eventually sold it.
His son Nick who lived on the property in the back for a while with
his very alcoholic girlfriend who went by the name "Queenie." I
remember one day Nick (got high or something!) painted all the
prickly pear cactus bright colors on the surface of the pads. He was
a freak show that kid. (I call him kid, but he is about 30 years
older than me). I don't recall him having many kids other than Nick
and I think a daughter whose name escapes me. But I don't think any
of them were "illegitimate."

I do remember the burning of his paintings and him having lots of
ties to Mexico.

There is also the Gallery in the Sun which is run by the De Grazia
Foundation - it's up on Swan north of Sunrise.

I studied art (the third time around in college) and did alot of
research on De Grazia - so if anyone ever needs to know about him
and cannot find the answers online - shoot me a note and I'll look
up some of my old research papers!

--- In vanishingtucson@..., <joebuck95@> wrote:

Hi,

It wasn't a mall but one of DeGazia's early studios like theGallery In The Sun.  It was on Prince & Campbell. I believe it was
torn down long ago.

 I was friends with one of his grandsons who fixed up one of thesections and lived there while he was attending the U of A.

I forget the name of the restaurant, but I was never interested ineating there. Just seemed too dirty to me. I remember them using
paper plates too, but I think that was toward the end when they were
maybe going downhill. I remember that they had a very loyal
following.

DeGrazia left most of his fortune to the DeGrazia Foundation andto an illegitimate son. His other children didn't get much, the
biggest asset he left them I believe was this property on Prince. Do
you remember when DeGrazia protested the inheritance tax by burning
100 of his paintings in the Superstition Mountains?

ldjscott1 <ldjscott1@> wrote: From the later 60's I recall asmall old shopping center on the corner
of maybe Grant and Campbell or Ft. Lowell? Unfortunately, I don'tseem
to remember exactly which streets. It had a couple little artshops and
a silversmith and a Mexican restaurant. Ted De Grazia had done artwork
all over the inside walls of the restaurant. Can anyone help mewith
the location or name? I think I remember hearing it was the oldest
shopping center in Tucson. Thanks.




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Rustler's Roost

Harlen

#1708

Anybody ever go to a place in the desert called Rustlers Roost? Pretty much just open desert
on the west side at the edn of a dirt road?, Good for parties, live electrified music sometimes. I forget how we got there, maybe off Silverbell?

Re: Cruising Speedway

Steve Q.

#1707

Hi,

I've started an album for Speedway related photos. It is located here:

So far I've posted a scan of Speedway looking east (taken from
approximately Country Club) from the March 4, 1966 issue of Life
magazine. It is from an article about Charles Schmid, The Pied Piper
of Tucson. That sounds like a topic for discussion.

Also a couple pics of the Redwood Lodge Restaurant that was at 5532 E.
Speedway, and a pic taken inside the Shakey's that was on Craycroft
near Speedway. This is a scan from one of my old yearbooks.

 In vanishingtucson@..., "acapps99" <AGCTucson@...> wrote:

Show quoted text

Sometime around 1968 thru 72 we were in highschool and the method of
racing on Speedway was as follows:  You would stop at the light going
westbound on Speedway at Sway.  When the light turned greed, get on it
and you got an extra benefit because it is DOWNHILL right there on
speedway.  We would park our cars in the dirt lot on the north side of
Speedway west of Swan where that shopping center is now.  That was all
desert back then.  Back then I think the car of the day was a 64 Nova
or maybe a fixed up Chevy 2.

Capps

Re: Mother Higgins,Cruising Speedway,other recent threads

#1706

开云体育

Oh the named party spots - I think I remember them better than most since my curfew was 11:00 and I wasn't allowed to drink so I didn't drink very much.
?
17 poles still good well into the late 80's until the cops did a real crackdown 100 cops 4 helicopters and impounded everything with wheels -? a field day for the tow trucks -
?
LTD - Speedway past Houghton (the legend goes the first person who founded this was a girl who drove an LTD) the police left us alone here until someone did something foolish - oh like setting a VW block on fire (who knew about green fire?) the road to it was right past the Arabian horse place, lots of houses there now - wonder if when they dig to plant a tree they wonder why they keep digging up beer bottles.
?
Dry Ponds - now is basiclly (just East of there) Valencia and Houghton - there were cows there - we once rescued one from one of the ponds that wasn't quite "dry" but very muddy.
?
Wet Ponds (or just Houghton) was there across the street from Pantano Stables - this is near where the old drag strip was but at the time I don't think we knew we were near it.
?
Dwayne's Ponds - (and I never really figured out who Dwayne was) was off of Houghton (far off) and somewhere on a gas line road toward Rita Road.
?
Oh and there were the party houses - but those will stay private to protect the drunk and disorderly.
?
I knew some of those places had beent there awhile by the type of old cans that I found around - I always wondered how the 90's kids took to finding poptop cans laying around.

