On Nov 12, 2023, at 7:53 AM, Daniel Bastaja <danielbastaja@...> wrote:

?Good point Keith. I think if they are going to change the names, they should change the Latin names as well. To the best of my knowledge Thick-billed Longspur is still Rhynchophanes mccownii. So in a way, it is still named after McCown. A job half-done. But I guess it is much tougher to change the Latin names compared to the common ones. I guess they will probably get around to that.

If they do, Say’s Phoebe is going to need a whole new genus. :D

Daniel Bastaja
danielbastaja@...

On Nov 11, 2023, at 20:37, pat.mary.taylor <pat.mary.taylor@...> wrote:

So what about all those insects, plants, et cetera et cetera and the Latin names.

Keith Taylor

On Nov 11, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Ian Burgess <ianburgess18@...> wrote:

??She sums it up well! Thanks for sharing.

Ian Burgess
Vancouver

On Nov 11, 2023, at 7:39 PM, sekhon.kelly via groups.io <sekhon.kelly@...> wrote:

?Another point of view from a Corvid expert, Kaeli Swift, PhD, on Instagram:


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On Nov 11, 2023, at 20:37, pat.mary.taylor <pat.mary.taylor@...> wrote:

So what about all those insects, plants, et cetera et cetera and the Latin names.

Keith Taylor

On Nov 11, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Ian Burgess <ianburgess18@...> wrote:

??She sums it up well! Thanks for sharing.

Ian Burgess
Vancouver

On Nov 11, 2023, at 7:39 PM, sekhon.kelly via groups.io <sekhon.kelly@...> wrote:

?Another point of view from a Corvid expert, Kaeli Swift, PhD, on Instagram:


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Kelly Sekhon
New Westminster

On Nov 11, 2023, at 17:14, sekhon.kelly via groups.io <sekhon.kelly@...> wrote:

Another point of view from a Corvid expert, Kaeli Swift, PhD, on Instagram:


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Kelly Sekhon
New Westminster

On Nov 11, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Ian Burgess <ianburgess18@...> wrote:

?

?She sums it up well! ?Thanks for sharing.

Ian Burgess

Vancouver?

On Nov 11, 2023, at 7:39 PM, sekhon.kelly via groups.io <sekhon.kelly@...> wrote:

?Another point of view from a Corvid expert,?Kaeli Swift, PhD,?on Instagram:

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Kelly Sekhon
New Westminster

On Nov 11, 2023, at 7:39 PM, sekhon.kelly via groups.io <sekhon.kelly@...> wrote:

?Another point of view from a Corvid expert,?Kaeli Swift, PhD,?on Instagram:

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Kelly Sekhon
New Westminster

On Nov 8, 2023, at 22:24, Dale Floer <dfloer@...> wrote:

To address the first part, I'd suggest that you engage with some of the marginalized birders who are advocating for the name change. I am not one of them, so any explanation I can offer isn't first hand. Discourse around this issue has been ongoing for some time, so there's ample sources on the internet. The Bird Names for Birds site is probably a good place to start:

If it doesn't really affect people, then what is the harm in making the names more descriptive, and therefore more useful? While this might mean changing some other names for birds, I'm not sure that's entirely a bad thing. I might propose ring-billed duck, because the neck ring is difficult to see when the duck isn't in hand.

To the second part, I think I already addressed that, as did the linked Sibley blog post. If we have a blanket rule against naming birds after people, then we don't need to come up with a bright line test of who is "good" and "bad". Nor do we have to worry about that line changing in the future.

-Dale Floer
Butnaby

On Wed, Nov 8, 2023, 12:50 PM Daniel Bastaja <danielbastaja@...> wrote:

Dale. You mentioned how much the current names affect some people. How much exactly does it affect some people? I think most people don't know or care where the name came from. I can’t think of any bird name that is derogatory per se. Yes… we should not name birds after slavers, or exploiters, but do people have that much of a problem with Steller, or Say, or Anna, or Wilson? Are there people out there that really feel different about themselves, who they are or what they are doing in life because of the name of a bird?

Daniel Bastaja
danielbastaja@...

