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The $500 Chinook takes a trip
Dick Rettke
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From: W0AH@...
Date: Wednesday, July
18, 2001 12:02:12 AM
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[toyota-campers] The $500 Chinook takes a trip ? After buying the
1976 Toyota Chinook that lay abandoned in a neighbors field for over 4 1/2 years (reported here a couple of weeks ago), I finally got it ready for it's first trip this past weekend to Panarama Point, the highest point in Nebraska, where I operated a ham radio contest. ?I had this unreasonable, compulsive desire to drive her to Nebraska for the contest since I bought her July 3. ?The round trip distance was almost 500 miles from here near Pikes Peak. ??In the past two weeks I spent over 20 hours cleaning the cabin and cab, rewiring the tail lights, replacing the horn, adding a new 12 volt battery, making sure the electrical converter was wired and working properly before using it, replacing some of the water tubing to/from the sink, and replacing many of the rusting nuts, bolts, and screws. I also bought a porta potty at Walmart. ?I also bought the Chilton Toyota pickup repair manual and intended to try to to some of the maintenance, but ran out of time- and had the wheel bearings repacked and the right front caliper and front rotars and break pads replaced at a local repair shop where they also took the good 16-ply tires off the dualies and put them on the four wheels with balancing. ?They also replaced the transmission oil and the belts. ?? Cost was $300. ?At another repair shop, I had the spark plugs, points, and condenser replaced and the timing adjusted and a compression test. ?Cost was $200. I asked both dealers to eyeball the Chinook for any problems. I got fairly clean bill of health, but was told by repair shop #2 that i better take my credit cards with me for the trip! ?I added the Chinook to my AAA coverage for $25, but was told it didn't take effect for 5 days, so I was prepared, if necessary, to spent 5 days with the broken down Chinook ?:-) ?? Luckily, that wasn't necessary, and I didn't need my credit cards either. ?I drove 200+ miles to the Panarama Point in Nebraska, Saturday morning, and returned, via Cheyenne WY, on Sunday afternoon and evening. No problems, except I needed to add a quart of oil every 150 miles, more often than I had to stop for gas! ??The almost clean bill of health included a compression test which was cylinder #1- 85 psi, #2- 105 psi, #3- 100 psi, #4- 95 psi. ? Guess my engine needs new piston rings and probably a lot more. ?The engine starts easily and sounds fine. ?I can go over 65 MPH on the level at 5000' ASL, much less going up hills especially near home at 9000' ASL. ? I paid $500 for the Chinook and have put about $700 in to it since. ?Auto repairman #2 said just drive and enjoy her, but have your credit cards handy...it's not worth putting a lot more money into her. ?Yep, I knew a $500 motorhome would have a lot of problems and also be a good gunea pig for learning a little auto mechanics, maintenance and repair of body rust, fiberglass damage, and motorhome appliances. ?So far it's been a lot of work and a lot of fun. ??Unless the stock market and my stocks (my retirement funding) do a quick reversal, I'll have my gunea pig for a while! ?I may drive her down to Mexico in September where I can have the engine overhauled at a shop rate of $10 or $15 an hour, compared to $60 an hour up here, or maybe I'll just drive her as is. The cabin has actually cleaned up quite nicely and is attractive. ?I'm repairing some of the Toyota body rust and plan to repair a few places where the fiberglass is scraped or cracked. ?Plan to repaint the cab. ?She will look presentable after all that. ?It may be too late for this old dog to learn enough auto mechanics to do anything serious, but I can do all the maintenance from now on and minor repairs. ?Do the affianados here think I should - 1) have the engine overhauled here for mucho $$$$ 2) Buy a replacement engine 3) Put the Chinook camper on a different Toyota chasis with a good engine 4) drive to Mexico- I plan to go there in any case- and have the engine overhauled there for $$ pesos 3) drive her and enjoy her as is 4) put her back out to pasture where she was resting peacefully until July 3rd Doug in Woodland Park CO To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: toyota-campers-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the . ?
