Results for BC Bird of the Year - 2023 Edition
In what was the tightest race in years, up until this past weekend that is, we finally had a clear winner break out ahead for the win.??
Votes were nicely spread out between 12 different candidates this year, which is higher than usual, and an indication of just how many great birds were found this year.?
#1 with 29% of the votes - Pinyon Jay
#2 with 19% of the votes - Pallas's Bunting?
#3 with 12% of the votes - Summer Tanager?
So West Van's very obliging Jay wears the crown this year. Hopefully you got to see it. It's not too late if you haven't.?
2024 is already off to a decent start.?It feels like it may be a Gray Wagtail or a Tropicbird kind of year doesn't it?
It's good to have goals.?
Kevin Neill
Victoria, BC??
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Danny Tyson re Garganey photo
If Danny Tyson is reading this, could you send me the photo of the Garganey you took at Campbell River? This if the image is recognizable compared to that in your ebird report. Is for the free online birds of Vancouver Island.
Keith Taylor
Victoria BC
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BC Bird of the Year - 2023 Edition
Hello again BC Birders. Another outstanding year for interesting birds in BC is quickly coming to a close. As usual it started out rather quietly until May came along, which peppered us with some great treats, and it really hasn't stopped since then.
As always this list is not exhaustive and is completely subjective, so if you'd prefer to vote for a bird not on this list please, please, please feel free to do so.
Fieldfare - Jan - Kelowna - 3rd BC record
Black-tailed Gull - May - Colwood - 4th BC record
White-tailed Kite - May - Langley
Field Sparrow - May - Fairmont Hot Springs - 4th BC record?
Bristle-thighed Curlew - May - Haida Gwaii - 4th BC record
Red-faced Cormorant - May - Hecate Strait - 1st photo doc?
White-eyed Vireo - June - Ucluelet - 2nd BC record
Cave Swallow - June - Port Alberni - 2nd BC record?
Nazca Booby - July & Oct - Haida Gwaii area - 4th/5th? BC record
Scissor-tailed Flycatcher - Aug - Whistler?
Reed/Pallas's Bunting - Sept - Squamish - 1st Canadian record
Pallas's Bunting - Oct - Victoria - 1st/2nd? Canadian record?
Summer Tanager - Nov/Dec - North Saanich?
Green-tailed Towhee - Nov - Denman Isl/Jordan River?
Baikal Teal (Probable) - Nov - Sarita - 3rd BC record
Great Black-backed Gull - Dec - Penticton/Vernon - 4th BC record
Pinyon Jay - Oct/Dec - West Van - 2nd BC record
Please do not submit your vote on this forum, but rather please do send me an email instead at?
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Thanks and good birding eh.?
Kevin Neill
Victoria, BC??
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Yes¡ I agree Christine. It would be good if those stores got more on board with this. At least spreading awareness of the problem.
Daniel Bastaja
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On Dec 20, 2023, at 20:17, CHRISTINE BISHOP <yellow.b.chat@...> wrote:
Sure would be nice if all the Wild Birds unlimited stores would 'buy' in to products that actually work to reduce collisions. I know the Broadway store carries feather friendly.com product but I have asked many times at two other stores to no avail.
Perhaps we need to keep asking?
Christine Bishop
On Mon, Dec 18, 2023, 10:49 p.m. Daniel Bastaja <danielbastaja@...> wrote:
Derek¡. thanks for sharing those slides. Nice!
My experience is that the average member of the public is indifferent about these issues. They are either not aware or just don't care. It¡¯s a long slog to change those attitudes, but I think VARC is making an impact with its outreach programs and presentations like this. Well done!
Daniel Bastaja
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On Dec 17, 2023, at 20:33, Derek Matthews <derek@...> wrote:
Hi Dan,
Thanks for posting this.
I was invited to speak to the Metro Vancouver Regional Planning Committee ¨C Environment sub-Committee last month as some of the local governments had expressed an interest in hearing about how they can better design buildings to mitigate bird strikes.
