New City Council Districts proposed
This is the latest map the city is working on for council districts.
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Much of? SC goes to CD4 Nithya.? Fire to frying pan. And a split for SC. Sucks!
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1NQl1Y50DCo7rMx8MjdnF61gFGT3gJQjB&ll=34.154181491727606%2C-118.48898750073242&z=12
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Rob Frankel
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YES!? It’s the military suppliers (and our economy) who benefit.? War creates jobs and revenue.? ? p.s.? how many years have we been in So Korea? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of robfrankel
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 10:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [valleyredspace] 911 ? [Edited Message Follows] Actually, the?Lusitania was just one of many incidents in which German torpedoes sank civilian ships with no warning, so I'm going to disagree with you on that one.? As for "endless wars," that only started recently, when various administrations somehow decided that war is NOT about winning, and winning quickly.? The last president to engage correctly was George Herbert Walker Bush, who despite prodding by his cohorts, merely drove Saddam Hussein back into his corner.? The first Gulf War was short and decisive. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that when wars are prolonged with no decisive action/strategy, it's the military suppliers who benefit. Honoring our dead is popular across many cultures.? The truth is, harsh as it sounds, the first responders acted with honor.? Everyone else was just a victim.? In Israel, when a terrorist succeeds in blowing up a restaurant or café, the place is cleaned up and restored, usually within 24 hours.? They know that prolonging the misfortune is a victory for their enemy, so they dispose of the occurrence in order to show strength and endurance. We just sit in front of our screens and mope.
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All some interesting points. ? The video is spot on.? I can only imagine what is going to happen when the panacea of the masses – God theory ?– is debunked. ? However, this is still very different: this happened on our soil, was carefully premeditated ?and was intentionally inflicted on innocent civilians.? I can’t comment on what all was going on with the Lusitania BUT that was during a world war.? Wrong place, wrong time?? Maybe. ? As for the quick disposal of remains, that simply was not possible with the size of the world trade center buildings had it even been desired.? It seems to me the 24 hr turn-around is one of the tenets of the Jewish philosophy, in particular . Possibly others as well.? For Christians, it is generally 72 hrs. although that was certainly not possible in this case either.? ? The people working in the Pentagon did return to work the very next day although it seems to me it may have taken a year or some large part of a year to restore that building. ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of robfrankel
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 10:00 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [valleyredspace] 911 ? Actually, the?Lusitania was just one of many incidents in which German torpedoes sank civilian ships with no warning, so I'm going to disagree with you on that one.? As for "endless wars," that only started recently, when various administrations somehow decided that war is about winning, and winning quickly.? The last president to engage correctly was George Herbert Walker Bush, who despite prodding by his cohorts, merely drove Saddam Hussein back into his corner.? The first Gulf War was short and decisive. I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that when wars are prolonged with no decisive action/strategy, it's the military suppliers who benefit. Honoring our dead is popular across many cultures.? The truth is, harsh as it sounds, the first responders acted with honor.? Everyone else was just a victim.? In Israel, when a terrorist succeeds in blowing up a restaurant or café, the place is cleaned up and restored, usually within 24 hours.? They know that prolonging the misfortune is a victory for their enemy, so they dispose of the occurrence in order to show strength and endurance. We just sit in front of our screens and mope.
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Actually, the?Lusitania was just one of many incidents in which German torpedoes sank civilian ships with no warning, so I'm going to disagree with you on that one.? As for "endless wars," that only started recently, when various administrations somehow decided that war is NOT about winning, and winning quickly.? The last president to engage correctly was George Herbert Walker Bush, who despite prodding by his cohorts, merely drove Saddam Hussein back into his corner.? The first Gulf War was short and decisive.
I'm no conspiracy theorist, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that when wars are prolonged with no decisive action/strategy, it's the military suppliers who benefit.
Honoring our dead is popular across many cultures.? The truth is, harsh as it sounds, the first responders acted with honor.? Everyone else was just a victim.?
In Israel, when a terrorist succeeds in blowing up a restaurant or café, the place is cleaned up and restored, usually within 24 hours.? They know that prolonging the misfortune is a victory for their enemy, so they dispose of the occurrence in order to show strength and endurance.