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After buying the 1976 Toyota Chinook that lay abandoned in a neighbors field
for over 4 1/2 years (reported here a couple of weeks ago), I finally got it ready for it's first trip this past weekend to Panarama Point, the highest point in Nebraska, where I operated a ham radio contest. ?I had this unreasonable, compulsive desire to drive her to Nebraska for the contest since I bought her July 3. ?The round trip distance was almost 500 miles from here near Pikes Peak. ??In the past two weeks I spent over 20 hours cleaning the cabin and cab, rewiring the tail lights, replacing the horn, adding a new 12 volt battery, making sure the electrical converter was wired and working properly before using it, replacing some of the water tubing to/from the sink, and replacing many of the rusting nuts, bolts, and screws. I also bought a porta potty at Walmart. ?I also bought the Chilton Toyota pickup repair manual and intended to try to to some of the maintenance, but ran out of time- and had the wheel bearings repacked and the right front caliper and front rotars and break pads replaced at a local repair shop where they also took the good 16-ply tires off the dualies and put them on the four wheels with balancing. ?They also replaced the transmission oil and the belts. ?? Cost was $300. ?At another repair shop, I had the spark plugs, points, and condenser replaced and the timing adjusted and a compression test. ?Cost was $200. I asked both dealers to eyeball the Chinook for any problems. I got fairly clean bill of health, but was told by repair shop #2 that i better take my credit cards with me for the trip! ?I added the Chinook to my AAA coverage for $25, but was told it didn't take effect for 5 days, so I was prepared, if necessary, to spent 5 days with the broken down Chinook ?:-) ?? Luckily, that wasn't necessary, and I didn't need my credit cards either. ?I drove 200+ miles to the Panarama Point in Nebraska, Saturday morning, and returned, via Cheyenne WY, on Sunday afternoon and evening. No problems, except I needed to add a quart of oil every 150 miles, more often than I had to stop for gas! ??The almost clean bill of health included a compression test which was cylinder #1- 85 psi, #2- 105 psi, #3- 100 psi, #4- 95 psi. ? Guess my engine needs new piston rings and probably a lot more. ?The engine starts easily and sounds fine. ?I can go over 65 MPH on the level at 5000' ASL, much less going up hills especially near home at 9000' ASL. ? I paid $500 for the Chinook and have put about $700 in to it since. ?Auto repairman #2 said just drive and enjoy her, but have your credit cards handy...it's not worth putting a lot more money into her. ?Yep, I knew a $500 motorhome would have a lot of problems and also be a good gunea pig for learning a little auto mechanics, maintenance and repair of body rust, fiberglass damage, and motorhome appliances. ?So far it's been a lot of work and a lot of fun. ??Unless the stock market and my stocks (my retirement funding) do a quick reversal, I'll have my gunea pig for a while! ?I may drive her down to Mexico in September where I can have the engine overhauled at a shop rate of $10 or $15 an hour, compared to $60 an hour up here, or maybe I'll just drive her as is. The cabin has actually cleaned up quite nicely and is attractive. ?I'm repairing some of the Toyota body rust and plan to repair a few places where the fiberglass is scraped or cracked. ?Plan to repaint the cab. ?She will look presentable after all that. ?It may be too late for this old dog to learn enough auto mechanics to do anything serious, but I can do all the maintenance from now on and minor repairs. ?Do the affianados here think I should - 1) have the engine overhauled here for mucho $$$$ 2) Buy a replacement engine 3) Put the Chinook camper on a different Toyota chasis with a good engine 4) drive to Mexico- I plan to go there in any case- and have the engine overhauled there for $$ pesos 3) drive her and enjoy her as is 4) put her back out to pasture where she was resting peacefully until July 3rd Doug in Woodland Park CO |
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--- In toyota-campers@y..., W0AH@A... wrote:
After buying the 1976 Toyota Chinook that lay abandoned in aneighbors field for over 4 1/2 years (reported here a couple of weeks ago), Ifinally got it ready for it's first trip this past weekend to Panarama Point, thehighest point in Nebraska, where I operated a ham radio contest. I had thiscontest since I bought her July 3. The round trip distance was almost 500miles from here near Pikes Peak. In the past two weeks I spent over 20 hourscleaning the cabin and cab, rewiring the tail lights, replacing the horn,adding a new 12 volt battery, making sure the electrical converter was wired andworking properly before using it, replacing some of the water tubing to/fromthe sink, and replacing many of the rusting nuts, bolts, and screws. Ialso bought a porta potty at Walmart. I also bought the Chilton Toyotapickup repair manual and intended to try to to some of the maintenance, butran out of time- and had the wheel bearings repacked and the right frontcaliper and front rotars and break pads