My talk was titled ¡®Biodiversity ¨C Threats Facing Birds¡¯ where I spoke about the state of the world¡¯s birds and the things that can be done immediately to help birds and the environment. This included addressing window strikes at both residential and commercial buildings, a lights out Vancouver strategy during migration, a No Roam Bylaw & Enforcement for free-roaming cats (which 92 Municipalities in Canada have but we don¡¯t here in Vancouver!), the huge potential to support birds and other wildlife with bird friendly gardens by replacing lawns with native plants, and I also ask the members of the committee to drink Bird Friendly Shade Grown Coffee in their offices and homes.
I have attached a PDF copy of the deck I used for anyone interested.
Happy Christmas Vanbirders!
Derek<image003.png>
Derek J. Matthews
Chairman, Director Communication
NABC Certified Trainer
Vancouver Avian Research Centre
Registered Canadian Charity #82118 2656 RR0001
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T: (604) 218-1191
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Sent: December 15, 2023 6:37 AM
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Subject: [vanbcbirds] Bird collisions
Article about bird collisions with windows.
Daniel Bastaja
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Sure would be nice if all the Wild Birds unlimited stores would 'buy' in to products that actually work to reduce collisions. I know the Broadway store carries feather product but? I have asked many times at? two other stores to no avail.?
Perhaps we need to keep asking?? Christine Bishop
Derek¡. thanks for sharing those slides. Nice!
My experience is that the average member of the public is indifferent about these issues. They are either not aware or just don't care. It¡¯s a long slog to change those attitudes, but I think VARC is making an impact with its outreach programs and presentations like this. Well done!
Daniel Bastaja
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> On Dec 17, 2023, at 20:33, Derek Matthews <derek@...> wrote:
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> Hi Dan,
>? Thanks for posting this.
>? I was invited to speak to the Metro Vancouver Regional Planning Committee ¨C Environment sub-Committee last month as some of the local governments had expressed an interest in hearing about how they can better design buildings to mitigate bird strikes.
>? My talk was titled ¡®Biodiversity ¨C Threats Facing Birds¡¯ where I spoke about the state of the world¡¯s birds and the things that can be done immediately to help birds and the environment. This included addressing window strikes at both residential and commercial buildings, a lights out Vancouver strategy during migration, a No Roam Bylaw & Enforcement for free-roaming cats (which 92 Municipalities in Canada have but we don¡¯t here in Vancouver!), the huge potential to support birds and other wildlife with bird friendly gardens by replacing lawns with native plants, and I also ask the members of the committee to drink Bird Friendly Shade Grown Coffee in their offices and homes.
>? I have attached a PDF copy of the deck I used for anyone interested.
>? Happy Christmas Vanbirders!
>? Derek<image003.png>
> Derek J. Matthews
> Chairman,? Director Communication
> NABC Certified Trainer
> Vancouver Avian Research Centre
> Registered Canadian Charity #82118 2656 RR0001
> 4115, East Braemar Road, North Vancouver, BC, V7K 3C9
> T: (604) 218-1191
> E: Derek@...
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> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Daniel Bastaja
> Sent: December 15, 2023 6:37 AM
> To: Vanbirds <[email protected]>
> Subject: [vanbcbirds] Bird collisions
>? Article about bird collisions with windows.?
>? Daniel Bastaja
> danielbastaja@...
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Thanks for that article Derek. It¡¯s good that the issue is getting more publicity.
Daniel Bastaja
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On Dec 20, 2023, at 16:53, Derek Matthews <derek@...> wrote:
Thanks Dan,
On the same topic of threats facing birds, more damning evidence of the effect of free roaming cats on birds and other wildlife ¨C how much more proof do we need to ban ALL free-roaming cats in Canada?!! <image002.jpg>Killer kitties: cats are eating 2,000 species, including hundreds that are at risk
theguardian.com
Derek J. Matthews
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Daniel Bastaja
Sent: December 19, 2023 3:49 AM
To: Vanbirds <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [vanbcbirds] Bird collisions
Derek¡. thanks for sharing those slides. Nice! My experience is that the average member of the public is indifferent about these issues. They are either not aware or just don't care. It¡¯s a long slog to change those attitudes, but I think VARC is making an impact with its outreach programs and presentations like this. Well done!