To: vanishingtucson@...
From: patrickbgawne@...
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:54:32 +0000
Subject: [vanishingtucson] Mother Higgins,Cruising Speedway,other recent threads

I distinctly remember being terrified of the prospect of being sent
to Mother Higgins' when I was a real little kid. I had a propensity
to wander around the east side of town, I would wake up hours before
the rest of the family and head on out to see the day. When I learned
how to ride a bike I would ride all day, way up Sabino Canyon and way
out south on Houghton. I lived near Broadway and Wilmot at the time
and I bet the police were out looking for me 10 times a year. This
was all around 1970-71 and I guess the world was a safer place or I
was just lucky that nothing bad ever happened to me.
Eventually, my eldest two sisters(There were nine of us kids) were
assigned the duty of keeping an eye on me and that basically meant
that I got to cruise Speedway every other Friday night, back when it
was still a fairly cool thing to do. My sister Agnes had a '64
Mercury Monterey Convertible, Pink with a white top and she and my
sister Maureen would do some truly ridiculous things, not so much
racing as flirting and breaking hearts.
In '74 my Mom got a '72 Monterey 4-door with a huge engine and when
my brother Pierce turned 16 that car was the end of a lot of Camaro
and Mustang owners dreams of glory. It was very much a "sleeper" and
I still recall the looks on some faces as it tore down Speedway.
I guess the legend of Mother Higgins faded away about '76 or so, by
the time I started High school everyone was just afraid of "Juvie"
and I really didn't think about Mother Higgins up until about ten
years ago when the name came up in a conversation at work. Funny how
some things fade away.
My friends on the east side used to party out at 17 poles, which was
past Harrison on Broadway and my west side friends would party
at "The Flats" at the base of Saginaw Hill. 17 poles has been gone
since the 80's but The Flats was still a viable spot up until a
couple years ago. Now it's a Superfund toxic waste site and I wonder
how many generations of us were exposed to arsenic? Maybe all the
beer consumed helped mitigate the exposure.
There are still places to race around town, just as stupid now as it
was then and I imagine that kids are planning a kegger for this
weekend in some desert spot.The face of Tucson changes constantly,
but there's still not really much to do on a Friday night around
here, that's why I love it so much.
Sorry if this is a long post, but I could go on forever, maybe I
should write a book and steal the name from that song about Speedway,
"The Ins and The Outs and the In-Betweens" I think it was called.

Climb to the top of the charts!?Play the word scramble challenge with star power.

Re: De Grazia Mexican Restaurant?

lrmwallen

#1705

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "captures_lightning"
<mstoklos@...> wrote:

I remember the restaurant
 but i think it was north of Glenn and south of beyond bread on the
east side where the gas station is now... De Grazia use to holdcourt
there w/ his bottle of Chavas scotch.. they had holes w/ marbles in
all the doors and we could bring our beer and put it in theirrefrig,
the old lady Rosa Rosita..?  made a great deep fried cheese crisp,so
puffy topped w/ cheese and vegs.. this was 1972 - late 70's  then
they moved to the Price and Campbell location and was never the same

Michael
--- In vanishingtucson@..., "Lee ." <azlee1@> wrote:

Yeah, it was on the southeast corner of Prince and Campbell (gasstation
there now) The restaurant was Rosa's or something close to that.I
ate there
once back in about 79 shortly after I moved out here.

--Lee

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:45 PM, <joebuck95@> wrote:

 Hi,

It wasn't a mall but one of DeGazia's early studios like theGallery In
The Sun.  It was on Prince & Campbell. I believe it was torndown
long ago.

I was friends with one of his grandsons who fixed up one of thesections
and lived there while he was attending the U of A.

I forget the name of the restaurant, but I was never interestedin eating
there. Just seemed too dirty to me. I remember them using paperplates too,
but I think that was toward the end when they were maybe goingdownhill. I
remember that they had a very loyal following.

DeGrazia left most of his fortune to the DeGrazia Foundationand
to an
illegitimate son. His other children didn't get much, thebiggest
asset he
left them I believe was this property on Prince. Do youremember
when
DeGrazia protested the inheritance tax by burning 100 of hispaintings in
the Superstition Mountains?


