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Foreign Alphabets #help


 

Hello everyone!

Working with network datasets in Scandinavia presents a few issues concerning names. In short, characters such as umlauts or "o with stroke" aren't recognized.

For example, names like?B??s or?B?rd or ?deg?rd get quite mangled in the output. I either have to Anglicize the names (not always appreciated), use digraphs, e.g. use "oe" for "o with stroke", or manually replace them in the output.

Are there any solutions for this, specifically a way? to get UCINET to recognize these characters?

thoughtfully
Starling

Also working with a few datasets in the Middle East but given the above, I'll assume for now that dealing Arabic script is a complete non-starter!


 

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Is it a specific routine that is screwing up? If I enter data with these names into the dl editor using a recent version of UCINET, like this:

?

?

It produces this output:

?

IMPORT DATA VIA DL EDITOR

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

?

?

?

??????????????? 1 2 3 4

????????????????B B S ?

????????????????? ? t d

????????????????r ? a e

????????????????d s r g

????????????????????l ?

????????????????????i r

????????????????????n d

????????????????????g??

????????????????- - - -

?????1???? B?rd 0 0 1 0

?????2???? B??s 1 0 0 0

?????3 Starling????????

?????4? ?deg?rd 1 1 0 0

?

4 rows, 4 columns, 1 levels.

?

Output UCINET file:????? ???????????????starling (C:\Users\Steve Borgatti\Dropbox\data\ucinet data\starling

?

?

--------------------------------------

Running time: 00:00:11 seconds.

Output generated: 02 Feb 23 10:54:42

?

And a further analysis looks like this:

?

->dsp degree(starling)

Normalized = no

See also: indegree and outdegree functions

?

?

?

??????????????? 1 2 3

????????????????D O I

????????????????e u n

????????????????g t d

????????????????r d e

????????????????e e g

????????????????e g r

??????????????????r e

??????????????????e e

??????????????????e??

????????????????- - -

?????1???? B?rd 3 1 2

?????2???? B??s 2 1 1

?????3 Starling 1 0 1

?????4? ?deg?rd 2 2 0

?

4 rows, 3 columns, 1 levels.

?

?

So, if your version of ucinet is not from the last few years, then upgrade. If it is recent, tell me exactly what procedures you used to read in the data and/or analyze it. Perhaps older routines don’t understand Unicode.

?

steve

?

Stephen P. Borgatti

Carol Martin Gatton Chair of Management

Gatton College of Business and Economics

University of Kentucky

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of starlingdavidhunter via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 04:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ucinet] Foreign Alphabets #help

?

CAUTION: External Sender

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Hello everyone!

Working with network datasets in Scandinavia presents a few issues concerning names. In short, characters such as umlauts or "o with stroke" aren't recognized.

For example, names like?B??s or?B?rd or ?deg?rd get quite mangled in the output. I either have to Anglicize the names (not always appreciated), use digraphs, e.g. use "oe" for "o with stroke", or manually replace them in the output.

Are there any solutions for this, specifically a way? to get UCINET to recognize these characters?

thoughtfully
Starling

Also working with a few datasets in the Middle East but given the above, I'll assume for now that dealing Arabic script is a complete non-starter!


 

Steve, hello!? I didn't see your answer until now. Thanks for the reply. Yes, it's a specific routine where I encounter the problem,

It's the export|DL? (not legacy) that's the issue. As you can see in the attachment there are problems handling letters and characters
that I routinely come across in Norwegian and Swedish datasets.

I plan to upload that list into Excel for use in another program and see now way (at present) to avoid having to manually change the names containing these characters.

Any help you could provide would be much appreciated and, of course, a real time saver.

thoughtfully
Starling

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On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 5:06 PM Steve Borgatti <sborgatti@...> wrote:

Is it a specific routine that is screwing up? If I enter data with these names into the dl editor using a recent version of UCINET, like this:

?

?

It produces this output:

?

IMPORT DATA VIA DL EDITOR

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

?

?

?

??????????????? 1 2 3 4

????????????????B B S ?

????????????????? ? t d

????????????????r ? a e

????????????????d s r g

????????????????????l ?

????????????????????i r

????????????????????n d

????????????????????g??

????????????????- - - -

?????1???? B?rd 0 0 1 0

?????2???? B??s 1 0 0 0

?????3 Starling????????

?????4? ?deg?rd 1 1 0 0

?

4 rows, 4 columns, 1 levels.

?

Output UCINET file:????? ???????????????starling (C:\Users\Steve Borgatti\Dropbox\data\ucinet data\starling

?

?

--------------------------------------

Running time: 00:00:11 seconds.

