--- In twsapi@y..., "goldensilvermana" <kybryan@c...> wrote:

Dkamp

Here is how I envision a workable solution:

What is this in response to? This post makes it sound like the
charter of this group is to develop some trading platform, not to
discuss the TWS API.

It is the little guy against the big boys and I smell blood.

Huh? Blood? This makes no sense to me. Personally, by implementing
my own solution, I am not competing with the "big boys." Only if I am
planning on selling it do I compete. I am developing something
because nothing exists that does what I need.

The problem is that there are many lone wolves running down rabbit
trails and that is not the solution

We are running down different trails. If people truly have the same
needs, these should be communicated to IB as TWS feature requests.
Personally, I am almost certain that my requirements are different
than others'.

Hi Dion. This could be fun. Let's get all the .NET negatives out in
the open. I guess some counterpoints to the runtime objection would
be,

- 20MB is (or is fast becoming) small potatoes, MS has made it easy
to get the .NET runtime update, and future versions of Windows will
include it

- if one's primary interest is in gaining access to a group's work
for one's own purposes (for trading), then one wouldn't be too
concerned that others might have a harder time getting it (and all
the developers get the runtime as part of their installation)

please change my auto responder from yobryan@... to
kybryan@... thanks

--- In twsapi@y..., "kgeis" <kgeis@y...> wrote:

The problem is that there are many lone wolves running down rabbit
trails and that is not the solution

We are running down different trails. If people truly have the same
needs, these should be communicated to IB as TWS feature requests.
Personally, I am almost certain that my requirements are different
than others'.

This is just a thread within Scott's larger discussion board, adding
to the intellectual liquidity of the board. No need for all of us to
have the same aspirations.

It is possible to waste years debating Java vs. Microsoft or VB vs.
C++ etc., and the debate doesn't get you anywhere. I view this forum
as a way to share code, learn from what others are doing and perhaps
use as a lobbying jumping off point to get the IB developers to
prioritize important API improvements / bug fixes. I don't want to
cooperatively work on a project to develop a killer app, and I'd
rather the list didn't get hung up in that either. I have my own app
and have no interest in being a cog in the next open source project.
I develop my trading software to fill a need in my trading. I'm sure
there are many others who do the same thing. Programming isn't my
primary focus, trading is. To the extent that I can improve my
trading by programming the IB TWS API, I will do it. To the extent
that I can offer code and help to others traveling the same path as
me, I will do it. To the extent that I can get help from professional
programmers to meet this end I am appreciative.

--- In twsapi@y..., "dtkamp" <dkamp@e...> wrote:

Thanks Scott for getting responses.

Seems like way to go in a cooperative project is to get

participants

to use .NET framework, where language choice is least likely to

cause

problems, and C/C++ can be used to generate/process any necessary
unmanaged (= not under control of .NET runtime) or legacy code. I
think that will get us the most bang for the buck with repect to

our

individual uses of the code (but perhaps not the most bang if

someone

wanted to sell and distribute a cross-platform app - not a high
priority for me - but makes sense for IB's use of Java in TWS).

So what do the other 180 people up here think of what I just wrote
with respect to development platform selection for such a

cooperative

effort? (We can do a separte survey to figure out who's actually
interested in such a project. Am just fishing for .NET objections

to

start with.) Thanks!

Hi tripack. I'm sure your description fits most of IB's traders who
use the API. A few of us are just trying to think a bit outside the
lone wolf box. With respect to your reference to "open source",
Kent's proposal suggested that anyone involved in development or
funding would have ownership or use rights - no open source would be
involved as the term is commonly understood.

--- In twsapi@y..., tripack44 <no_reply@y...> wrote:

It is possible to waste years debating Java vs. Microsoft or VB vs.
C++ etc., and the debate doesn't get you anywhere. I view this

forum

as a way to share code, learn from what others are doing and

perhaps

use as a lobbying jumping off point to get the IB developers to
prioritize important API improvements / bug fixes. I don't want to
cooperatively work on a project to develop a killer app, and I'd
rather the list didn't get hung up in that either. I have my own

app

and have no interest in being a cog in the next open source

project.

