Hello Jeff,

Thanks for keeping an eye on the Spanish Trail for us. What a great
place! The owner allowed us inside for a photo tour last year. Some
of the photos are here, thanks to Mark:



Jeff, since you drive by the property every day, could you please let
us know what's happening in more detail? Are they knocking something
down? Which building? The sign? A quick pic shot out the car window
would be helpful. You can post them in the same folder above.

FYI, the most recent motel rooms have been converted into low-cost
apartments. Earlier motel sections were damaged by fire. The
classic, mid-century modern lobby, lounge, and restaurant is being
used for storage. Tho owner seemed to have no other plans for the
property. Luckily, the property is within South Tucson, and not
subject to City of Tucson's ultra-restrictive codes and zoning which
could otherwise FORCE a demolition.

****

I also agree that Tucson needs a "sign park" for it's grand, unique,
irreplaceable signage. Imagine wandering at night through a forest of
giant glowing neon signs at Reid Park.

I'm eventually going to start working on this idea with contacts from
the Magic Carpet / Valley Of The Moon Project. I like the term "sign
park", too. As far as I know, the only sign park in existence is in
Las Vegas. Where did you hear the term?

****

The Tucson Biltmore was at 2775 N. Oracle. I think you confused the
two because they both had the circular two-story glass-walled lobby
with attached restaurant and lounge.


Thanks,

Carlos

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Here one of the photos from the Stone House just off of Ajo (you can see it from Ajo on the south side when you headed through the "pass" - I had this on my other computer since it is my entry for the fair this year.? This house was never completed and the hill has run down into the back side of it - I have never been able to find out any info about it at all.? I passed it for years before I was brave enough to find the trail leading up to it.? Oh, in my walkings this weekend I found an old dump - and the remains of a 50's style roller skate frame - shoe and wheels were long gone just the base and hubs.??There is alot of desert near my house (at the moment) and I like to take wanderings through it - so much to see.

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To: vanishingtucson@...
From: mistercopacetic@...
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:49:09 +0000
Subject: [vanishingtucson] stone houses in the Tucson Mountains...

Hello Ann,

I've spent many mornings in the Tucson Mountains hiking and biking to
ruins of old stone houses. I'd love to see your photos if you can
find them. I'd also like to try to determine exactly where they are/were.

I always liked that old stone house under the Tamarisks and billboards
on the west side of I-10 at El Camino Del Cerro (Wetmore exit). Wish I
had snapped just one shot before they tore it down.

Thanks,

Carlos

--- In vanishingtucson@yahoogroups.com, 'Ann Tarwater'
...> wrote:
>
> Also somewhere in my photo cds I have pics of two old stone houses in
> the Tucson Mountains one off of Ajo and one that is part of the Trails
> West III Tucson Mountain Trail - are these part of what we are looking
> at as well - if so I'll post them.
>
> The house in the Trails West area had a signature in the concrete from
> I think 1926 (I would have to look at the pic again - but the name was
> Karn - I tried to look at the death records for Tucson but the person
> died in a nursing home so I couldn't tell if it was the same folks)
>
> There is an interesting house near Westover between Drexel and
> Valencia a man took his wife to New Orleans for their honeymoom and he
> was sorry he did (as he told me jokingly) since his wife made him
> built a New Orleans style house (he said he did the best he could
> using what they had and his memory) it is the only two story in the
> neighborhood and a bright white color- also nearby that one (there was
> no zoning in this area for a long while) on Milton near Gunsight
> across from Warren Elem is a Hogan house for a long time the guy who
> built it lived in it but it had a for sale sign a few years ago and
> now the yard looks different so I assume someone new is in it.
>

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The Triple C Chuckwagon dinners is where the Sons of the Pioneers used to sing - you got dinner in a tin pan and then sat on benches for the show - after the Son didn't tour as much the Camp Family sang themselves or brought in other acts.? You can Google it there are lots of articles on the Triple C - it closed in 2003 I think - I always liked hearing the singing as I drove by.?
?
The address is on Bopp Road I just would have to look again to get the numbers it was on about 12 acres of land.?
?


?

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To: vanishingtucson@...
From: mistercopacetic@...
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 19:37:19 +0000
Subject: [vanishingtucson] Triple C Chuckwagon, windmills, etc...

Hello Ann,

This all sounds very interesting. I hate to admit it, but I can just
barely remember the places you mentioned. Can you or anyone else
refresh my memory? Anyone (Lannie) have addresses? And yes, photos
are ALWAYS welcome. Always. There are folders for restaurants and
gas stations in the photos section.