Daniel Bastaja
danielbastaja@... <mailto:danielbastaja@...> > On Dec 17, 2023, at 20:33, Derek Matthews <derek@...> wrote:
Hi Dan, Thanks for posting this.
I was invited to speak to the Metro Vancouver Regional Planning Committee ¨C Environment sub-Committee last month as some of the local governments had expressed an interest in hearing about how they can better design buildings to mitigate bird strikes.
My talk was titled ¡®Biodiversity ¨C Threats Facing Birds¡¯ where I spoke about the state of the world¡¯s birds and the things that can be done immediately to help birds and the environment. This included addressing window strikes at both residential and commercial buildings, a lights out Vancouver strategy during migration, a No Roam Bylaw & Enforcement for free-roaming cats (which 92 Municipalities in Canada have but we don¡¯t here in Vancouver!), the huge potential to support birds and other wildlife with bird friendly gardens by replacing lawns with native plants, and I also ask the members of the committee to drink Bird Friendly Shade Grown Coffee in their offices and homes.
I have attached a PDF copy of the deck I used for anyone interested.
Happy Christmas Vanbirders!
Derek<image003.png>
Derek J. Matthews
Chairman, Director Communication
NABC Certified Trainer
Vancouver Avian Research Centre
Registered Canadian Charity #82118 2656 RR0001 4115, East Braemar > Road, North Vancouver, BC, V7K 3C9
T: (604) 218-1191
E: Derek@...
W: www.birdvancouver.com
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Daniel Bastaja
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Thanks Dan, ? On the same topic of threats facing birds, more damning evidence of the effect of free roaming cats on birds and other wildlife ¨C how much more proof do we need to ban ALL free-roaming cats in Canada?!! ? ? Derek J. Matthews? T: (604) 218-1191 E: Derek@... ? ?
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Subject: Re: [vanbcbirds] Bird collisions ? Derek¡. thanks for sharing those slides. Nice! ? My experience is that the average member of the public is indifferent about these issues. They are either not aware or just don't care. It¡¯s a long slog to change those attitudes, but I think VARC is making an impact with its outreach programs and presentations like this. Well done! ? Daniel Bastaja danielbastaja@... <mailto:danielbastaja@...> ? > On Dec 17, 2023, at 20:33, Derek Matthews <derek@...> wrote: > > Hi Dan, >? Thanks for posting this. >? I was invited to speak to the Metro Vancouver Regional Planning Committee ¨C Environment sub-Committee last month as some of the local governments had expressed an interest in hearing about how they can better design buildings to mitigate bird strikes. >? My talk was titled ¡®Biodiversity ¨C Threats Facing Birds¡¯ where I spoke about the state of the world¡¯s birds and the things that can be done immediately to help birds and the environment. This included addressing window strikes at both residential and commercial buildings, a lights out Vancouver strategy during migration, a No Roam Bylaw & Enforcement for free-roaming cats (which 92 Municipalities in Canada have but we don¡¯t here in Vancouver!), the huge potential to support birds and other wildlife with bird friendly gardens by replacing lawns with native plants, and I also ask the members of the committee to drink Bird Friendly Shade Grown Coffee in their offices and homes. >? I have attached a PDF copy of the deck I used for anyone interested. >? Happy Christmas Vanbirders! >? Derek<image003.png> > Derek J. Matthews > Chairman,? Director Communication > NABC Certified Trainer > Vancouver Avian Research Centre > Registered Canadian Charity #82118 2656 RR0001 4115, East Braemar > Road, North Vancouver, BC, V7K 3C9 > T: (604) 218-1191 > E: Derek@... > W: >??????????? -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Daniel > Bastaja > Sent: December 15, 2023 6:37 AM > To: Vanbirds <[email protected]> > Subject: [vanbcbirds] Bird collisions >? Article about bird collisions with windows.? > > re/index.html >? Daniel Bastaja > danielbastaja@... >??? <RPAC.pdf> ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Derek¡. thanks for sharing those slides. Nice!
