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Re: Rear window glass Sunrader rear dinette

 

Hi Randy,.? a couple things.? Is yours a Sunrader? So I'm wondering exactly where you found leaks using the rtv. I will be using butyl tape, (TackyTape brand), to seal the window frame to the fiberglass shell, but that is way too bulky for me to use between the glass and the frame, because it can'r squeexe down far enough to make room for the rubber glazing to fit in place.

Also, what is ss and ds? I don't know what you are referring to, glass?

Probably most important, can you tell me exactly which butyl product you used? do you still have the tube? and where did you get it?

Thanks Doug
Re: Rear window glass Sunrader rear dinette

 

hey doug, i know the rtv is a bad idea as i used it on all the windows. less than a year later they all leak. the rtv seams to have shrunk.? i did redo my overcab front glass because the plastic bubble window broke in half. i used some butyl auto bedding in a caulk tube to bed the clear poly i replaced the bubble with?
?couldn't use glass as anything better than ss is too thick, and being in front it needed at least laminated ds .? so far the butyl was no different to apply, and
so far no leaks
? ?randy
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rz
Re: Rear window glass Sunrader rear dinette

 

Robert, thanks for your response.?
I have the glass out of the metal frame. If you look at the other postings I have made on this issue, you’ll see about where I’m at.
One thing I haven’t mentioned yet though is that the construction of the metal/aluminum frame isn’t entirely/perfectly symmetrical,
nor is the glass cut out of a cookie cutter. The frame on mine seems to have distorted a little where the corners are bent, so that there ends up being a bit more space in those areas and that could cause leakage. Also since each piece of glass is cut separately, and sanded some it seems to me that the positioning of the window into the frame can be done in one of four ways. I’ve tried mine in two of those positions, ie. lifting the glass out of the frame and leaving the same side up, rotating the glass horizontally 180 degrees. Neither of those first two have worked out well enough to get the glazing in all the way around, so I will be flipping the glass over and trying the two I haven’t gotten to yet. ?Any suggestions you have will be appreciated on any of this stuff.

Can you suggest a specific product for sealing the glass to the frame that will take up little or no measurable space?
Re: Rear window glass Sunrader rear dinette

 

rz, tell me why you think there’s something wrong with rtv. ?That’s an alternative I have been considering. Read my response to Linda in this thread and you’ll see why I’m not so keen on butyl. It’s a great sealant, but it seems to take up too much room, so you can easily end up not being able to get the rubber glazing strip in place. Please tell me about what butyl product you are considering as I would much rather have butyl in there if I can find something very thin. ?Just a bead of clear silicone might do the trick, I’m asking around.
Re: Rear window glass Sunrader rear dinette

 

Buzz, Thanks for your reply. ?

?Linda is right about the configuration of the Sunrader rear window. Check out my response to her about this and you’ll get a better idea of what I’m dealing with. ??
Re: Rear window glass Sunrader rear dinette

 

Yes I did Linda, ?back in 2017. Back then I followed your advice and used a “ribbon” of butyl tape you suggested, between the glass and the frame. That stuff was really great for waterproofing and also for keeping the glass from ever falling out, but it was hell to squeeze down far enough to get the rubber glazing to fit into both the glass and the frame at the same time. It took a lot of work with a heat gun (even on a hot August day in So. Cal) to soften it up enough to get the rubber glazing ?in place. Even then, after awhile the glazing started coming out. The bright side, it wasn’t going to let the window come out even with the rubber glazing completely out of there.?

But now 5-1/2 years later, I’ve decided it’s time for a redo, and I took the window off of the shell and and the glass out of the frame, and cleaned everything up real nice. I bought some new glazing rubber (I thought was the right one) from Pelland and although There’s another option which I ordered today, I’m not happy with the results I’m getting test fitting the first one. #1 it barely fits in place with nothing between the glass and the frame, and #2 it bunches up going around the corners. So even if the fit was perfect on the straight sections, the corners would surely let water in, and without any sealant between the glass and the frame water would get past the window.?

So, having been told by a guy at Trimlok that those windows were supposed to “just fall out” if you took the rubber out, no sealant required, I’m not at all comfortable without any sealant between the glass and the frame on mine because so far, I can’t depend on the rubber I’ve tried to stay in.