Thanks for your contributions,

Carlos

--- In vanishingtucson@yahoogroups.com, "Ann Tarwater"
...> wrote:
>
> I know we went over quite a few places that closed and I forgot to
> mention one - live nearby but never went-
>
> The Triple C chuckwagon Dinners - there are now streets there named
> for the Camp Family (no houses yet) but the sign is still there,
> peeling but still there - should a snap a pic?
>
> The windmill is close by - they repainted it but it is there.
>
> Speaking of windmills there is a house near me on windmill strett
> and he has a near place with windmills and old signs and a replica of
> an old gas station - I took some pics from the street once did any
> want to see those?
>

---

Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail?-get your "fix".

Hello Ann,

I've spent many mornings in the Tucson Mountains hiking and biking to
ruins of old stone houses. I'd love to see your photos if you can
find them. I'd also like to try to determine exactly where they are/were.

I always liked that old stone house under the Tamarisks and billboards
on the west side of I-10 at El Camino Del Cerro (Wetmore exit). Wish I
had snapped just one shot before they tore it down.

Thanks,

Carlos






--- In vanishingtucson@..., "Ann Tarwater"
<raingirl44@...> wrote:

Also somewhere in my photo cds I have pics of two old stone houses in
the Tucson Mountains one off of Ajo and one that is part of the Trails
West III Tucson Mountain Trail - are these part of what we are looking
at as well - if so I'll post them.

The house in the Trails West area had a signature in the concrete from
I think 1926 (I would have to look at the pic again - but the name was
Karn - I tried to look at the death records for Tucson but the person
died in a nursing home so I couldn't tell if it was the same folks)

There is an interesting house near Westover between Drexel and
Valencia a man took his wife to New Orleans for their honeymoom and he
was sorry he did (as he told me jokingly) since his wife made him
built a New Orleans style house (he said he did the best he could
using what they had and his memory) it is the only two story in the
neighborhood and a bright white color- also nearby that one (there was
no zoning in this area for a long while) on Milton near Gunsight
across from Warren Elem is a Hogan house for a long time the guy who
built it lived in it but it had a for sale sign a few years ago and
now the yard looks different so I assume someone new is in it.

Hello Ann,

This all sounds very interesting. I hate to admit it, but I can just
barely remember the places you mentioned. Can you or anyone else
refresh my memory? Anyone (Lannie) have addresses? And yes, photos
are ALWAYS welcome. Always. There are folders for restaurants and
gas stations in the photos section.

Thanks for your contributions,

Carlos


--- In vanishingtucson@..., "Ann Tarwater"
<raingirl44@...> wrote:

I know we went over quite a few places that closed and I forgot to
mention one - live nearby but never went-

The Triple C chuckwagon Dinners - there are now streets there named
for the Camp Family (no houses yet) but the sign is still there,
peeling but still there - should a snap a pic?

The windmill is close by - they repainted it but it is there.

Speaking of windmills there is a house near me on windmill strett
and he has a near place with windmills and old signs and a replica of
an old gas station - I took some pics from the street once did any
want to see those?

Hello All,

Great news! If you see activity in and around the Magic Carpet, it's
not demolition crews. More likely it is engineers evaluating
relocation of the statues, or volunteers planning the huge
fund-raising event to pay for the move.

That's right. The project to move the statues to The Valley Of The
Moon is a reality, headed by our State Representative, Steve Farley.
Steve is devoted to accomplishing this project without using taxpayer
funds. That means that the amount of money we raise, and the
companies we can convince to donate services will determine how many
statues are saved from the wrecking ball.

Project spokesman Charles Spillar is promoting this project as an
international media event, because what it symbolizes will have a
positive impact far beyond The Old Pueblo.

There will be live music, food, and local celebrities. Please mark
your calendar, start saving Magic Carpet money in a jar, and spread
the word to everyone you know who's ever knocked a golf ball around a
Tiki or a Sphinx. This event is fun and important enough to justify a
drive from Phoenix, or even a cheap flight on Southwest from ______?

I asked Charlie what we at VanishingTucson can do to help. He said
for now, mainly just spread the word.

Charlie's e-mail is [email protected]

I would recommend contacting Charlie directly if:

You have contacts within companies who might donate engineering services.

You know a celebrity who wants to get involved.

