Thanks for the message Keith. I am in favor of changing some of the names. I just don't think it's necessary to change them all. But not such a big deal if they do. A name is just an arbitrary label assigned by humans so everybody knows what thing is being talked about. In this regard, one (non-offensive) name is as good as any other. And people will get used to the changes quickly. New field guides will be published and in ten years the issue will have faded into irrelevance.
Remember when Peregrine Falcon used to be Duck Hawk, Merlin was Pigeon Hawk, Kestrel was Sparrowhawk and Northern Harrier was Marsh Hawk? :D :D
Daniel Bastaja
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On Nov 12, 2023, at 18:34, pat.mary.taylor <pat.mary.taylor@...> wrote:
Hi Daniel
You¡¯ve really thought about this issue to come up with the Say¡¯s Phoebe. What a mess these changes would create. And for what? I for one never associate a birds name with its historic reference for instance Blackburnian was also assumed to be the colours, black and burn as in burning orange. However, I¡¯m not a historian and have no idea who Anna was in hummingbird and so and so on.
Keith Taylor
On Nov 12, 2023, at 7:53 AM, Daniel Bastaja <danielbastaja@...> wrote:
?Good point Keith. I think if they are going to change the names, they should change the Latin names as well. To the best of my knowledge Thick-billed Longspur is still Rhynchophanes mccownii. So in a way, it is still named after McCown. A job half-done. But I guess it is much tougher to change the Latin names compared to the common ones. I guess they will probably get around to that.
If they do, Say¡¯s Phoebe is going to need a whole new genus. :D
Daniel Bastaja
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On Nov 11, 2023, at 20:37, pat.mary.taylor <pat.mary.taylor@...> wrote:
So what about all those insects, plants, et cetera et cetera and the Latin names.
Keith Taylor
On Nov 11, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Ian Burgess <ianburgess18@...> wrote:
??She sums it up well! Thanks for sharing.
Ian Burgess
Vancouver
On Nov 11, 2023, at 7:39 PM, sekhon.kelly via groups.io <sekhon.kelly@...> wrote:
?Another point of view from a Corvid expert, Kaeli Swift, PhD, on Instagram:
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Kelly Sekhon
New Westminster
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