On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 12:05 AM Dale Floer <dfloer@...> wrote:
Thanks for sharing. It's good to finally see some forward progress on this issue, given how much the current names affect some people and how little effect changing them has to everyone else. That part seems like an easy choice to make. What to call them instead? Not so much, though I am partial to "Stellar Jay".

I know some people aren't going to like this, but I'm not sure I've ever heard a compelling reason why notto fix the names. I've seen vague arguments about forgetting/erasing history, but that seems to misunderstand how history tends to be remembered. If that were really the case, I assume indigenous names would be preferred, as they'd have a longer history, which doesn't seem to be the case.

I also think it's wise to not name any birds after people, it neatly sidesteps the issue of whether or not a person is "good" or "bad", and it gives a chance to chose descriptive names.

-Dale Floer
Burnaby

On Tue, Nov 7, 2023, 10:56 AM Pamela Zevit via groups.io <pamela.zevit@...> wrote:
American Ornithological Society Will Change the English Names of Bird Species Named After People. “There is power in a name, and some English bird names have associations with the past that continue to be exclusionary and harmful today. We need a much more inclusive and engaging scientific process that focuses attention on the unique features and beauty of the birds themselves,” said AOS President Colleen Handel, Ph.D., a research wildlife biologist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Alaska. “Everyone who loves and cares about birds should be able to enjoy and study them freely—and birds need our help now more than ever.”

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On Nov 8, 2023, at 19:16, Veronique Martinaud <Vmartinaud04@...> wrote:

I totally agree with you, Dale.

And I would guess the people who think the renaming is ridiculous are all white! ?

Just a thought!

痴é谤辞


On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 12:05 AM Dale Floer <dfloer@...> wrote:
Thanks for sharing. It's good to finally see some forward progress on this issue, given how much the current names affect some people and how little effect changing them has to everyone else. That part seems like an easy choice to make. What to call them instead? Not so much, though I am partial to "Stellar Jay".

I know some people aren't going to like this, but I'm not sure I've ever heard a compelling reason why notto fix the names. I've seen vague arguments about forgetting/erasing history, but that seems to misunderstand how history tends to be remembered. If that were really the case, I assume indigenous names would be preferred, as they'd have a longer history, which doesn't seem to be the case.

I also think it's wise to not name any birds after people, it neatly sidesteps the issue of whether or not a person is "good" or "bad", and it gives a chance to chose descriptive names.

-Dale Floer
Burnaby

On Tue, Nov 7, 2023, 10:56 AM Pamela Zevit via groups.io <pamela.zevit@...> wrote:
American Ornithological Society Will Change the English Names of Bird Species Named After People. “There is power in a name, and some English bird names have associations with the past that continue to be exclusionary and harmful today. We need a much more inclusive and engaging scientific process that focuses attention on the unique features and beauty of the birds themselves,” said AOS President Colleen Handel, Ph.D., a research wildlife biologist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Alaska. “Everyone who loves and cares about birds should be able to enjoy and study them freely—and birds need our help now more than ever.”

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On Nov 8, 2023, at 08:45, ValerieFuller <ungulate@...> wrote:

Isn't modern sensibilities v. back then what the AOU are talking about? My analogy was simply: what's the difference between saying it was o.k. to shoot birds for specimens or the millinery trade back then but not now, and it was o.k. to own slaves back then but not now. Both things were considered acceptable at the time. It's political correctness running amok.

Valerie Fuller



On 11/07/23 11:04 PM, "Daniel Bastaja" <danielbastaja@...> wrote:

Keith makes a point. That was birding in the 18th and 19th century. You would go out with a gun and shoot stuff. I think most (if not all) of the “naturalists" of that time did it. Of course it is awful to think about from the standpoint of our modern sensibilites, but this was before handy consumer binoculars, telescopes, cameras, field guides, mist nets, banding, GPS trackers, etc. Also, at that time they weren’t as environmentally conscious. Nature was considered an inexhaustable resource for man’s exploitation. We now know there are limits, but I don't think people thought about this at the time. And, as Keith said, collecting is still a useful part of the scientific regimen.

Anyway, I think renaming is a good idea for some birds, but they are taking it too far.

