Tommy,
It sounds like you are just about ready for the open road! Thanks for
the info on your axle switch, I'm sure some of our members will find
it useful!
Happy Toyota Trails,
Nate

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I just found a chinook - '76 with 53,000 original miles...it has

been

sitting for approx. 5 years and was just put in running condition,

i.e.

new fuel pump, battery, rebuilt carb., cleaned fuel lines, checked

some

of the hoses. Sounds like it's running ok. It needs a lot of clean

up

work, but supposedly everything worked ok when it was used last (in
1996). Can anyone suggest a price that I could offer for this?

Seller

seems to want around 1200.00 which sounds like a lot because of all

the

clean up needed and the "unknowns", but I don't want to miss out on

a

good deal. This will be our first camper purchase...we like fixer
uppers, but not money pits.
Thanks for all your comments.

Hilcrest.

$1,200 is a fair price, but not a great price.
You will have to put about 2k in the rear axle
(if it's not the one ton) to make it safe to
drive. Around 1k if you do your own work.

The machine is only 96 hp. The later 4s are 116hp
and they are non too swift in the hills.

The big question is, do you have the time, skills
and desire to work on your rig, or do you want
to get RVing With a minimum of hassle and expense?

My advice is, unless you want a hobby, Buy a later
22Re, ready to go and with the right axles.

Read our Archives, and continue to do your
homework. Remember these are old machines.

Jack A2

I agree it sounds like a fair price if it is not too worn out or
dirty.

The only reason not to buy it that I can think of is if it has leaked
so badly that the internal wood parts (floor/frame) have rotted.
That's real hard to fix. Inspect it carefully for any possible water
damage, and jump up and down a bit inside and see how solid it feels.
Just about anything else can be corrected with enough bucks.

Next to engine problems, and replacing the axle if necessary, the A/C
and refrigerator are the most expensive things to fix, so run them for
long enough to tell that they are cooling sufficiently for hot
weather. (Take a fridge thermometer if you have one.) A hot coach and
spoiling food are no fun on vacation.

Also check to see the condition of the fresh water tank. If it has
been sitting for 5 years, it might be quite putrid, and may require
major disintecting so you don't get sick from it.

Let us know if you decide to buy it.

Tika


--- In toyota-campers@y..., hilcrest@s... wrote:

I just found a chinook - '76 with 53,000 original miles...it has

been

sitting for approx. 5 years and was just put in running condition,

i.e.

new fuel pump, battery, rebuilt carb., cleaned fuel lines, checked

some

of the hoses. Sounds like it's running ok. It needs a lot of clean

up

work, but supposedly everything worked ok when it was used last (in
1996). Can anyone suggest a price that I could offer for this?

Seller

seems to want around 1200.00 which sounds like a lot because of all

the

clean up needed and the "unknowns", but I don't want to miss out on

a

good deal. This will be our first camper purchase...we like fixer
uppers, but not money pits.
Thanks for all your comments.

Grab it!!!

From: hilcrest@...
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To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] toyota chinook
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 02:23:25 -0000

I just found a chinook - '76 with 53,000 original miles...it has been
sitting for approx. 5 years and was just put in running condition, i.e.
new fuel pump, battery, rebuilt carb., cleaned fuel lines, checked some
of the hoses. Sounds like it's running ok. It needs a lot of clean up
work, but supposedly everything worked ok when it was used last (in
1996). Can anyone suggest a price that I could offer for this? Seller
seems to want around 1200.00 which sounds like a lot because of all the
clean up needed and the "unknowns", but I don't want to miss out on a
good deal. This will be our first camper purchase...we like fixer
uppers, but not money pits.
Thanks for all your comments.

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If it runs good it sound like a good price to me.

Michael Smith

hilcrest@... wrote:

I just found a chinook - '76 with 53,000 original miles...it has been
sitting for approx. 5 years and was just put in running condition, i.e.
new fuel pump, battery, rebuilt carb., cleaned fuel lines, checked some
of the hoses. Sounds like it's running ok. It needs a lot of clean up
work, but supposedly everything worked ok when it was used last (in
1996). Can anyone suggest a price that I could offer for this? Seller
seems to want around 1200.00 which sounds like a lot because of all the
clean up needed and the "unknowns", but I don't want to miss out on a
good deal. This will be our first camper purchase...we like fixer
uppers, but not money pits.
Thanks for all your comments.