replaced at a local repair shop wherethey also took the good 16-ply tires off the dualies and put them on the fourwheels with balancing. They also replaced the transmission oil and thebelts. Cost was $300. At another repair shop, I had the spark plugs,points, and condenser replaced and the timing adjusted and a compression test.Cost was $200. I asked both dealers to eyeball the Chinook for any problems.I got fairly clean bill of health, but was told by repair shop #2 that ibetter take my credit cards with me for the trip! I added the Chinook tomy AAA coverage for $25, but was told it didn't take effect for 5 days, soI was prepared, if necessary, to spent 5 days with the broken down Chinook:-) Luckily, that wasn't necessary, and I didn't need my credit cardseither. I drove 200+ miles to the Panarama Point in Nebraska, Saturdaymorning, and returned, via Cheyenne WY, on Sunday afternoon and evening. Noproblems, except I needed to add a quart of oil every 150 miles, more oftenthan I had to stop for gas! The almost clean bill of health included acompression test which was cylinder #1- 85 psi, #2- 105 psi, #3- 100 psi, #4- 95psi. Guess my engine needs new piston rings and probably a lot more. Theengine starts easily and sounds fine. I can go over 65 MPH on the level at5000' ASL, much less going up hills especially near home at 9000' ASL.Auto repairman #2 said just drive and enjoy her, but have your creditcards handy...it's not worth putting a lot more money into her. Yep, Iknew a $500 motorhome would have a lot of problems and also be a good gunea pigfor learning a little auto mechanics, maintenance and repair of bodyrust, fiberglass damage, and motorhome appliances. So far it's been a lotof work and a lot of fun. Unless the stock market and my stocks (myretirement funding) do a quick reversal, I'll have my gunea pig for a while! Imay drive her down to Mexico in September where I can have the engineoverhauled at a shop rate of $10 or $15 an hour, compared to $60 an hour uphere, or maybe I'll just drive her as is.I'm repairing some of the Toyota body rust and plan to repair a fewplaces where the fiberglass is scraped or cracked. Plan to repaint the cab. Shewill look presentable after all that. It may be too late for this olddog to learn enough auto mechanics to do anything serious, but I can do allthe maintenance from now on and minor repairs. Do the affianados herethink I should -engine 4) drive to Mexico- I plan to go there in any case- and have theengine overhauled there for $$ pesosuntil July 3rd Doug in Woodland Park CO Doug. The compressions are low but fairly even. The rings may re-seat after some more gentle driving. However if the problem is valves they will get worse. I would have the valves checked/adjusted soon. This is where that differential compression test is best. It will tell you what is leaking. (See previous post in Archives). I recommend you have one run before you put any bucks in that engine. It's too early to write off your engine yet, but take a look at DOA Racing. com . They sell a 22re especially built up for Toyota RV use. If you restore the rest of the rig and since you are in at such a low cost, the price of that extra power engine may be worth it. Jack A2 |
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Christopher Darilek
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I've been dreaming of finding a Toyota Chinook popup camper, say, does your have AC in the cab (running off the engine) originally (I'm not asking if it still works..)? Also, you say it can do over 65 on level ground - how slow is it on the hills? I've been driving Volkswagen camper vans (1967 to 1981 models, air-cooled) and am sick of a lack of power. Of course I might not mind so much if the rig had AC. So, how would you describe the power coming from your Chinook? Well, I think even if you say it's slow like a school bus I might still dream of finding me one just for the reliability that comes from Toyota.. BTW, I think you should have the valves checked out on your '76, possibly needs new valve guides, but I wouldn't jump to a new or rebuilt engine just yet. Good luck! Thanks! Christopher Darilek Austin, TX ----- Original Message -----
From: <W0AH@...> To: <toyota-campers@...> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:02 AM Subject: [toyota-campers] The $500 Chinook takes a trip After buying the 1976 Toyota Chinook that lay abandoned in a neighborsfield for over 4 1/2 years (reported here a couple of weeks ago), I finally gotit ready for it's first trip this past weekend to Panarama Point, the highestfrom here near Pikes Peak. In the past two weeks I spent over 20 hourscleaning the cabin and cab, rewiring the tail lights, replacing the horn, adding anew 12 volt battery, making sure the electrical converter was wired andworking properly before using it, replacing some of the water tubing to/from theout of time- and had the wheel bearings repacked and the right front caliperand front rotars and break pads replaced at a local repair shop where theyalso took the good 16-ply tires off the dualies and put them on the four wheelswas $200. I asked both dealers to eyeball the Chinook for any problems. I gotI drove 200+ miles to the Panarama Point in Nebraska, Saturday morning, andhad to stop for gas! The almost clean bill of health included a compressionengine starts easily and sounds fine. I can go over 65 MPH on the level at 5000'$500 motorhome would have a lot of problems and also be a good gunea pig forwork and a lot of fun. Unless the stock market and my stocks (my retirementoverhauled at a shop rate of $10 or $15 an hour, compared to $60 an hour up here, orwhere the fiberglass is scraped or cracked. Plan to repaint the cab. She will3rd Doug in Woodland Park CO |