*ldjscott1 <ldjscott1@>* wrote:

From the later 60's I recall a small old shopping center on thecorner
of maybe Grant and Campbell or Ft. Lowell? Unfortunately, Idon't
seem
to remember exactly which streets. It had a couple little artshops and
a silversmith and a Mexican restaurant. Ted De Grazia had doneart work
all over the inside walls of the restaurant. Can anyone help mewith
the location or name? I think I remember hearing it was theoldest
shopping center in Tucson. Thanks.
 Hi, I think it was called Cambell plaza, on Cambell and Ibelieve Glenn.




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Finally got my photos up

#1704

I finally got my images uploaded and they are in a folder called
Desert Inn Tucson Visitors Guide.
I found these items in a pile of junk that I cleaned up for an
elderly gentleman 2 years ago. His name was John (Stonewall) Jackson
and he came here to the Old Pueblo back in the 40's originally to 
work on films. He was a bit actor in many productions filmed around
Tucson and Arizona. I have dozens of candid pictures he took on
various sets, but I never found any photos of Tucson. Sadly, other
people had gone through his things before I got there and I can only
imagine the treasures that were lost.
The visitor guide is very large, so I had to make 2 images of every
page as it would not fit in my scanner.
The one ad that I enlarged is for the Sands' Beauty Parlor which was
owned by my friend Grace Brownlee at the time this guide was
published. Grace also owned the Zodiac salon at Grande&Congress for
many years.
I like the map too, as it shows an SST landing at D-M.
I have also posted a counter card ad for a bullfight in Nogales, back
when telephone #s had letters too. It lists a place on Congress where
you could purchase tickets and I think John picked up the card at
Hotel Congress or Crescent Tobacco Shop.
The Chill Wills pic is actually a postcard that he sent to John.
I also posted a picture of me standing near the desert that is now
the convalescent home next to Villa Carondelet, I stepped in my first
cholla there in 1968, to my left is the construction site that is now
Kimberly Woods Apts.This picture was taken on Christmas Day,1973

Mother Higgins,Cruising Speedway,other recent threads

#1703

I distinctly remember being terrified of the prospect of being sent
to Mother Higgins' when I was a real little kid. I had a propensity
to wander around the east side of town, I would wake up hours before
the rest of the family and head on out to see the day. When I learned
how to ride a bike I would ride all day, way up Sabino Canyon and way
out south on Houghton. I lived near Broadway and Wilmot at the time
and I bet the police were out looking for me 10 times a year. This
was all around 1970-71 and I guess the world was a safer place or I
was just lucky that nothing bad ever happened to me.
Eventually, my eldest two sisters(There were nine of us kids) were
assigned the duty of keeping an eye on me and that basically meant
that I got to cruise Speedway every other Friday night, back when it
was still a fairly cool thing to do. My sister Agnes had a '64
Mercury Monterey Convertible, Pink with a white top and she and my
sister Maureen would do some truly ridiculous things, not so much
racing as flirting and breaking hearts.
In '74 my Mom got a '72 Monterey 4-door with a huge engine and when
my brother Pierce turned 16 that car was the end of a lot of Camaro
and Mustang owners dreams of glory. It was very much a "sleeper" and
I still recall the looks on some faces as it tore down Speedway.
I guess the legend of Mother Higgins faded away about '76 or so, by
the time I started High school everyone was just afraid of "Juvie"
and I really didn't think about Mother Higgins up until about ten
years ago when the name came up in a conversation at work. Funny how
some things fade away.
My friends on the east side used to party out at 17 poles, which was
past Harrison on Broadway and my west side friends would party
at "The Flats" at the base of Saginaw Hill. 17 poles has been gone
since the 80's but The Flats was still a viable spot up until a
couple years ago. Now it's a Superfund toxic waste site and I wonder
how many generations of us were exposed to arsenic? Maybe all the
beer consumed helped mitigate the exposure.
There are still places to race around town, just as stupid now as it
was then and I imagine that kids are planning a kegger for this
weekend in some desert spot.The face of Tucson changes constantly,
but there's still not really much to do on a Friday night around
here, that's why I love it so much.
Sorry if this is a long post, but I could go on forever, maybe I
should write a book and steal the name from that song about Speedway,
"The Ins and The Outs and the In-Betweens" I think it was called.

Re: De Grazia Mexican Restaurant?