I am very interested in increasing the performance of oue 22re as
well. Please help. Pete and Dolores

So. I recently did some upgrades I want to tell yall about. I
purchased my 1986 21ft Rogue about a month ago. It has 46k miles. in
really nice shape, except for the wimpy rear axle that it came with.
I took it on one small trip to the local mountains. I didn't feel
safe at all, after reading all the post..and knowing that I was
playing russian roulet. Anyhow. I went to the National Highway
safety website and couldn't find any recall on my camper. I know that
it is recalled because my belief is that all the 5 lug rear ends
with bolt together wheels were recalled. I don't know who the
manfacturer of my motorhome is. so no real way to look it up.
Anyhow..I made several calls to TOyota themselves and really got the
run around. I decided to call National Rv. they sold me a rear end
kit for $1000.00. It was the same kit that they use for the recalls.
It comes totally complete..from the brake lines to the
rims..everything there..u bolts and all. I decided to do the install
myself. It was very simple.. everything went exactly in the same
place as the old one did. Just had to make a way to hook up the
emergency brake cables from the new rear end to my cables that were
on my motorhome already. anyhow..it all works great. same gear ratio
and all. It came in a wooden crate from Toyota. you could tell it had
been sitting a while.but was never opened.I installed some new front
and rear shocks..also bought a nice big transmission cooler and
installed it also at the same time. Ready to go now..except for I
have a hole in the muffler..want to replace that.. The total rear end
exchange took about 3 hours. I have a compresser and some air tools
from when I used to do mechanic work for a living..that made it
easier..but I think most anyone could do the exchange. The rear end
came with the shock mounts..that went on the bottom of the u
bolts..just like the old ones did..so..I am ready to go to maybe
Anzaberago ..(spelling) to see the wild flowers..before it is too
hot...just wanted to tell yall how it went..incase the exchange of
the rear end would scare anyone off..it shouldn't.. OH WHAT A
FEELING...TOYOTA!...Tommy

I see that my post to the Travel by Raod Forum got reposted
here. However the hot link to the Toyota Club didn't get
underlined properly. Again the proper link is:



Tika

Owen and Amy,
I would diffently check your tires closely. I had 8 ply tires all the
way around my 86 Escaper when I bought it last May and have had to
replace a few. I did not have blow-outs, but had a couple seperate
causing a very rough ride. I replaced the fronts with regular 4 plys
before vacation. While on vacation in Idaho I had inside passenger
side dually seperate. Luckily found a tire place with 14 inch 8 plys.
I still need to replace the three remaining duallys before summer
travel. The tires all had good tread but were just old, dated 1989 on
tire. You might check to see how old tires are!
Good Luck,
Nate

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The reason you can not find any info on new Toyota motorhomes is that
they don't make them anymore. The last ones were made in 1994, and just
a few in that year. The reason is that the motorhome manufacturing
companies were building bigger and bigger coaches on the back. By the
time the owners would load their own stuff in them too, it was putting
too much weight for the Toyota chassis to handle. Then the rear axles
would break and then the wheels would fly off killing some occupants and
other travelers on the road. In about 1988 or 89 Toyota started putting
a new 1-ton rear end on the truck with a floating axle that helped keep
the wheels on. And they issued a recall for all older chassis to get the
new axles put in too. But eventually the liability got to be too much,
and so Toyota stopped selling the chassis to motorhome makers.

If you are looking to buy one, stick to 1989 or newer. If older, be sure
the one you're buying has had the axle upgraded to 1-ton. (You can tell
by looking at the wheels -- six vs. five lug nuts usually means it is a
new axle.) Also, that is the year they started making V-6 engines which
have a lot more pulling power over the 4-cylinder 22re engines. Some but
not all 1989s have them. Be sure though that your V-6 engine has had
the recall work done on it. (The aluminum head gaskets were warping.)
Also a transmission cooler is a good thing to have/add if you are
carrying/towing extra weight.

The best place to learn more about Toyota motorhomes is on the Yahoo
groups site for Toyota-campers.
-campers/. There are over 1200 postings about Toyota motorhomes. You can
also check out otorhomes. The best
place to find a used one is at www.RVtraderonline.com. Type in "Toyota"
as the keyword (not the manufacturer). Then the best place to find out
what the one you're looking at is worth is to go to www.nadaguides.com
where you can get 5 free "blue book" quotes per day.

There are five main floor plans in the Toyotas with a couple of minor
variations. Get acquainted with them first so you know which one you
like best: -- Rear bath, streetside kitchen, dinette (either front of or
back of door), sofabed -- Rear bath, streetside kitchen, captain's
chair(s) with sofabed or dinette -- Rear bath, dinette, sofabed, front
kitchen -- Corner bath, curbside corner kitchen, dinette or captain's
chairs, sofabed -- Side bath, front kitchen, rear dinette with or
without sofa bed If you know what's out there before you buy, then you
won't later come across a floorplan you like better.

