Hmm. Quora says Rosetta is for translating Mac apps written for intel chips to allow them to run on Macs with the apple m1 and m2 chips. Too bad.

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Hi all, a friend just asked me whether UCINET and NETDRAW run well on Macs using Rosetta. I had never heard of Rosetta, but some Googling suggests that it is nothing short of amazing. You don’t have to buy it, you don’t have to buy Widows, and you don’t have to explicitly run it – the Mac detects intel-based software and uses Rosetta to run it.

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Can it be true? Has anyone run Ucinet/Netdraw on Rosetta?

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Stephen P. Borgatti

Gatton Endowed Chair

Dept. of Management

University of Kentucky

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There is information on that measure here: “A Graph-theoretic perspective on centrality”

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See also: Borgatti, S.P., 2003. The Key Player Problem. 241-252 in Dynamic Social Network Modeling and Analysis: Workshop Summary and Papers, R. Breiger, K. Carley, P. Pattison (Eds.), National Academy of Sciences Press.

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Great!

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Kate, I still can’t replicate the issue. But given your previous post, which showed the windows start menu with all the programs duplicated,

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I would suggest cleaning that up: uninstalling all versions of ucinet and netdraw and installing from the web. Then when you run netdraw, have a look at the title bar to see which version is actually running. For example, when I run mine, I see version 2.181.

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One reason I suggest this is that neither of your vna files contains arrowhead information, which would look like this:

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*Tie properties

FROM TO color size style headcolor headsize active arrowhead

"Altiero_T" "Guidetti_R" 0 1 0 0 9 -1 0

"Altiero_T" "Rebecchi_L" 0 1 0 0 9 -1 0

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This indicates that neither file was created using the recent version of netdraw. (Note that ucinet’s vna creator still doesn’t have the arrowhead feature).

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Hi, Steve,

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I’m also having problems reproducing data – some old files behave nicely when opened (with arrows) and then arrows are toggled off, others do not. Rather than inundate you with many tests, I’m going to plow ahead with my current analyses and keep track of any misbehavior—starting with all new importing of dl files and going from there.

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Just checking one thing, though – I’ve attached a screen shot of the current contents of the Analytic Technologies folder – following the instructions you posted, I persisted after getting the Microsoft Defender warning screen and did the download—understanding that my old folder contents would be wiped out. The wiggly red arrow points to the version of UCINet that I’ve tried to be consistent in using post-download. If you seen anything odd in the display, I hope you’ll let me know.

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Thanks again,

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Also, I discovered that, when I ran the exporter, the output text file it creates is fine. For example, in your case, the file

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“Company_2mode (People + Culture Keywords)rows.txt”

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on your hard disk should look fine. It is just the log file showing you what at it created that is wrong.

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steve

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I can fix the exporter, but meanwhile, there are much easier ways to get an edgelist to excel. Here is one method:

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Start by opening a ucinet network dataset in the dl editor. Use the openfolder button with U in it. In the example below, I’ve created a dataset called to test to use. Make sure to tell it you want to see the data as an edgelist.

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Next press OK to get this:

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Now press Ctrl-A to highlight all, press Ctrl-C to copy to the clipboard, and then paste into Excel.

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Thanks, Steve.

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I’ll think about which versions of things I’m using and try to document more clearly with explicit screen shots and send old, fairly new and hot off the press vna files. I’ll have to put off any future conversation and sending some files on this until I’m back in my office rather than trying to use Remote Desktop and fishing around for things. I know I’ll have time on Friday when I’ll be in my office for the day, but most of the week is slammed with other kinds of appointments.

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Hi Kate, I’m having trouble reproducing your problems. When I turn arrowheads off, they all go off. Can you send vna data? and/or a video. Send to sborgatti@....

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1. Older versions of netdraw always opened ucinet networks with arrowheads, even if the network was undirected. In recent versions, when you read the data, it turns the arrowheads off if it sees that every single tie is reciprocated (which usually means the graph is intended to be undirected). This only applies to ucinet datasets, not to vna files.
2. Older versions of vna files contained no arrowhead information, so any version of netdraw (including the latest) should always show all arrowheads on reading the data. However, if the current netdraw is used to save a vna file, the file will contain arrowhead information, and on reading the file netdraw should only display arrowheads for arcs that had them when the vna file was saved.
3. So you have both an old and a new version of netdraw? It sounds like you don’t have any trouble juggling the two, but it might be good to make sure that in Options|Helper Apps, Ucinet is pointing toward the current version of netdraw. Similarly, any shortcuts for netdraw you might have created outside ucinet should probably be updated to point to the newest version.

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Thanks for the quick response. I’m including a word doc with some screen grabs – using both the NetDraw option that comes with the 32 bit UCINet v 6.763 (my node count is rarely over 80, so I followed the suggestion in the website and am using the 32 bit version (. That’s what I should have done before.

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But even if there’s no arrowhead information in the vna file, ?my experience is that Netdraw will open with arrowheads as a matter of course (see first screen grab in the attached document) – and then one turns them off if one doesn’t want them cluttering up the place. That’s how things have worked for me over the years – from my end of things, it looks like the Netdraw app (integrated or stand-alone) may have arrowheads “on” as an opening default (just a guess – I’m the only user in my department or probably in my university AFAIK so there’s no one to ask).

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But as the screen grabs show—I can’t turn ALL the arrowheads off. And I’d really like to do that.

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Anyway – I look forward to any help you can provide. And pointers about what I may have done wrong when downloading/auto-installing the current version of the UCINet package.

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Hmm. I’ll check it out. I didn’t quite understand point #3. What exactly is happening when you open an old vna file? (which contains no arrowhead information).

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Hi, Steve,

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I downloaded the new UCINet version – and things are still weird. It seems to relate to saving the NetDraw network as a vna file and then trying to use the saved vna file.

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1. I can use Netdraw to open a UCINet data set and things seem to work OK. The set of networks opens with double arrowheads and I can turn them all off and on. When I have a configuration I like, I want to save it for future manipulation. So I save it as a vna file and shut down NetDraw.
2. It’s when I open the vna file with Netdraw (the built in link from the UCUNet top banner) that things get weird. The networks open, again, with double arrowheads. But when I try to turn the arrowheads off, only a very few of the smaller networks lose their arrowheads. The others retain them.
3. I try opening a different vna file, saved from the older version of UCINet. ?Same thing. Tried opening a vna file from about 5 years ago – same thing.

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There must be something still wonky with respect to NetDraw and the arrowheads – I don’t think 15 years of UCINet vna files have just gone round the bend. Could you look into this?

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I’m not a Mac user myself, so I don’t know much. I think many universities have citrix workspace, which allows students to run windows applications on different kinds of machines. My university set that up for a class last semester. It seemed to work, although there were hiccups. E.g., the systems admin who installed ucinet did not know that users needed a local folder to store data. And I think some less techie students continually had trouble finding/using that folder.

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