You know someone who wishes to make a large donation to the Magic
Carpet project, Valley Of The Moon restoration, or both.

Mention vanishingtucson so he'll know how you found him.

Thanks everyone,

Carlos




--- In vanishingtucson@..., "meyerjohn18"
<meyerjohn18@...> wrote:

--- In vanishingtucson@..., George Cohn <george@> wrote:

thecrewaz05 wrote:

Yesterday around 1 in the afternoon I drove past Magic Carpet

and there

was a bunch of cars and people standing outside the gates. Does

anyone

know what was going on?

Same today. I had a dental appointment on Speedway and when I

drove past

MGC, there were at least six cars parked in the parking lot.

George Cohn

I was there yesterday around 3 - I saw all the cars but didn't see

any people. I have a feeling

they're just using the parking lot. Someone did trim the palo verde

tree next to the little

wooden hut on the SE corner though.

--- In vanishingtucson@..., George Cohn <george@...> wrote:

thecrewaz05 wrote:

Yesterday around 1 in the afternoon I drove past Magic Carpet and there
was a bunch of cars and people standing outside the gates. Does anyone
know what was going on?

Same today. I had a dental appointment on Speedway and when I drove past
MGC, there were at least six cars parked in the parking lot.

George Cohn

I was there yesterday around 3 - I saw all the cars but didn't see any people. I have a feeling
they're just using the parking lot. Someone did trim the palo verde tree next to the little
wooden hut on the SE corner though.

thecrewaz05 wrote:

Yesterday around 1 in the afternoon I drove past Magic Carpet and there
was a bunch of cars and people standing outside the gates. Does anyone
know what was going on?

Same today. I had a dental appointment on Speedway and when I drove past MGC, there were at least six cars parked in the parking lot.

George Cohn

Yesterday around 1 in the afternoon I drove past Magic Carpet and there
was a bunch of cars and people standing outside the gates. Does anyone
know what was going on?

diamondbacks07fan wrote:

Awesome link Ann!
Funny how those old names bring back memories!
And how some that I didn't know back in broadcasting days I have
crossed paths with professionally in other venues!
I have a few I'd like added to the list - I'll have to contact the
site owner!

While looking at the KWFM site, I ran across the name of an old friend. Jonathan Holden who was a DJ during 1970-71. Around the late '70's, I worked with him at Carondelet where he worked in the marketing and media department. He lived on the Southwest side of Tucson in a house that was a Sears and Roebuck's kit home built in the 40's!

He left Carondelet in the '80's and the last I heard, he was the director of marketing for another health care corporation in Tucson. I lost track of him after that but still see him listed in the white pages for Tucson.

He told me a lot of weird stories about the KWFM days including the fact that phrases such as "pass the bong" were common during that period. ;-)

I'm pretty sure the corporate owners would frown on such things now.

George Cohn

Awesome link Ann!

Funny how those old names bring back memories!
And how some that I didn't know back in broadcasting days I have
crossed paths with professionally in other venues!

I have a few I'd like added to the list - I'll have to contact the
site owner!

Thanks for sharing!

Also somewhere in my photo cds I have pics of two old stone houses in
the Tucson Mountains one off of Ajo and one that is part of the Trails
West III Tucson Mountain Trail - are these part of what we are looking
at as well - if so I'll post them.

The house in the Trails West area had a signature in the concrete from
I think 1926 (I would have to look at the pic again - but the name was
Karn - I tried to look at the death records for Tucson but the person
died in a nursing home so I couldn't tell if it was the same folks)

There is an interesting house near Westover between Drexel and
Valencia a man took his wife to New Orleans for their honeymoom and he
was sorry he did (as he told me jokingly) since his wife made him
built a New Orleans style house (he said he did the best he could
using what they had and his memory) it is the only two story in the
neighborhood and a bright white color- also nearby that one (there was
no zoning in this area for a long while) on Milton near Gunsight
across from Warren Elem is a Hogan house for a long time the guy who
built it lived in it but it had a for sale sign a few years ago and
now the yard looks different so I assume someone new is in it.

Son of his Father was also a Harold Bell Wright

I have a movie called "I Married Wyatt Earp" starring Marie Osmond not
sure if it was the same movie by a differnt name already on the list.

I think that one was listed as Wyatt Earp's wife.


When I was in high school I spent alot of time out at old Tucson - I
got to watch them film the Hubba Bubba commerical out there.