Somebody on “X” suggested changing the name of Steller’s Jay to Stellar Jay. Proiblem solved! :D :D :D

Daniel Bastaja
danielbastaja@...

On Nov 8, 2023, at 03:47, pat.mary.taylor <pat.mary.taylor@...> wrote:

What does collecting have to do with being bad? Every person who has had a job with a museum or university collects, it’s part of the job. I have collected thousands of birds in my past career working at the university of Queensland and the BC provincial museum.

Keith Taylor

On Nov 7, 2023, at 5:38 PM, ValerieFuller <ungulate@...> wrote:

?I agree with you, Daniel.

I think it's a flawed idea at best. We would certainly have to ban anything Audubon, wouldn't we? After all, he shot all of his specimens, didn't he? How about Lewis & Clarke? Were they bad guys too? And who are these demi-Gods who make the decisions for all of us as to what is good or bad? I understand Anna's Hummingbird is on the chopping block. I'll bet not one in a thousand birders know nor care who Anna was. Has the AOU nothing better to do for our failing planet?

Valerie Fuller



On 11/07/23 12:44 PM, "Daniel Bastaja" <danielbastaja@...> wrote:

Thanks for the link Pamela.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with naming birds after people as long as those people weren’t slaveholders, colonialists, militarists or exploiters. Thomas Say was a quaker. Georg Wilhelm Steller was an explorer and naturalist who was very sympathetic to the indigenous populations of Kamchatka (earning the hostility of the Imperial Russian government for helping these people). So we are going to replace these cool names with boring anodyne names to appease social justice warriors?

Then there is the question of the scientific names. McCown’s Longspur may now be Thick-billed Longspur, but I believe the specific epithet is still mccownii. So, in a way, it is STILL named after McCown. What about the Say’s Phoebe? Both the generic and specific epithet are named after Thomas Say. Are they going to change that?

The other thing that occured to me is that I think the world authority on bird taxonomy is the International Ornithologists Union and the International Ornithological Congress. Are they going to accept and follow the AOU’s lead on this? If they do, wouldn’t it be like ceding their authority to the Americans? Would it create a precedent? Every time the AOU decides to change something, the IOU and IOC have to go along with it? Just a thought.

Anyway, this is just my opinion. I know it may not be popular and I admit I don’t know the whole story or how these things actually work.

Daniel Bastaja
danielbastaja@...

On Nov 7, 2023, at 19:56, Pamela Zevit via groups.io <pamela.zevit@...> wrote:

American Ornithological Society Will Change the English Names of Bird Species Named After People. “There is power in a name, and some English bird names have associations with the past that continue to be exclusionary and harmful today. We need a much more inclusive and engaging scientific process that focuses attention on the unique features and beauty of the birds themselves,” said AOS President Colleen Handel, Ph.D., a research wildlife biologist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Alaska. “Everyone who loves and cares about birds should be able to enjoy and study them freely—and birds need our help now more than ever.”

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<image002.png>

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Cheers,
Val Fuller,
Ladner, B. C.

Keith makes a point. That was birding in the 18th and 19th century. You would go out with a gun and shoot stuff. I think most (if not all) of the “naturalists" of that time did it. Of course it is awful to think about from the standpoint of our modern sensibilites, but this was before handy consumer binoculars, telescopes, cameras, field guides, mist nets, banding, GPS trackers, etc. Also, at that time they weren’t as environmentally conscious. Nature was considered an inexhaustable resource for man’s exploitation. We now know there are limits, but I don't think people thought about this at the time. And, as Keith said, collecting is still a useful part of the scientific regimen.

Anyway, I think renaming is a good idea for some birds, but they are taking it too far.

Somebody on “X” suggested changing the name of Steller’s Jay to Stellar Jay. Proiblem solved! :D :D :D

Daniel Bastaja
danielbastaja@...