My experience is that the average member of the public is indifferent about these issues. They are either not aware or just don't care. It¡¯s a long slog to change those attitudes, but I think VARC is making an impact with its outreach programs and presentations like this. Well done!
Daniel Bastaja
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On Dec 17, 2023, at 20:33, Derek Matthews <derek@...> wrote:
Hi Dan,
Thanks for posting this.
I was invited to speak to the Metro Vancouver Regional Planning Committee ¨C Environment sub-Committee last month as some of the local governments had expressed an interest in hearing about how they can better design buildings to mitigate bird strikes.
My talk was titled ¡®Biodiversity ¨C Threats Facing Birds¡¯ where I spoke about the state of the world¡¯s birds and the things that can be done immediately to help birds and the environment. This included addressing window strikes at both residential and commercial buildings, a lights out Vancouver strategy during migration, a No Roam Bylaw & Enforcement for free-roaming cats (which 92 Municipalities in Canada have but we don¡¯t here in Vancouver!), the huge potential to support birds and other wildlife with bird friendly gardens by replacing lawns with native plants, and I also ask the members of the committee to drink Bird Friendly Shade Grown Coffee in their offices and homes.
I have attached a PDF copy of the deck I used for anyone interested.
Happy Christmas Vanbirders!
Derek<image003.png>
Derek J. Matthews
Chairman, Director Communication
NABC Certified Trainer
Vancouver Avian Research Centre
Registered Canadian Charity #82118 2656 RR0001
4115, East Braemar Road, North Vancouver, BC, V7K 3C9
T: (604) 218-1191
E: Derek@...
W: www.birdvancouver.com
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Daniel Bastaja
Sent: December 15, 2023 6:37 AM
To: Vanbirds <[email protected]>
Subject: [vanbcbirds] Bird collisions
Article about bird collisions with windows.
Daniel Bastaja
danielbastaja@...
<RPAC.pdf>
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Hi Dan, ? Thanks for posting this. ? I was invited to speak to the Metro Vancouver Regional Planning Committee ¨C Environment sub-Committee last month as some of the local governments had expressed an interest in hearing about how they can better design buildings to mitigate bird strikes. ? My talk was titled ¡®Biodiversity ¨C Threats Facing Birds¡¯ where I spoke about the state of the world¡¯s birds and the things that can be done immediately to help birds and the environment. This included addressing window strikes at both residential and commercial buildings, a lights out Vancouver strategy during migration, a No Roam Bylaw & Enforcement for free-roaming cats (which 92 Municipalities in Canada have but we don¡¯t here in Vancouver!), the huge potential to support birds and other wildlife with bird friendly gardens by replacing lawns with native plants, and I also ask the members of the committee to drink Bird Friendly Shade Grown Coffee in their offices and homes. ? I have attached a PDF copy of the deck I used for anyone interested. ? Happy Christmas Vanbirders! ? Derek 
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Article about bird collisions with windows.
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I thought this article might be of interest to some members of the group. I know this kind of thing goes on because years ago, an acquaintance in Hungary bought a Northern Cardinal at a pet store¡ something I am reasonably sure he wouldn¡¯t have been able to do in North America.
Daniel Bastaja
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Responding to an Ecological Disaster - 2020 migratory avifauna die-off event
Along with all the other stressors pushing avifauna over the edge, we¡¯re likely still seeing the ramifications of this ¡®hit¡¯ from 2020.
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¡°Back in 2020, people in New Mexico began to notice something alarming: wild birds were dying ¡ª by the hundreds of thousands. Researchers set out to identify the cause, but also to do something with a longer-term impact: training potential
future scientists to understand what was happening.¡± ?
Pamela Zevit RPBio | Biodiversity Conservation Planner
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As a second generation settler, I am a privileged guest working on the shared traditional lands (t¨¦m:¨¦xw) of the s?my¨¢m? (Semiahmoo), q??c?iy?a?? (Katzie), K?ik?????m
(Kwikwetlem), q??¨»:n????n? (Kwantlen), Qiq¨¦yt (Qayqayt), Sc??wa¦È?n (Tsawwassen) and x?m?¦Èk??y??m (Musqueam).