Output generated: 02 Feb 23 10:54:42

?

And a further analysis looks like this:

?

->dsp degree(starling)

Normalized = no

See also: indegree and outdegree functions

?

?

?

??????????????? 1 2 3

????????????????D O I

????????????????e u n

????????????????g t d

????????????????r d e

????????????????e e g

????????????????e g r

??????????????????r e

??????????????????e e

??????????????????e??

????????????????- - -

?????1???? B?rd 3 1 2

?????2???? B??s 2 1 1

?????3 Starling 1 0 1

?????4? ?deg?rd 2 2 0

?

4 rows, 3 columns, 1 levels.

?

?

So, if your version of ucinet is not from the last few years, then upgrade. If it is recent, tell me exactly what procedures you used to read in the data and/or analyze it. Perhaps older routines don’t understand Unicode.

?

steve

?

Stephen P. Borgatti

Carol Martin Gatton Chair of Management

Gatton College of Business and Economics

University of Kentucky

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of starlingdavidhunter via
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 04:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ucinet] Foreign Alphabets #help

?

CAUTION: External Sender

?

Hello everyone!

Working with network datasets in Scandinavia presents a few issues concerning names. In short, characters such as umlauts or "o with stroke" aren't recognized.

For example, names like?B??s or?B?rd or ?deg?rd get quite mangled in the output. I either have to Anglicize the names (not always appreciated), use digraphs, e.g. use "oe" for "o with stroke", or manually replace them in the output.

Are there any solutions for this, specifically a way? to get UCINET to recognize these characters?

thoughtfully
Starling

Also working with a few datasets in the Middle East but given the above, I'll assume for now that dealing Arabic script is a complete non-starter!


 

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I can fix the exporter, but meanwhile, there are much easier ways to get an edgelist to excel. Here is one method:

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Start by opening a ucinet network dataset in the dl editor. Use the openfolder button with U in it. In the example below, I’ve created a dataset called to test to use. Make sure to tell it you want to see the data as an edgelist.

?

?

Next press OK to get this:

?

?

Now press Ctrl-A to highlight all, press Ctrl-C to copy to the clipboard, and then paste into Excel.

?

steve

?

Stephen P. Borgatti

Carol Martin Gatton Chair of Management

Gatton College of Business and Economics

University of Kentucky

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of starlingdavidhunter via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 07:23
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ucinet] Foreign Alphabets #help

?

CAUTION: External Sender

?

Steve, hello!? I didn't see your answer until now. Thanks for the reply. Yes, it's a specific routine where I encounter the problem,

?

It's the export|DL? (not legacy) that's the issue. As you can see in the attachment there are problems handling letters and characters

that I routinely come across in Norwegian and Swedish datasets.

?

I plan to upload that list into Excel for use in another program and see now way (at present) to avoid having to manually change the names containing these characters.

?

Any help you could provide would be much appreciated and, of course, a real time saver.

?

thoughtfully

Starling

?

?

On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 5:06 PM Steve Borgatti <sborgatti@...> wrote:

Is it a specific routine that is screwing up? If I enter data with these names into the dl editor using a recent version of UCINET, like this:

?

?

It produces this output:

?

IMPORT DATA VIA DL EDITOR

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

?

?

?

??????????????? 1 2 3 4

????????????????B B S ?

????????????????? ? t d

????????????????r ? a e

????????????????d s r g

????????????????????l ?

????????????????????i r

????????????????????n d

????????????????????g??

????????????????- - - -

?????1???? B?rd 0 0 1 0

?????2???? B??s 1 0 0 0

?????3 Starling????????

?????4? ?deg?rd 1 1 0 0

?

4 rows, 4 columns, 1 levels.

?

Output UCINET file:????? ???????????????starling (C:\Users\Steve Borgatti\Dropbox\data\ucinet data\starling

?

?

--------------------------------------

Running time: 00:00:11 seconds.

Output generated: 02 Feb 23 10:54:42

?

And a further analysis looks like this:

?

->dsp degree(starling)

Normalized = no

See also: indegree and outdegree functions

?

?

?

??????????????? 1 2 3

????????????????D O I

????????????????e u n

????????????????g t d

????????????????r d e

????????????????e e g

????????????????e g r

??????????????????r e

??????????????????e e

??????????????????e??

????????????????- - -

?????1???? B?rd 3 1 2

?????2???? B??s 2 1 1

?????3 Starling 1 0 1

?????4? ?deg?rd 2 2 0

?

4 rows, 3 columns, 1 levels.

?

?

So, if your version of ucinet is not from the last few years, then upgrade. If it is recent, tell me exactly what procedures you used to read in the data and/or analyze it. Perhaps older routines don’t understand Unicode.