> On Nov 8, 2023, at 03:47, pat.mary.taylor <pat.mary.taylor@...> wrote:
>
> What does collecting have to do with being bad? Every person who has had a job with a museum or university collects, it’s part of the job. I have collected thousands of birds in my past career working at the university of Queensland and the BC provincial museum.
>
> Keith Taylor
>
>
>> On Nov 7, 2023, at 5:38 PM, ValerieFuller <ungulate@...> wrote:
>>
>> ?I agree with you, Daniel.
>>
>> I think it's a flawed idea at best.? We would certainly have to ban anything Audubon, wouldn't we?? After all, he shot all of his specimens, didn't he?? How about Lewis & Clarke?? Were they bad guys too?? And who are these demi-Gods who make the decisions for all of us as to what is good or bad?? I understand Anna's Hummingbird is on the chopping block.? I'll bet not one in a thousand birders know nor care who Anna was.? Has the AOU nothing better to do for our failing planet?
>>
>> Valerie Fuller
>>
>>??
>>
>> On 11/07/23 12:44 PM, "Daniel Bastaja" <danielbastaja@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the link Pamela.
>>>
>>> I don’t think there is anything wrong with naming birds after people as long as those people weren’t slaveholders, colonialists, militarists or exploiters. Thomas Say was a quaker. Georg Wilhelm Steller was an explorer and naturalist who was very sympathetic to the indigenous populations of Kamchatka (earning the hostility of the Imperial Russian government for helping these people). So we are going to replace these cool names with boring anodyne names to appease social justice warriors?
>>>
>>> Then there is the question of the scientific names. McCown’s Longspur may now be Thick-billed Longspur, but I believe the specific epithet is still mccownii. So, in a way, it is STILL named after McCown. What about the Say’s Phoebe? Both the generic and specific epithet are named after Thomas Say. Are they going to change that?
>>>
>>> The other thing that occured to me is that I think the world authority on bird taxonomy is the International Ornithologists Union and the International Ornithological Congress. Are they going to accept and follow the AOU’s lead on this? If they do, wouldn’t it be like ceding their authority to the Americans? Would it create a precedent? Every time the AOU decides to change something, the IOU and IOC have to go along with it? Just a thought.?
>>>
>>> Anyway, this is just my opinion. I know it may not be popular and I admit I don’t know the whole story or how these things actually work.
>>>
>>> Daniel Bastaja
>>> danielbastaja@...
>>>
>>> > On Nov 7, 2023, at 19:56, Pamela Zevit via groups.io <pamela.zevit@...> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > American Ornithological Society Will Change the English Names of Bird Species Named After People. “There is power in a name, and some English bird names have associations with the past that continue to be exclusionary and harmful today. We need a much more inclusive and engaging scientific process that focuses attention on the unique features and beauty of the birds themselves,” said AOS President Colleen Handel, Ph.D., a research wildlife biologist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Alaska. “Everyone who loves and cares about birds should be able to enjoy and study them freely—and birds need our help now more than ever.”
>>> >
>>> > Pamela Zevit RPBio | Biodiversity Conservation Planner
>>> > <image001.png> T 604.590.7254
>>> > Check out how we are conserving biodiversity in Surrey
>>> > As a second generation settler, I am a privileged guest working on the shared traditional lands (tém:éxw) of the s?myám? (Semiahmoo), sq??c?iy?a?? (Katzie), K?ik?????m (Kwikwetlem), q??ɑ:n????n? (Kwantlen), Qiqéyt (Qayqayt), Sc??waθ?n (Tsawwassen) and x?m?θk??y??m (Musqueam).
>>> >? <image002.png>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Val Fuller,
>> Ladner, B. C.
>
>

On Nov 8, 2023, at 03:47, pat.mary.taylor <pat.mary.taylor@...> wrote:

What does collecting have to do with being bad? Every person who has had a job with a museum or university collects, it’s part of the job. I have collected thousands of birds in my past career working at the university of Queensland and the BC provincial museum.

Keith Taylor

On Nov 7, 2023, at 5:38 PM, ValerieFuller <ungulate@...> wrote:

?I agree with you, Daniel.

I think it's a flawed idea at best. We would certainly have to ban anything Audubon, wouldn't we? After all, he shot all of his specimens, didn't he? How about Lewis & Clarke? Were they bad guys too? And who are these demi-Gods who make the decisions for all of us as to what is good or bad? I understand Anna's Hummingbird is on the chopping block. I'll bet not one in a thousand birders know nor care who Anna was. Has the AOU nothing better to do for our failing planet?