#1702

I remember the restaurant
 but i think it was north of Glenn and south of beyond bread on the
east side where the gas station is now... De Grazia use to hold court
there w/ his bottle of Chavas scotch.. they had holes w/ marbles in
all the doors and we could bring our beer and put it in their refrig,
the old lady Rosa Rosita..?  made a great deep fried cheese crisp, so 
puffy topped w/ cheese and vegs.. this was 1972 - late 70's  then
they moved to the Price and Campbell location and was never the same

Michael
--- In vanishingtucson@..., "Lee ." <azlee1@...> wrote:

Yeah, it was on the southeast corner of Prince and Campbell (gasstation
there now) The restaurant was Rosa's or something close to that. Iate there
once back in about 79 shortly after I moved out here.

--Lee

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 2:45 PM, <joebuck95@...> wrote:

 Hi,

It wasn't a mall but one of DeGazia's early studios like theGallery In
The Sun.  It was on Prince & Campbell. I believe it was torn downlong ago.

I was friends with one of his grandsons who fixed up one of thesections
and lived there while he was attending the U of A.

I forget the name of the restaurant, but I was never interestedin eating
there. Just seemed too dirty to me. I remember them using paperplates too,
but I think that was toward the end when they were maybe goingdownhill. I
remember that they had a very loyal following.

DeGrazia left most of his fortune to the DeGrazia Foundation andto an
illegitimate son. His other children didn't get much, the biggestasset he
left them I believe was this property on Prince. Do you rememberwhen
DeGrazia protested the inheritance tax by burning 100 of hispaintings in
the Superstition Mountains?


*ldjscott1 <ldjscott1@...>* wrote:

From the later 60's I recall a small old shopping center on thecorner
of maybe Grant and Campbell or Ft. Lowell? Unfortunately, I don'tseem
to remember exactly which streets. It had a couple little artshops and
a silversmith and a Mexican restaurant. Ted De Grazia had doneart work
all over the inside walls of the restaurant. Can anyone help mewith
the location or name? I think I remember hearing it was the oldest
shopping center in Tucson. Thanks.




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Re: Drug Stores

[email protected]

#1701

Hi,

I have an issue of El Tucsonense (a spanish language newspaper) from March 9, 1951. It has an ad for Martin Drug Co. which was part of the Rexall chain. It says they had stores at Speedway & Country Club and Congress & Church (these locations had photographic service. Their store at Congress & 5th Ave. had all night service.

Vinnie Van Wyen wrote:

There was a Rexall on the southeast corner of Oracle and Grant where
the Circle K is now.
Also Nick DeGrazia was pretty well known at the old "Boondocks" when
it was located on the northwest corner of Prince and Campbell. Lee
Marvin was no stranger there, too. Another of his hangouts was "The
Rusty Nail" over on Flowing Wells just north of Wetmore.

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Re: Mother Higgins

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#1700

Hi,

Mother Higgins' name was Clara Higgins. Her husband was a Pima County probation officer who would take in troubled kids at their home. From 1932 until 1956 her home was the only juvenile detention center in Pima County. The kids would either be released or sent to Fort Grant (boys) or Home of The Good Shepherd (girls). Before that juveniles were held in the county jail or in cells at the county courthouse. Her home ws located on east 4th street although I don't know where.

The facility on east Congress was originally named the Mother Higgins Home then later the Juvenile Court Center.

I think she died around 1963.

It's true about the terror. Whenever my mom threatened to send me to Mother Higgins I begged her not to send me there and promised to never misbehave again. I always imagined Mother Higgins as a mean old lady who would do mean things to the kids. I thought she was still alive and running the place.

Melissa Talley wrote:

Why was it called Mother Higgins? Is that a nickname or was it the real name?

Melissa

On 3/2/08, lanniemalaha wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Mother Higgins was a real place.............JUVIE !!!!!!
> It's where delinquents went to spend time for their crimes and where
> all juveniles went for traffic violations.
> In the 1950s and 60s, Mother Higgins was located on the Freeway and
> Congress, on the west frontage road just south of what was then the
> Sands Motel and a radio station next door to the motel.
>
> I can still see that building.
>
> The name "Mother Higgins" struck terror in the hearts of all Tucson's
> children and teenagers.
>
> Lannie
>
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Re: Hidden House Ice Cream Parlor

#1699

The Hidden House Ice Cream parlour was on Broadway near Tucson Blvd. My special memory
was "rainbow sherbet." There was some sort of dispute (family/zoning) that precluded the
demolition of the old "house." New, modern structures were built on two sides of it (L-
shaped). Remember going there with my parents & sister in late 40s/early 50s. (Do not
remember when it finally bit the dust.) Jeri

Show quoted text

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "ZONA1953" <ZONA1953@...> wrote:

Does anyone remember Hidden House Ice Cream tucked away on Speedway
near Tucson Blvd or Country Club?