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I'd go with the valve guide replacement. I don't know what the
compression should be but 90 psi out of a 70's low compression 4 beater sounds pretty good. The guides are probaly dryed up and are letting alot of oil in. Parts are cheap but it is a labor intensive job. When do we get to see the pictures? Good Luck Mike --- In toyota-campers@y..., Christopher Darilek <cdarilek@d...> wrote: Doug,does your have AC in the cab (running off the engine) originally (I'm notasking if it still works..)? Also, you say it can do over 65 on level ground -how slow is it on the hills? I've been driving Volkswagen camper vans (1967to 1981 models, air-cooled) and am sick of a lack of power. Of course Imight not mind so much if the rig had AC. So, how would you describe thepower coming from your Chinook? Well, I think even if you say it's slow like aschool bus I might still dream of finding me one just for the reliabilitythat comes from Toyota..possibly needs new valve guides, but I wouldn't jump to a new or rebuiltengine just yet. Good luck!neighbors fieldfinally gotfor over 4 1/2 years (reported here a couple of weeks ago), I ithighestready for it's first trip this past weekend to Panarama Point, the thispoint in Nebraska, where I operated a ham radio contest. I had contestunreasonable, compulsive desire to drive her to Nebraska for the milessince I bought her July 3. The round trip distance was almost 500 fromhourshere near Pikes Peak. In the past two weeks I spent over 20 cleaningadding athe cabin and cab, rewiring the tail lights, replacing the horn, newand12 volt battery, making sure the electrical converter was wired workingto/from theproperly before using it, replacing some of the water tubing alsosink, and replacing many of the rusting nuts, bolts, and screws. I pickupbought a porta potty at Walmart. I also bought the Chilton Toyota but ranrepair manual and intended to try to to some of the maintenance, outcaliperof time- and had the wheel bearings repacked and the right front andtheyfront rotars and break pads replaced at a local repair shop where alsofour wheelstook the good 16-ply tires off the dualies and put them on the belts.with balancing. They also replaced the transmission oil and the points, andCost was $300. At another repair shop, I had the spark plugs, Costcondenser replaced and the timing adjusted and a compression test. wasproblems. I got$200. I asked both dealers to eyeball the Chinook for any betterfairly clean bill of health, but was told by repair shop #2 that i my AAAtake my credit cards with me for the trip! I added the Chinook to so I wascoverage for $25, but was told it didn't take effect for 5 days, Chinook :-)prepared, if necessary, to spent 5 days with the broken down either.Luckily, that wasn't necessary, and I didn't need my credit cards Imorning, anddrove 200+ miles to the Panarama Point in Nebraska, Saturday problems,returned, via Cheyenne WY, on Sunday afternoon and evening. No than Iexcept I needed to add a quart of oil every 150 miles, more often hadcompressionto stop for gas! The almost clean bill of health included a 95 psi.test which was cylinder #1- 85 psi, #2- 105 psi, #3- 100 psi, #4- TheGuess my engine needs new piston rings and probably a lot more. engineat 5000'starts easily and sounds fine. I can go over 65 MPH on the level since. AutoASL, much less going up hills especially near home at 9000' ASL. cardsrepairman #2 said just drive and enjoy her, but have your credit knew ahandy...it's not worth putting a lot more money into her. Yep, I $500pig formotorhome would have a lot of problems and also be a good gunea rust,learning a little auto mechanics, maintenance and repair of body lot offiberglass damage, and motorhome appliances. So far it's been a workretirementand a lot of fun. Unless the stock market and my stocks (my I mayfunding) do a quick reversal, I'll have my gunea pig for a while! here, ordrive her down to Mexico in September where I can have the engineoverhauledat a shop rate of $10 or $15 an hour, compared to $60 an hour up I'mmaybe I'll just drive her as is. placesrepairing some of the Toyota body rust and plan to repair a few whereShe willthe fiberglass is scraped or cracked. Plan to repaint the cab. dog tolook presentable after all that. It may be too late for this old all thelearn enough auto mechanics to do anything serious, but I can do think Imaintenance from now on and minor repairs. Do the affianados here engineshould - engine4) drive to Mexico- I plan to go there in any case- and have the until Julyoverhauled there for $$ pesos 3rdDoug in Woodland Park CO |
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