I develop my trading software to fill a need in my trading. I'm

sure

there are many others who do the same thing. Programming isn't my
primary focus, trading is. To the extent that I can improve my
trading by programming the IB TWS API, I will do it. To the extent
that I can offer code and help to others traveling the same path as
me, I will do it. To the extent that I can get help from

professional

programmers to meet this end I am appreciative.

Best of luck to Todd and his new for-sale AutoExecutor Program that
implements auto-stops:

} [...]
}
} Planet Source Safe:
}
} The Planet Source site has an excellent searchable code base.
} Submissions are rated. Planet Source is the largest public code
} database on the internet.
}

An interesting claim. But not likely.


Richard

Can you please get me Todds Email Address?

Scott

IB Mgt

Please review the use of banner on this message board...Our
discussion expands on the use of TWS API....




IB Mgt Response

We are fine for now, but reserve the right to change our decision.
Thanks for
the IB support.

Best Regards,

Steve Sanders

Well with 209 Members in 2 days I am little stunned...

I will need to have a few people willing to moderate when I am not
on....

Please private email if you are interested and give me a 20 Second
sound byte why you would want to moderate...



Scott

开云体育

Why not allow people who post responsibly for a few days. Become
unmoderated. Reducing your workload while allowing quick discussion.

Regards

Chasman.

I dont mean moderate the posts before there posted....

It would be nice to have a couple of guys with the power to yank in
case some spammer gets in or something lame is posted...

I firmly against censorship...but if someone posts something totally
lame and I am on vacation who is gonna yank it?

Thats what I meant



--- In twsapi@y..., "Chas Watkins" <chas@o...> wrote:

Why not allow people who post responsibly for a few days. Become
unmoderated. Reducing your workload while allowing quick discussion.

Regards

Chasman.

-----Original Message-----
From: marinindextrader [mailto:marinindextrader@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 6:41 AM
To: twsapi@y...
Subject: [twsapi] ALL: Help Wanted_ Moderator

Well with 209 Members in 2 days I am little stunned...

I will need to have a few people willing to moderate when I am not
on....

Please private email if you are interested and give me a 20 Second
sound byte why you would want to moderate...



Scott



To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
twsapi-unsubscribe@y...



Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

Let me clarify...I will never ever censor or hold up posts

never ever

I want all to be clear on that

Scott


--- In twsapi@y..., "marinindextrader" <marinindextrader@y...> wrote:

I dont mean moderate the posts before there posted....

It would be nice to have a couple of guys with the power to yank in
case some spammer gets in or something lame is posted...

I firmly against censorship...but if someone posts something

totally

lame and I am on vacation who is gonna yank it?

Thats what I meant



--- In twsapi@y..., "Chas Watkins" <chas@o...> wrote:

Why not allow people who post responsibly for a few days. Become
unmoderated. Reducing your workload while allowing quick

discussion.

Regards

Chasman.

-----Original Message-----
From: marinindextrader [mailto:marinindextrader@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 6:41 AM
To: twsapi@y...
Subject: [twsapi] ALL: Help Wanted_ Moderator

Well with 209 Members in 2 days I am little stunned...

I will need to have a few people willing to moderate when I am not
on....

Please private email if you are interested and give me a 20 Second
sound byte why you would want to moderate...



Scott



To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
twsapi-unsubscribe@y...



Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

It is my intent to slowly grow the tutorial project step by step as
time goes on....anyone wishing to contribute is welcome.

That should be one of the great features of this board (i.e.,
providing a non-trivial set of starting projects).

With respect to censorship, I'd vote for letting "commercial"
interests show up here as long as they aren't just spamming, and are
willing to be subjected to serious questions about their product. For
example, if someone from CyberTrader showed up, left a site address,
and claimed that everything IB is doing they do better (including API
support), then, IMHO, it would be better to go after them and get
them to explain themselves than to just kick them off. If they kept
spamming us without answering questions, then screw em, but otherwise
they would just be adding good content to the board.