Bob

Re: Mother Higgins

#1697

Why was it called Mother Higgins? Is that a nickname or was it the real name?

Melissa

Show quoted text

On 3/2/08, lanniemalaha <lannini@...> wrote:

Mother Higgins was a real place.............JUVIE !!!!!!
 It's where delinquents went to spend time for their crimes and where
 all juveniles went for traffic violations.
 In the 1950s and 60s, Mother Higgins was located on the Freeway and
 Congress, on the west frontage road just south of what was then the
 Sands Motel and a radio station next door to the motel.

 I can still see that building.

 The name "Mother Higgins" struck terror in the hearts of all Tucson's
 children and teenagers.

 Lannie

Mother Higgins

lanniemalaha

#1696

Mother Higgins was a real place.............JUVIE !!!!!!
It's where delinquents went to spend time for their crimes and where
all juveniles went for traffic violations.
In the 1950s and 60s, Mother Higgins was located on the Freeway and
Congress, on the west frontage road just south of what was then the
Sands Motel and a radio station next door to the motel.

I can still see that building.

The name "Mother Higgins" struck terror in the hearts of all Tucson's
children and teenagers.

Lannie

Re: Hidden House Ice Cream Parlor

lanniemalaha

#1695

Hidden House Fans !
In 1955, this ice cream parlor was at 2503 E Broadway.........and it
was hidden............hard to find.
In 1959, the owner Frank Berdofe had expanded his business......he
had the original still on Broadway and another at 2744-48 N Campbell
and one more at 5954 E Speedway.

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "cactusflower12342003"
<mjr20039@...> wrote:

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "ZONA1953" <ZONA1953@>wrote:

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "Marcia" <mjr20039@>wrote:

I seem to remember the Hidden House on Speedway just west ofWilmot.
This is 1958ish.

MJ
I need to check a phone book to be sure.  There may have beenmore 
than
one location??  Its namesake was because it seemed to be an oldhouse
that another business built up to to it, sort of hiding it.

BP
Yes. That's it.  There probably was more than one.  I'd beinterested
to hear what you find out.

MJ

Re: Hidden House Ice Cream Parlor

#1694

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "ZONA1953" <ZONA1953@...> wrote:

Does anyone remember Hidden House Ice Cream tucked away on Speedway
near Tucson Blvd or Country Club?

Bob
I lived about a mile away when I was a kid. My family requently stopped
there before the commercial building was build around the house thereby
making it the Hidden House.
Strange things one remembers. They had a cork bulletin board by the
doorway where people tacked their business cards. As a 10 year old I
thought this was a neat idea.

Re: Cruising Speedway

#1698

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Funny to think Speedway was NAMED Speedway because it was Tucson's original drag-racing strip, way back in the 1920's.? Somewhere, in my grandmother's photo collection, I was a 1920's picture of a bunch of guys jammed into a Model T.

?

The last I heard of cruising on Speedway, cops were giving out tickets to cars they saw going by several times.? That essentially ended it.? Of course, there's too much damn traffic for it to be fun anymore.

?

Oh yeah, and sheriffs patrol all the old make-out spots.? The teens go way further out in the desert now, probably don't have the good views anymore.? It feels so good to be pushin' 50, knowing that "times they are a changin'"

?

and not so much for the good anymore

?

peace, Helen

Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters.

Re: Drug Stores

#1693

There was a Rexall on the southeast corner of Oracle and Grant where
the Circle K is now.
Also Nick DeGrazia was pretty well known at the old "Boondocks" when
it was located on the northwest corner of Prince and Campbell.  Lee
Marvin was no stranger there, too.  Another of his hangouts was "The
Rusty Nail" over on Flowing Wells just north of Wetmore.

Re: Found a cool "whatever happened to?" link

!

#1692

Posted by: "Frank Casanova"Hi All...As one of the KTKT DJ' from the late '60s noted on this site,
I invite you to check out www.ktkt99.com for some great look backs at
the hay-day of Tucson's premier top-40 rocker. The guys putting
together this site will be building a new section featuring the jocks
of the late '60's...it ought to be fun! (Just joined and love this
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     Yes, I've seen the site -- I'll have to spend some more time looking at everything that's posted there. Frank Kalil was kind of like a kids' hero when I was growing up.
     I remember you from the radio. If I remember right, you left Tucson to go to San Francisco with a band called the Frozen Sun, looking for stardom for the group. I have the "Electric Soul" single.


     Kerry