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This is not Marlene
Later,
Roy
https://www.flickr.com/photos/north_country_photography/
From: "pat.mary.taylor" <pat.mary.taylor@...> To: "vanbcbirds" < [email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2023 8:36:24 AM Subject: [vanbcbirds] Marlene Mitchell
Hi Marlene
If you¡¯re reading this, I¡¯m asking for permission to use your Pygmy Nuthatch photo from Ross Bay Cemetery last week to include in the free online Birds of Vancouver Island. It¡¯s the best photo taken here on the island. It would greatly appreciated.
Keith Taylor
Victoria BC
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Hi Marlene
If you¡¯re reading this, I¡¯m asking for permission to use your Pygmy Nuthatch photo from Ross Bay Cemetery last week to include in the free online Birds of Vancouver Island. It¡¯s the best photo taken here on the island. It would greatly appreciated.
Keith Taylor
Victoria BC
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The Naturalist and the Wonderful, Lovable, So Good, Very Bold Jay
¡°Little was known of Canada jays before Dan Strickland took an interest 50 years ago. At the time, only a few examples of their notoriously hard-to-find nests had ever been described. Now, Strickland is perhaps the world¡¯s foremost authority.
As a naturalist at Ontario¡¯s Algonquin Provincial Park, he studied the birds in his spare time until he retired in 2000. Since then, they¡¯ve become his obsession. On his list of unsolved mysteries is determining what distinguishes these Pacific Canada jays
from other Canada jays, whether they are in fact a distinct species, and if they, like their cousins in Algonquin Provincial Park, are in danger of becoming casualties of the climate crisis.¡±
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Pamela Zevit RPBio | Biodiversity Conservation Planner
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T 604.590.7254
As a second generation settler, I am a privileged guest working on the shared traditional lands (t¨¦m:¨¦xw) of the s?my¨¢m? (Semiahmoo), sq??c?iy?a?? (Katzie), K?ik?????m
(Kwikwetlem), q??¨»:n????n? (Kwantlen), Qiq¨¦yt (Qayqayt), Sc??wa¦È?n (Tsawwassen) and x?m?¦Èk??y??m (Musqueam).
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Re: question re viewing birds at the ferry jetty
Thank you!!? ---
Paul Kendal?
604-671-6167?
typed on a phone, which should explain any weirdness beyond the usual
Hi Paul,? There¡¯s a small pullout a few hundred meters before the main parking lot, used by taxis.? This is a screenshot from Google Earth, that I put a pin on. Good luck! Colin Clasen Coquitlam, BC
On Nov 18, 2023, at 11:16?PM, Paul Kendal <pkendal@...> wrote:
? Hi, I'd like to visit the ferry terminal jetty at some point, and I'm wondering what the best parking situation would be to see the birds in the compensation lagoon? Thanks,
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Re: question re viewing birds at the ferry jetty
Hi Paul,? There¡¯s a small pullout a few hundred meters before the main parking lot, used by taxis.? This is a screenshot from Google Earth, that I put a pin on. Good luck! Colin Clasen Coquitlam, BC
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? Hi, I'd like to visit the ferry terminal jetty at some point, and I'm wondering what the best parking situation would be to see the birds in the compensation lagoon? Thanks,
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question re viewing birds at the ferry jetty
Hi, I'd like to visit the ferry terminal jetty at some point, and I'm wondering what the best parking situation would be to see the birds in the compensation lagoon? Thanks,
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Re: Update on (re)naming from the AOS: Anna's hummingbird
Anna's Hummingbird! This bird was?named after the 19th-century Italian duchess Anna Massena.
Thanks for the message Keith. I am in favor of changing some of the names. I just don't think it's necessary to change them all. But not such a big deal if they do. A name is just an arbitrary label assigned by humans so everybody knows what thing is being talked about. In this regard, one (non-offensive) name is as good as any other. And people will get used to the changes quickly. New field guides will be published and in ten years the issue will have faded into irrelevance.