We just sit in front of our screens and mope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTmCxbcRXs4
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Rob Frankel
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This is different.? This was a deliberate attack on innocent and unsuspecting civilians and not military actions among engaged militaries. ? I don’t know that getting even is desirable.? If the world ran on the get even principle, we would all be in non-stop war with each other including right here inside the US all day long, every day whether for real or imagined slights.? ? We succeeded in capturing and killing the perpetrator of the 9/11 attack as well as burying him where no one could use his grave as a martyr site.? Anti-climactic and wholly unsatisfying, that is nonetheless a good as it gets in this eye for an eye scenario. ? Although I am not religious, I was raised in a Christian household and in my family, we have traditions of honoring our dead.? We always place flowers on graves for holidays, birthdays, death days and other times when so motivated.? These services today are reminiscent of those traditions and ?also a reminder of a day when our country came together as one regardless of individual beliefs. ? It’s like my very smart Jewish husband remarked about his own impending demise:? what do you buy for a dead man except cut flowers? His grave is one of the few at Mt Sinai that has flowers – living plants as well as cut flowers - ?on it all year long.? ?18 years and counting. ? Best, Cathy Larimer ? ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of robfrankel
Sent: Saturday, September 11, 2021 9:02 AM
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Subject: [valleyredspace] 911 ? I'll probably catch hell for this, but this reading of the 9/11 victims is a massive head fake that accomplishes nothing, and is actually an insult to the country. Sure, it looks like we're doing something, but we're really not. It makes people at home feel like they're participating, but they're really not. Nobody reads the names of sailors who died on December 7, 1941. Nobody reads the names of the passengers who died when the Lusitania was torpedoed. Like so much of what we see and do, these services are nothing more than a salve, designed to defray any real efforts or political actions. They serve only to provide a sense of accomplishment to a sedated population accustomed to subservience. "Did you watch the memorial service? It was so sad." That's it. That's all. There was a time when this country didn't slink off and lick its wounds. We didn't get mad; we got even. Now all we get is maudlin programming with regularly scheduled commercial interruptions. This is the shame that is America. --
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This year's commemoration is a calculated to be an INTENTIONAL MISDIRECTION, to take away attention from the bungling of the Biden Administration over the past eight months.
The Late Rush Limbaugh had a term for this sort of calculated misdirection.? He called it "symbolism over substance."? While people may subjectively feel better by recalling the events, this year has become a publicity event for political opportunists.
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-------- Original message -------- From: robfrankel <rob@...> Date: 9/11/21 9:02 AM (GMT-08:00) Subject: [valleyredspace] 911
I'll probably catch hell for this, but this reading of the 9/11 victims is a massive head fake that accomplishes nothing, and is actually an insult to the country. Sure, it looks like we're doing something, but we're really not. It makes people at home feel like they're participating, but they're really not. Nobody reads the names of sailors who died on December 7, 1941. Nobody reads the names of the passengers who died when the Lusitania was torpedoed.
Like so much of what we see and do, these services are nothing more than a salve, designed to defray any real efforts or political actions. They serve only to provide a sense of accomplishment to a sedated population accustomed to subservience.
"Did you watch the memorial service? It was so sad." That's it. That's all.
There was a time when this country didn't slink off and lick its wounds. We didn't get mad; we got even. Now all we get is maudlin programming with regularly scheduled commercial interruptions.
This is the shame that is America.
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Rob Frankel
Chief Curmudgeon
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I'll probably catch hell for this, but this reading of the 9/11 victims is a massive head fake that accomplishes nothing, and is actually an insult to the country. Sure, it looks like we're doing something, but we're really not. It makes people at home feel like they're participating, but they're really not. Nobody reads the names of sailors who died on December 7, 1941. Nobody reads the names of the passengers who died when the Lusitania was torpedoed.
Like so much of what we see and do, these services are nothing more than a salve, designed to defray any real efforts or political actions. They serve only to provide a sense of accomplishment to a sedated population accustomed to subservience.
"Did you watch the memorial service? It was so sad." That's it. That's all.
There was a time when this country didn't slink off and lick its wounds. We didn't get mad; we got even. Now all we get is maudlin programming with regularly scheduled commercial interruptions.
This is the shame that is America.
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Rob Frankel
Chief Curmudgeon
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Joe from back in the day!!!
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URGENT CALL TO ACTION BY?MONDAY, 8/30/21?– Call your Assemblyman, Senator and House of Representatives and leave multiple messages!
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Communism is coming for you NOW in the form of AB455.?
Mandatory Vaccination and Proof of will be required in CA as of September. We must DEFEAT THIS before it becomes law for 100 years. Our kids and grandkids will be hurt by this law. No more flying, no more hotel stays, no more indoor activities, no more restaurants, no more jobs because employers will be required to show proof of all employees vax card.?CALL CALL CALL your Assemblyman, Senator, and House of Representatives by?Monday, 8/30/21?and demand they reject this bill.?Voting may take place?on Monday, 8/30/21?and drop dead deadline for legislature vote is?September 10.
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Activists and leaders, please rally your troop to make hundreds of calls ASAP. Not much time.?
CALL and leave multiple messages.?
For LA County, go to??to find out who your state legislatures are. For other counties, email??to get your info.?
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I'm holding on to my ballot until I see who the frontrunner is. If it's Elder, I will vote for him.
At this point I, like all of you, want to see Newsom GONE!!!
