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Thank you very much for your thoughts on the matter. Yes the snow is gone,
today was a great day and we are almost done with the inside clean up on the
unit. -=dr=-

Dick,
Are you thawed out in Wisconsin yet? It sounds like your getting your Toyota ready for some traveling. Using the cardboard under the unit is a good idea in locating your drip. Regarding oil filters, no one in my family of five Toyota camper owners have used a Toyota oil filter and we have never had any engine problems related to oil and all of our units have around 100,000 miles or more. We all use the cheap Fram or whichever brand is on sale. I am sure, like Jack says, the Toyota filter has a check valve, which keeps oil from staying in the filter when the engine is off. It is also true that campers usually go longer between starts than cars, so this could help. I use oil additives like (Dura-Lube, Skick 50, Prolong, or Motor-Up) every 30-50k miles. They are designed to protect against cold starts. Have been very satisfied with these products. I am not an expert, these are just my opinions.

That is what is great about this site, you can get different thoughts and advice, and decide what works best for you. If you feel more comfortable having a Toyota oil filter then it is worth the extra $3. I just want to let you know that some of us get by with out them.

Happy Trails,
Nate

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Dick,
Are you thawed out in Wisconsin yet? It sounds like your getting

your Toyota ready for some traveling. Using the cardboard under the
unit is a good idea in locating your drip. Regarding oil filters, no
one in my family of five Toyota camper owners have used a Toyota oil
filter and we have never had any engine problems related to oil and
all of our units have around 100,000 miles or more. We all use the
cheap Fram or whichever brand is on sale. I am sure, like Jack says,
the Toyota filter has a check valve, which keeps oil from staying in
the filter when the engine is off. It is also true that campers
usually go longer between starts than cars, so this could help. I use
oil additives like (Dura-Lube, Skick 50, Prolong, or Motor-Up) every
30-50k miles. They are designed to protect against cold starts. Have
been very satisfied with these products. I am not an expert, these are
just my opinions.

That is what is great about this site, you can get different

thoughts and advice, and decide what works best for you. If you feel
more comfortable having a Toyota oil filter then it is worth the extra
$3. I just want to let you know that some of us get by with out them.

Happy Trails,
Nate

Nate.

Your reply on the Fram oil filters ($2.50 at Wal-Mart) is
like the old man who smoked 3 packs a day and lived to be
99. Some get away with it most don't.

My statment on OEM oil filters stands, and is echoed on
other Toyota lists.

I have had pesonal experience with severe valve lifter
problems on start up, which were solved by replacing a
Fram with an OEM unit on my Vanagon. Others on the
Vanagon list had the same result and it was damatic.
We researched and found that it was the check valves in
the VW, OEM filters that made such a big difference.


In my research on V-6'S I read a lot of Toyota lists, and
they were adamant about their use of Toyota filters only,
and talked about "check valves" After my experence, I
had no reason to doubt them, and thus I posted this.

Jack A2