"That should be one of the great features of this board (i.e.,
providing a non-trivial set of starting projects).
"

I would go beyond that...

Imagine a nucleus project growing. Every week or so it gets improved.
Older versions are retained...as a history to an evolution.

People download and tweak and then upload. We look, try it, and
comment. It morphs continuously as a result of many minds and
opinions....features are added, kept or tried and discarded. Input
comes from traders and programmers...eventually the project is a
viable tool, and the evolution continues.

It is free for everyone, even those who choose not to participate in
its developement. It is freeware of the best sort. Shaped by the
minds and experiences of many...freely diseminated. Source Code Open.

As time passes our pet "Board" project branches and takes on new
shapes and directions....perhaps merges back in totality or part.

I can see that. I see a commuinity project that is the best of all
those who wish to contribute, and free in totality.

Such a project and endeavor would be persistently satisfying, though
unlikely in reality....

In the meantime...I will continue to morph my little starter cell
project...new updates added...broader examples depicted...

It will be interesting to see if and when it becomes infectious


Scott

PS: The files section, like all sections of this board are
unlocked...anyone can access them, up or down.




--- In twsapi@y..., "dtkamp" <dkamp@e...> wrote:

It is my intent to slowly grow the tutorial project step by step

as

time goes on....anyone wishing to contribute is welcome.

That should be one of the great features of this board (i.e.,
providing a non-trivial set of starting projects).

With respect to censorship, I'd vote for letting "commercial"
interests show up here as long as they aren't just spamming, and

are

willing to be subjected to serious questions about their product.

For

example, if someone from CyberTrader showed up, left a site

address,

and claimed that everything IB is doing they do better (including

API

support), then, IMHO, it would be better to go after them and get
them to explain themselves than to just kick them off. If they kept
spamming us without answering questions, then screw em, but

otherwise

they would just be adding good content to the board.

A problem with this single approach is that we may have different
objectives. I'm trying to develop an automated option day-trading
system using vb.net. Other are looking for a position-trading
system. Some are into stocks or futures.

--- In twsapi@y..., "marinindextrader" <marinindextrader@y...> wrote:

"That should be one of the great features of this board (i.e.,
providing a non-trivial set of starting projects).
"

I would go beyond that...

Imagine a nucleus project growing. Every week or so it gets

improved.

Older versions are retained...as a history to an evolution.

People download and tweak and then upload. We look, try it, and
comment. It morphs continuously as a result of many minds and
opinions....features are added, kept or tried and discarded. Input
comes from traders and programmers...eventually the project is a
viable tool, and the evolution continues.

It is free for everyone, even those who choose not to participate

in

its developement. It is freeware of the best sort. Shaped by the
minds and experiences of many...freely diseminated. Source Code

Open.

As time passes our pet "Board" project branches and takes on new
shapes and directions....perhaps merges back in totality or part.

I can see that. I see a commuinity project that is the best of all
those who wish to contribute, and free in totality.

Such a project and endeavor would be persistently satisfying,

though

unlikely in reality....

In the meantime...I will continue to morph my little starter cell
project...new updates added...broader examples depicted...

It will be interesting to see if and when it becomes infectious


Scott

PS: The files section, like all sections of this board are
unlocked...anyone can access them, up or down.

I can see that. I see a commuinity project that is the best of all
those who wish to contribute, and free in totality.

It's good for public message boards to be run by extreme optimists,
whether the optimism makes any economic sense or not. :)

Something I'd like to see this group put together is an archive of
say the last 3 versions of the IB TWS in a spot that is accessible
and organized by version number. This way we can install a certain
version without needing to be on the bleeding edge of technology.
I've seen several cases where people upgraded to the latest and
greatest and it caused problems for their trading setup or software
setup because of bugs or incompatible versions. I've lobbied IB to
add the past few versions in a spot on their web site or on FTP, but
no action has occurred to date.