Also on the list of tv stuff there is Wild West Tech with the
Carridine brothers - they have filmed a few things at Old Tucson - I
knew someone who was an extra in one of the episodes.

Anyone catch Surviorman last week - he was in the Sonoran Desert in
Arizona so he was around here somewhere.

I know we went over quite a few places that closed and I forgot to
mention one - live nearby but never went-

The Triple C chuckwagon Dinners - there are now streets there named
for the Camp Family (no houses yet) but the sign is still there,
peeling but still there - should a snap a pic?

The windmill is close by - they repainted it but it is there.

Speaking of windmills there is a house near me on windmill strett
and he has a near place with windmills and old signs and a replica of
an old gas station - I took some pics from the street once did any
want to see those?

The movie was based on a book by Harold Bell Wright - he of the
Harold Bell Wright Estates near Speedway and Wilmot (where you will
find a Natachee Street the Indian in the movie) Harold Bell Wright
did do alot for Tucson while he lived here, helped build the VA
hospital and insisted that most of his movies be filmed around here
so that Tucson would get the money. As a side note one of his early
books turned into a movies was Shepard of the Hills the movie didn't
follow the book very well but it starred a very young handsome man
named John Wayne.

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "Helen" <Helengg1@...> wrote:

Don't know how I could have forgotten about this movie. "The Mine

with

the Iron Door," a silent film from 1922. I heard many times about

how

my great-grandmother's horse, "Birdie," was in it, ridden by the
heroine. But, my mother was going through my grandmother's photo
collection today and found two pictures that her mother received

after

her horse "starred" in a movie.

The movie was based on a legend that there's a gold mine in the
Catalina Mountains, with an iron door. But, it was lost in the
earthquake that struck Tucson in the mid-1890's. I asked my
grandmother if she remembered it, she did. Her last year of

primary

school was the last year the original Safford School was used. It

was

damaged in the quake and they replaced it the next year. She moved

on

to Tucson High, which still exists as Roskruge Elementary.

Hi all...Jeff Jensen here...new to the group.

Perhaps this has been discussed, but I drive by the Spanish Trail
Motel everyday and I see the garbage bins out front. Is it coming
down in it's entirety, or is there any chance for some semblance of
the old motel in some reincarnation? If it's coming down, I sure wish
Tucson could create some kind of 'sign park' along the historic Hwy 80
corridor somewhere....

And question: wasn't this place know at one time as the Tucson
Biltmor??

Thanks all!

Also found and added today. Four views of the house built by my great
grandfather, Stanley John Kitt, in 1922. It's still there, on the North
West corner of 4th Street and Olsen Avenue. It's the wide open spaces
that used to be around it that vanished.

Don't know how I could have forgotten about this movie. "The Mine with
the Iron Door," a silent film from 1922. I heard many times about how
my great-grandmother's horse, "Birdie," was in it, ridden by the
heroine. But, my mother was going through my grandmother's photo
collection today and found two pictures that her mother received after
her horse "starred" in a movie.

The movie was based on a legend that there's a gold mine in the
Catalina Mountains, with an iron door. But, it was lost in the
earthquake that struck Tucson in the mid-1890's. I asked my
grandmother if she remembered it, she did. Her last year of primary
school was the last year the original Safford School was used. It was
damaged in the quake and they replaced it the next year. She moved on
to Tucson High, which still exists as Roskruge Elementary.

--- In vanishingtucson@..., "bagbaazai" <bagbaazai@...> wrote:

--- In vanishingtucson@..., <joebuck95@> wrote:

The Cineworld 4 was great only my memories mostly date from the

'70s. I had a birthday party that included a trip to Cineworld 4 with
my friends to see "Godzilla Vs Megalon". I still have some of the
promotional pinback buttons they were handing out. (I also have the
promotional pinback from th re-release of "A Hard Day's Night" that I
saw at the Catalina) A friend of mine had a b-day party where we went
to see the '70s version of "Food of The Gods" at Cineworld 4.

At times, one of the theatres at Cineworld 4 was dedicated to adult
films. They showed "The Sex Boat" (one of those goofy parodies of
"The Love Boat") and the X-rated musical version of "Alice in
Wonderland." At least it was a place to go and see something like
that if you were in your early 20s, a woman, and didn't want to go
into a place like the Empress!

Daddy Jack's Blue Note at Speedway and Country Club. There was also a place over by the
old El Rancho called The Elite. It was a front for a prostitution business. We used to
deliver pizza's there after the girls got off work.