Valerie Fuller



On 11/07/23 12:44 PM, "Daniel Bastaja" <danielbastaja@...> wrote:

Thanks for the link Pamela.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with naming birds after people as long as those people weren’t slaveholders, colonialists, militarists or exploiters. Thomas Say was a quaker. Georg Wilhelm Steller was an explorer and naturalist who was very sympathetic to the indigenous populations of Kamchatka (earning the hostility of the Imperial Russian government for helping these people). So we are going to replace these cool names with boring anodyne names to appease social justice warriors?

Then there is the question of the scientific names. McCown’s Longspur may now be Thick-billed Longspur, but I believe the specific epithet is still mccownii. So, in a way, it is STILL named after McCown. What about the Say’s Phoebe? Both the generic and specific epithet are named after Thomas Say. Are they going to change that?

The other thing that occured to me is that I think the world authority on bird taxonomy is the International Ornithologists Union and the International Ornithological Congress. Are they going to accept and follow the AOU’s lead on this? If they do, wouldn’t it be like ceding their authority to the Americans? Would it create a precedent? Every time the AOU decides to change something, the IOU and IOC have to go along with it? Just a thought.

Anyway, this is just my opinion. I know it may not be popular and I admit I don’t know the whole story or how these things actually work.

Daniel Bastaja
danielbastaja@...

On Nov 7, 2023, at 19:56, Pamela Zevit via groups.io <pamela.zevit@...> wrote:

American Ornithological Society Will Change the English Names of Bird Species Named After People. “There is power in a name, and some English bird names have associations with the past that continue to be exclusionary and harmful today. We need a much more inclusive and engaging scientific process that focuses attention on the unique features and beauty of the birds themselves,” said AOS President Colleen Handel, Ph.D., a research wildlife biologist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Alaska. “Everyone who loves and cares about birds should be able to enjoy and study them freely—and birds need our help now more than ever.”

Pamela Zevit RPBio | Biodiversity Conservation Planner
<image001.png> T 604.590.7254
Check out how we are conserving biodiversity in Surrey
As a second generation settler, I am a privileged guest working on the shared traditional lands (tém:éxw) of the s?myám? (Semiahmoo), sq??c?iy?a?? (Katzie), K?ik?????m (Kwikwetlem), q??ɑ:n????n? (Kwantlen), Qiqéyt (Qayqayt), Sc??waθ?n (Tsawwassen) and x?m?θk??y??m (Musqueam).
<image002.png>

--
Cheers,
Val Fuller,
Ladner, B. C.

On Nov 7, 2023, at 5:38 PM, ValerieFuller <ungulate@...> wrote:

?I agree with you, Daniel.

I think it's a flawed idea at best.? We would certainly have to ban anything Audubon, wouldn't we?? After all, he shot all of his specimens, didn't he?? How about Lewis & Clarke?? Were they bad guys too?? And who are these demi-Gods who make the decisions for all of us as to what is good or bad?? I understand Anna's Hummingbird is on the chopping block.? I'll bet not one in a thousand birders know nor care who Anna was.? Has the AOU nothing better to do for our failing planet?

Valerie Fuller

??

On 11/07/23 12:44 PM, "Daniel Bastaja" <danielbastaja@...> wrote:

Thanks for the link Pamela.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with naming birds after people as long as those people weren’t slaveholders, colonialists, militarists or exploiters. Thomas Say was a quaker. Georg Wilhelm Steller was an explorer and naturalist who was very sympathetic to the indigenous populations of Kamchatka (earning the hostility of the Imperial Russian government for helping these people). So we are going to replace these cool names with boring anodyne names to appease social justice warriors?

Then there is the question of the scientific names. McCown’s Longspur may now be Thick-billed Longspur, but I believe the specific epithet is still mccownii. So, in a way, it is STILL named after McCown. What about the Say’s Phoebe? Both the generic and specific epithet are named after Thomas Say. Are they going to change that?