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I'm holding on to my ballot until I see who the frontrunner is. If it's Elder, I will vote for him.
At this point I, like all of you, want to see Newsom GONE!!!
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I absolutely love Kevin Kiley and everything he's done, BUT he lost me with one remark in the first debate, when he said he would have the people of California?elect a new senator.? That told me he really didn't understand street fighting.? We simply cannot afford to lose a Senate majority with an?elected California senator.? The stakes are too high.
So I shifted to John Cox, who is indeed more of a businessman and displayed a lot of knowledge on a broad range of topics. He was endorsed by Trump in 2018.?
Kiley should remain as the governor's ally in the Assembly, where he does outstanding work.? He can also get good experience since he's still quite young.
Nobody wants Faulconer because he's an imbecile. Ose is out due to health, but he's endorsed Kiley.? Ric Grinell has told Faulconer to drop out, preferring Kiley.
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No elder.? So then? who? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bonnie Kurnick via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2021 4:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [valleyredspace] Recall yes, Elder no ? With all due respect, I am urging everyone to focus solely on the recall, not on who will replace him. While I am a big Larry Elder supporter, I would be more than happy to have your candidate elected as well. But I still think the focus should be on getting enough YES votes......not taking away from our most important mission of getting Newson OUT!!
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From: robfrankel <rob@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, Aug 24, 2021 8:38 am
Subject: [valleyredspace] Recall yes, Elder no I voted YES on the #California #recall, but I did NOT vote for Larry #Elder, for exactly the reasons you're seeing played out in the media: 2. He's avoided public debates 3. He's getting blasted by innuendo and not fighting back 4. He's spent years sniping behind a microphone, instead of scrapping in the main ring with the big boys. Yes, he's got awareness. But I'm concerned that if elected, he'll be eaten alive by the swamp. --
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With all due respect, I am urging everyone to focus solely on the recall, not on who will replace him. While I am a big Larry Elder supporter, I would be more than happy to have your candidate elected as well. But I still think the focus should be on getting enough YES votes......not taking away from our most important mission of getting Newson OUT!!
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From: robfrankel <rob@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, Aug 24, 2021 8:38 am
Subject: [valleyredspace] Recall yes, Elder no
I voted YES on the #California #recall, but I did NOT vote for Larry #Elder, for exactly the reasons you're seeing played out in the media:
2. He's avoided public debates
3. He's getting blasted by innuendo and not fighting back
4. He's spent years sniping behind a microphone, instead of scrapping in the main ring with the big boys.
Yes, he's got awareness. But I'm concerned that if elected, he'll be eaten alive by the swamp.
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Rob Frankel
Chief Curmudgeon
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I voted YES on the #California #recall, but I did NOT vote for Larry #Elder, for exactly the reasons you're seeing played out in the media:
2. He's avoided public debates
3. He's getting blasted by innuendo and not fighting back
4. He's spent years sniping behind a microphone, instead of scrapping in the main ring with the big boys.
Yes, he's got awareness. But I'm concerned that if elected, he'll be eaten alive by the swamp.
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Rob Frankel
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Recall ballots already being stolen
California recall voters stay vigilant:
https://kfiam640.iheart.com/content/2021-08-23-police-investigate-recall-election-ballots-found-in-mans-car-in-torrance/?keyid=KFI-AM&pname=local_social&sc=editorial
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Rob Frankel
Chief Curmudgeon
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Did anyone watch first the recall debate? It was Kiley, Ose, Cox and that idiot ex-mayor from San Diego.? Kiley, whose record and intentions are my preference, didn't come off as well as I'd hoped, speaking quickly and looking nervous, while Ose came off well as the wisened voice of common sense. However, I was impressed with John Cox, who was clear, concise and seemed very grounded.? I may throw my support there, depending on how the polls shape up. Neither Newsom nor Elder showed up -- very telling for both. --
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Rob Frankel
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Re: Candidates, not parties
It’s also viewable at americasvoice.news
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On Jul 30, 2021, at 10:45 AM, David Nelson via < lizardpie2@...> wrote:
I watch War Room live on Pluto TV when I can. ?Usually only for a short time in the morning before work. ?It’s on 7-9am (M-Sat) and 2-3pm (M-F).? I don’t miss a bit though since it’s available via podcast. ?And I can usually breeze through it at 2x speed that way.
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Re: Candidates, not parties
I watch War Room live on Pluto TV when I can. ?Usually only for a short time in the morning before work. ?It’s on 7-9am (M-Sat) and 2-3pm (M-F).?
I don’t miss a bit though since it’s available via podcast. ?And I can usually breeze through it at 2x speed that way.
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Re: Candidates, not parties
Bannon's? War Room Pandemic is on Pluto TV, which you can find on cable and as a downloadable app on many platforms. --
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Rob Frankel
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