?

steve

?

Stephen P. Borgatti

Carol Martin Gatton Chair of Management

Gatton College of Business and Economics

University of Kentucky

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of starlingdavidhunter via
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 04:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ucinet] Foreign Alphabets #help

?

CAUTION: External Sender

?

Hello everyone!

Working with network datasets in Scandinavia presents a few issues concerning names. In short, characters such as umlauts or "o with stroke" aren't recognized.

For example, names like?B??s or?B?rd or ?deg?rd get quite mangled in the output. I either have to Anglicize the names (not always appreciated), use digraphs, e.g. use "oe" for "o with stroke", or manually replace them in the output.

Are there any solutions for this, specifically a way? to get UCINET to recognize these characters?

thoughtfully
Starling

Also working with a few datasets in the Middle East but given the above, I'll assume for now that dealing Arabic script is a complete non-starter!


 

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Also, I discovered that, when I ran the exporter, the output text file it creates is fine. For example, in your case, the file

?

“Company_2mode (People + Culture Keywords)rows.txt”

?

on your hard disk should look fine. It is just the log file showing you what at it created that is wrong.

?

steve

?

?

Stephen P. Borgatti

Carol Martin Gatton Chair of Management

Gatton College of Business and Economics

University of Kentucky

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of starlingdavidhunter via groups.io
Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 07:23
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ucinet] Foreign Alphabets #help

?

CAUTION: External Sender

?

Steve, hello!? I didn't see your answer until now. Thanks for the reply. Yes, it's a specific routine where I encounter the problem,

?

It's the export|DL? (not legacy) that's the issue. As you can see in the attachment there are problems handling letters and characters

that I routinely come across in Norwegian and Swedish datasets.

?

I plan to upload that list into Excel for use in another program and see now way (at present) to avoid having to manually change the names containing these characters.

?

Any help you could provide would be much appreciated and, of course, a real time saver.

?

thoughtfully

Starling

?

?

On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 5:06 PM Steve Borgatti <sborgatti@...> wrote:

Is it a specific routine that is screwing up? If I enter data with these names into the dl editor using a recent version of UCINET, like this:

?

?

It produces this output:

?

IMPORT DATA VIA DL EDITOR

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

?

?

?

??????????????? 1 2 3 4

????????????????B B S ?

????????????????? ? t d

????????????????r ? a e

????????????????d s r g

????????????????????l ?

????????????????????i r

????????????????????n d

????????????????????g??

????????????????- - - -

?????1???? B?rd 0 0 1 0

?????2???? B??s 1 0 0 0

?????3 Starling????????

?????4? ?deg?rd 1 1 0 0

?

4 rows, 4 columns, 1 levels.

?

Output UCINET file:????? ???????????????starling (C:\Users\Steve Borgatti\Dropbox\data\ucinet data\starling

?

?

--------------------------------------

Running time: 00:00:11 seconds.

Output generated: 02 Feb 23 10:54:42

?

And a further analysis looks like this:

?

->dsp degree(starling)

Normalized = no

See also: indegree and outdegree functions

?

?

?

??????????????? 1 2 3

????????????????D O I

????????????????e u n

????????????????g t d

????????????????r d e

????????????????e e g

????????????????e g r

??????????????????r e

??????????????????e e

??????????????????e??

????????????????- - -

?????1???? B?rd 3 1 2

?????2???? B??s 2 1 1

?????3 Starling 1 0 1

?????4? ?deg?rd 2 2 0

?

4 rows, 3 columns, 1 levels.

?

?

So, if your version of ucinet is not from the last few years, then upgrade. If it is recent, tell me exactly what procedures you used to read in the data and/or analyze it. Perhaps older routines don’t understand Unicode.

?

steve

?

Stephen P. Borgatti

Carol Martin Gatton Chair of Management

Gatton College of Business and Economics

University of Kentucky

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of starlingdavidhunter via
Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2023 04:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: [ucinet] Foreign Alphabets #help

?

CAUTION: External Sender

?

Hello everyone!

Working with network datasets in Scandinavia presents a few issues concerning names. In short, characters such as umlauts or "o with stroke" aren't recognized.

For example, names like?B??s or?B?rd or ?deg?rd get quite mangled in the output. I either have to Anglicize the names (not always appreciated), use digraphs, e.g. use "oe" for "o with stroke", or manually replace them in the output.

Are there any solutions for this, specifically a way? to get UCINET to recognize these characters?

thoughtfully
Starling

Also working with a few datasets in the Middle East but given the above, I'll assume for now that dealing Arabic script is a complete non-starter!