Remember when Peregrine Falcon used to be Duck Hawk, Merlin was Pigeon Hawk, Kestrel was Sparrowhawk and Northern Harrier was Marsh Hawk? :D :D
Daniel Bastaja
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> On Nov 12, 2023, at 18:34, pat.mary.taylor <pat.mary.taylor@...> wrote:
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> Hi Daniel
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> You¡¯ve really thought about this issue to come up with the Say¡¯s Phoebe. What a mess these changes would create. And for what? I for one never associate a birds name with its historic reference for instance Blackburnian was also assumed to be the colours, black and burn as in burning orange. However, I¡¯m not a historian and have no idea who Anna was in hummingbird and so and so on.
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> Keith Taylor
>> On Nov 12, 2023, at 7:53 AM, Daniel Bastaja <danielbastaja@...> wrote:
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>> ?Good point Keith. I think if they are going to change the names, they should change the Latin names as well. To the best of my knowledge Thick-billed Longspur is still Rhynchophanes mccownii. So in a way, it is still named after McCown. A job half-done. But I guess it is much tougher to change the Latin names compared to the common ones. I guess they will probably get around to that.
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>> If they do, Say¡¯s Phoebe is going to need a whole new genus. :D
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>> Daniel Bastaja
>> danielbastaja@...
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>>> On Nov 11, 2023, at 20:37, pat.mary.taylor <pat.mary.taylor@...> wrote:
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>>> So what about all those insects, plants, et cetera et cetera and the Latin names.
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>>>>> On Nov 11, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Ian Burgess <ianburgess18@...> wrote:
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>>>> ??She sums it up well!? Thanks for sharing.
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>>>> Vancouver
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>>>>> On Nov 11, 2023, at 7:39 PM, sekhon.kelly via <sekhon.kelly=[email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>> ?Another point of view from a Corvid expert, Kaeli Swift, PhD, on Instagram:
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Re: Update on (re)naming from the AOS
Thanks for the message Keith. I am in favor of changing some of the names. I just don't think it's necessary to change them all. But not such a big deal if they do. A name is just an arbitrary label assigned by humans so everybody knows what thing is being talked about. In this regard, one (non-offensive) name is as good as any other. And people will get used to the changes quickly. New field guides will be published and in ten years the issue will have faded into irrelevance.
Remember when Peregrine Falcon used to be Duck Hawk, Merlin was Pigeon Hawk, Kestrel was Sparrowhawk and Northern Harrier was Marsh Hawk? :D :D
Daniel Bastaja
danielbastaja@... <mailto:danielbastaja@...>
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On Nov 12, 2023, at 18:34, pat.mary.taylor <pat.mary.taylor@...> wrote:
Hi Daniel
You¡¯ve really thought about this issue to come up with the Say¡¯s Phoebe. What a mess these changes would create. And for what? I for one never associate a birds name with its historic reference for instance Blackburnian was also assumed to be the colours, black and burn as in burning orange. However, I¡¯m not a historian and have no idea who Anna was in hummingbird and so and so on.
Keith Taylor
On Nov 12, 2023, at 7:53 AM, Daniel Bastaja <danielbastaja@...> wrote:
?Good point Keith. I think if they are going to change the names, they should change the Latin names as well. To the best of my knowledge Thick-billed Longspur is still Rhynchophanes mccownii. So in a way, it is still named after McCown. A job half-done. But I guess it is much tougher to change the Latin names compared to the common ones. I guess they will probably get around to that.
If they do, Say¡¯s Phoebe is going to need a whole new genus. :D
Daniel Bastaja
danielbastaja@...
On Nov 11, 2023, at 20:37, pat.mary.taylor <pat.mary.taylor@...> wrote:
So what about all those insects, plants, et cetera et cetera and the Latin names.
Keith Taylor
On Nov 11, 2023, at 11:29 AM, Ian Burgess <ianburgess18@...> wrote: ??She sums it up well! Thanks for sharing.
Ian Burgess
Vancouver
On Nov 11, 2023, at 7:39 PM, sekhon.kelly via groups.io <sekhon.kelly@...> wrote:
?Another point of view from a Corvid expert, Kaeli Swift, PhD, on Instagram:
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New Westminster
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Derek Matthews
Pamela Zevit