I like what you said briefly to Buzz I think, about “sealant similar to windshield sealant”, I guess I’ll need to google that.
If you know of a specific product that can go on very thinly, I’d like to know about that. ?
Re: Rear window glass Sunrader rear dinette

 

?Doug, are you talking about Out of the Sunrader fiberglass body frame?, or out of the metal frame? I'm in Brookings OR also, with an 86 RD Sunrader, and have redone all the glass windows and every other orifice from the running lights to the water intakes, to the storage, refer, heater, ect, I emailed you privately with my contact info.
Re: Rear window glass Sunrader rear dinette

 

i just found out i should not have used black rtv to bed the glass.? now i have to reseal all of them with butyl rubber bedding
like i should have done in the first place
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rz
Re: Rear window glass Sunrader rear dinette

 

Buzz I have never seen an RV window constructed as you describe. No sandwich of frame enclosing the glass. Glass is completely held in place by sealant similar to windshield sealant and stabilized with window glazing bead. The only screws involved are in the trim ring which holds the frame to the camper walls .
Linda S
Re: Rear window glass Sunrader rear dinette

 

Doug, I thought you did. Didn't you reset the glass on your big window?
Linda S
Re: Rear window glass Sunrader rear dinette

 

If it's like the rear glass on the 1986 Dolphin 500 (rear dinette) I used to own,
it is no different than any of the other coach windows.

The glass is the "filling" of a sandwich with the inner and outer as the "bread."

To take out the glass, you remove all the screws holding the inner and outer frames
together. Reinstallation is the reverse of removal. Because the rear window is so
large, this job should probably be done with two people. One to remove the scews
and the other to hold the glass in place.

Also, if you are removing the window, it's a good idea to clean off the old putty
sealing the outer window frame and install fresh putty tape.

Good luck,

Buzz L.
Phoenix, AZ
Former 1986 Dollphin, 1989 HiLux, and 1996 Tacoma owner
Rear window glass Sunrader rear dinette

 

Has anyone had the glass out of the frame, (and put it back in) on Sunrader rear dinette models?
Any words of wisdom you can share about your experience getting it back in?
Facebook Toyota Motorhome Club vs Toyota Campers Group

 

Hi, I am sorry Tika, I have not been on Toyota Campers for years it seems. I just realized that Toyota Motorhome Club on Facebook is not a continuation of Toyota Campers Group. I had to dig in my yahoo emails to find Toyota Campers Group. I have really appreciated the info available in this group. I hope that the moderators here think about posting about this group on Facebook Toyota Motorhome Club maybe once a month. There is a great files section here that has accumulated lots of good info over the years. I put my 1985 Dolphin Manual there. Take care everybody.
Re: Automatic question.

 

Isn't there an overdrive on off button on the end of the windshield wiper control arm? Have you tried that?
Re: Automatic question.

 
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The transmission on the 22re engine is designed with a switch that automatically disables the overdrive when you drive to high elevations. ?Usually it de-activates starting at about 4000 to 4500 feet. ?If you are actually in the Netherlands at almost sea level, then it sounds like that switch is faulty.
Re: Automatic question.

 


Always go by the tire pressure that is on the sides of your tires as a guide. ?Fill to no less than 85%. ?If they are 65 lb tires, then 55 lb to 60 lb is a good pressure. ?Any less than that and the rear tires can start to rub together if there is any unnoticed loss of pressure. ?If the tires are rated less (like 50 lbs), then fill to 85-90% of that.
Automatic question.

 

Hi, I'm from the Netherlands and here is local few to no info on my Toyota Sunrader. It's a 87 2,4 efi automatic. I bought it a few months ago and did 2 trips.
I think there is a issue with the overdrive, it does not respond to the switch on the gear selector, since it has never worked I don't know if it is always on or off, the OD light above the radio burns when switching on the lights.

Other question, what is the preferred Tyre pressure for the 6 lugs rear axle?

I hope someone can help

Thanks Paul
Re: Seeking Gran Sport or Sandtana

 

Am at my southwestern New Mexico property and my Sandtana is about 330 mikes away at my northern New Mexico property so I can't measure this for certainty. But am pretty sure that with top tilted up you have at least 6'6" floor to ceiling clearance when standing at the stove and sink, more than enough for most people. I do have to lean slightly forward when standing inside with the top down. But only slightly, and I'm 5'10".
Re: Seeking Gran Sport or Sandtana

 

Well, on mine the cheap hinges were screwed into small pieces of wood that rotted out, so I just foamed and glued the top down. (sides were trashed as well). Any hokey thing you do to reverse it can't be worst than stock! Just don't drive it that way.


On Sat, Feb 3, 2024 at 10:34?AM Tika via <tika_ee=[email protected]> wrote:

For a long time I have been musing about whether the tilt-top portion on these could be reversed front-to-back.? It would seem much more advantageous to have the tallest ”ceiling” be behind the driver where the kitchen is, rather than over the rear dinettte where you can only sit rather than stand. . . ? Just sayin’.

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Re: Seeking Gran Sport or Sandtana

 
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For a long time I have been musing about whether the tilt-top portion on these could be reversed front-to-back. ?It would seem much more advantageous to have the tallest ”ceiling” be at the front where the kitchen and bath is, rather than over the rear dinettte where you can only sit rather than stand. . . ? Just sayin’. . . ?Bandit pop-tops and Odyssey Starlight side tilt-tops have an even height when opened?front to back.

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