As for prices, you can figure something like this (if the miles are
average): A 1989 from a private party, price about $9000, average miles
= 65,000; 1990 about $10,000; 1991 about $11-12,000; 1992 about $12
-14,000; 1993 on up. Add about $400 for a generator. Add another
$several hundred if the miles are low, or subract as much if the miles
are high. You can expect to pay about $1 -2000 more if you buy from a
dealer, because supposedly they have checked all the systems
thoroughly, and for that extra price they should be giving you some kind
of warranty.

Good luck in your search. Tika


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I saw a Toyota motorhome yesterday that was quite a surprise. It
was an '89 Dolphin model 800 with a generator. The ad said, lo
miles, and a price of $7300. So naturally I called about it. The
owner said it had a V-6, and when I asked about the low miles
he said, well, it really had "a little over 100K miles." When we got
there to look at it though, we discovered it really had more like
167K miles. More importantly however, it had no roof vent cover
such that the interior was weathered, and the floor boards
underneath it were spongy like a trampoline. We didn't bother to
test any of the systems, because we could see there was more
to fix than we cared to do. It had obviously been sitting for quite
some time with a huge 2' spiderweb in the front seat, and a nest
with two live hornets above the bed. It was sad to see one so
terribly neglected.

However, my guess is that if there is anyone out there with time
and talent for restoration he/she could maybe get this one for
half the asking price, and in a very few months time have a
useable unit. It is located in Orange Co. California. Send me an
e-mail if you want to know any more. Tika

Hey Countryden, Welcome to the group.

You did not say what year the Winnebago was, but since it has a
six cyl engine it must be fairly new (1990 or so). The problem
with the weight causing the rear wheel bearings to go out was
solved by the time your camper was built. Just to be sure, go
count the lug nuts on the rear wheels, it should be six. If so,
it has the heavy duty rear axle, and is good for whatever.

You will find in the archives a discussion about failed head
gaskets on the early V6 engines. You may want to ask some
questions regarding the Recall for head gasket replacement, to
see if the Winnebago was effected.

Other than that, it sounds like a great camper. The six cyl gives
more than adequate power, and good gas mileage as well. I hope
you get it, and enjoy it a lot.

Jack R

From: countryden <countryden@...>
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To: toyota-campers@...
Subject: [toyota-campers] winnebago warrior on toyota chasis
Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 19:47:34 -0400

I am thinking about buying the winnebago warrior 21ft on the toyota chasis and was wondering about its reliability and power. I have never owned an RV. any help would be appreciated . Is the 6 cyl eng. enough. thanks countryden

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Hello All,

On our 87 Granville (1 ton rear axel) the tires are:

Light Truck 185R14 6P.R., RD-603 STEEL, 4ply tread, 2ply sidewall

...they have some cracking on the side (not very bad, but bad enough
to notice) and we were wondering if you all would comment on whether
we should buy new tires or not?

We plan on selling our MH at the end of this summer because we bought
it just for this trip.....we plan on buying one in about 5-7 years
when we have a place to store it.

Any advice would be appreciated,

Thanks....owen & amy

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I am thinking about buying the winnebago warrior 21ft on the toyota

chasis and was wondering about its reliability and power. I have never
owned an RV. any help would be appreciated . Is the 6 cyl eng.
enough. thanks countryden

CD.

Welcome to our list.

Come up to the main site. Read the Archives and
back posts, then ask your questions.

Jack A2

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I have never owned a RV and would like to buy this one. People tell
me it won't stand much weight and I will have to replace wheel
bearings also it will lack the power I'll need. would like some
advice.

I was curious if headers helped your mileage or just give you more
power? I have 22RE with a 5 speed, so I'm not considering any
upgrades, just wondering!
Nate

--- In toyota-campers@y..., jacka2@e... wrote:

I have not anywhere seen the HP increase numbers,
but from my experience with other well designed
engines, big power boosts do not come from bolt
on changes. (Superchargers excepted.) A 22re with
internal changes, and a cam, headers etc, can be
made to put out 150 HP. For fun take a look below.

Try this link again.

All the above only applies to the 22re. The 20 and
22r Can always use some bolt on help.

Jack A2

Hi Rosannah,

Regarding the passage of wires through the firewall I found that
there was room to add a couple of wires to the bundle already
going through. I did not have to drill any new holes.

Also, I hope you caught my error on the wire going to the coil.
It connects to the Negative (-) side of the coil. I wrote that
from memory, and sometimes my recaller does not work too good.

Jack R


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