The other thing that occured to me is that I think the world authority on bird taxonomy is the International Ornithologists Union and the International Ornithological Congress. Are they going to accept and follow the AOU’s lead on this? If they do, wouldn’t it be like ceding their authority to the Americans? Would it create a precedent? Every time the AOU decides to change something, the IOU and IOC have to go along with it? Just a thought.?

Anyway, this is just my opinion. I know it may not be popular and I admit I don’t know the whole story or how these things actually work.

Daniel Bastaja
danielbastaja@...

> On Nov 7, 2023, at 19:56, Pamela Zevit via groups.io <pamela.zevit@...> wrote:
>
> American Ornithological Society Will Change the English Names of Bird Species Named After People. “There is power in a name, and some English bird names have associations with the past that continue to be exclusionary and harmful today. We need a much more inclusive and engaging scientific process that focuses attention on the unique features and beauty of the birds themselves,” said AOS President Colleen Handel, Ph.D., a research wildlife biologist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Alaska. “Everyone who loves and cares about birds should be able to enjoy and study them freely—and birds need our help now more than ever.”
>
> Pamela Zevit RPBio | Biodiversity Conservation Planner
> <image001.png> T 604.590.7254
> Check out how we are conserving biodiversity in Surrey
> As a second generation settler, I am a privileged guest working on the shared traditional lands (tém:éxw) of the s?myám? (Semiahmoo), sq??c?iy?a?? (Katzie), K?ik?????m (Kwikwetlem), q??ɑ:n????n? (Kwantlen), Qiqéyt (Qayqayt), Sc??waθ?n (Tsawwassen) and x?m?θk??y??m (Musqueam).
>? <image002.png>

--
Cheers,
Val Fuller,
Ladner, B. C.

Thanks for the link Pamela.

I don’t think there is anything wrong with naming birds after people as long as those people weren’t slaveholders, colonialists, militarists or exploiters. Thomas Say was a quaker. Georg Wilhelm Steller was an explorer and naturalist who was very sympathetic to the indigenous populations of Kamchatka (earning the hostility of the Imperial Russian government for helping these people). So we are going to replace these cool names with boring anodyne names to appease social justice warriors?

Then there is the question of the scientific names. McCown’s Longspur may now be Thick-billed Longspur, but I believe the specific epithet is still mccownii. So, in a way, it is STILL named after McCown. What about the Say’s Phoebe? Both the generic and specific epithet are named after Thomas Say. Are they going to change that?

The other thing that occured to me is that I think the world authority on bird taxonomy is the International Ornithologists Union and the International Ornithological Congress. Are they going to accept and follow the AOU’s lead on this? If they do, wouldn’t it be like ceding their authority to the Americans? Would it create a precedent? Every time the AOU decides to change something, the IOU and IOC have to go along with it? Just a thought.?

Anyway, this is just my opinion. I know it may not be popular and I admit I don’t know the whole story or how these things actually work.

Daniel Bastaja
danielbastaja@...

> On Nov 7, 2023, at 19:56, Pamela Zevit via groups.io <pamela.zevit@...> wrote:
>
> American Ornithological Society Will Change the English Names of Bird Species Named After People. “There is power in a name, and some English bird names have associations with the past that continue to be exclusionary and harmful today. We need a much more inclusive and engaging scientific process that focuses attention on the unique features and beauty of the birds themselves,” said AOS President Colleen Handel, Ph.D., a research wildlife biologist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Alaska. “Everyone who loves and cares about birds should be able to enjoy and study them freely—and birds need our help now more than ever.”
>
> Pamela Zevit RPBio | Biodiversity Conservation Planner
> <image001.png> T 604.590.7254
> Check out how we are conserving biodiversity in Surrey
> As a second generation settler, I am a privileged guest working on the shared traditional lands (tém:éxw) of the s?myám? (Semiahmoo), sq??c?iy?a?? (Katzie), K?ik?????m (Kwikwetlem), q??ɑ:n????n? (Kwantlen), Qiqéyt (Qayqayt), Sc??waθ?n (Tsawwassen) and x?m?θk??y??m (Musqueam).
>? <image002.png>