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Re: Valve Adjustment, AGAIN

 

Sweet. My SpiritLump meets those specs.? Ty again.?


On Sun, Nov 26, 2023, 11:58 AM rz <zaveson@...> wrote:
rule of thumb.? all compression numbers within 10% of each other, and all over 100
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rz


Re: Valve Adjustment, AGAIN

 

rule of thumb.? all compression numbers within 10% of each other, and all over 100
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rz


Re: Valve Adjustment, AGAIN

 

Ty Paul. May get him to do it anyway in spring due to my mileage,? plus he owes me some hours as we exchange labor lol.? I won't sweat the 120 reading then


On Sun, Nov 26, 2023, 11:22 AM Paul Cherubini <monarch@...> wrote:


On Nov 26, 2023, at 10:15 AM, d.meeker66@... wrote:

Hey Paul,? I don't speak motor so probably stupid question.?
Had my compression checked on my '91 Spirit,? 90k, they
were all very close to 120psi. Mechanic seems to think that’s
OK, your opinion? Would adjusting valves improve compression?
Ty Dan

That’s good news. Your actual compression numbers were
likely much higher, but your mechanic didn’t use the correct
measuring procedure to get high readings.? Adjusting valves
wouldn’t improve numbers that are normal to begin with.

Paul


Re: Valve Adjustment, AGAIN

 

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On Nov 26, 2023, at 10:15 AM, d.meeker66@... wrote:

Hey Paul,? I don't speak motor so probably stupid question.?
Had my compression checked on my '91 Spirit,? 90k, they
were all very close to 120psi. Mechanic seems to think that’s
OK, your opinion? Would adjusting valves improve compression?
Ty Dan

That’s good news. Your actual compression numbers were
likely much higher, but your mechanic didn’t use the correct
measuring procedure to get high readings. ?Adjusting valves
wouldn’t improve numbers that are normal to begin with.

Paul


Re: Valve Adjustment, AGAIN

 

Hey Paul,? I don't speak motor so probably stupid question.? Had my compression checked on my '91 Spirit,? 90k, they were all very close to 120psi. Mechanic seems to think that's OK, your opinion? Would adjusting valves improve compression?
Ty Dan

On Sun, Nov 26, 2023, 10:36 AM Paul Cherubini <monarch@...> wrote:
It may be difficult to find a mechanic in rural Georgia
that is experienced with 30 year old Toyota engines.?

If you want to be pro-active, have the valve clearances measured?
manually by removing the two valve covers to gain access
to the mechanical valve lifters. Especially check
the six exhaust valve clearances. ?

I guess you’ll just have to call around different shops and
ask if they have anyone experienced and willing to
measure the clearances on a 30 year old Toyota 3VZ-E
V6 overhead cam engine.

Or if you can’t find anyone, call around and
ask if they have anyone that can do a cylinder compression
test on a 30 year old Toyota 3VZ-E V6 overhead cam engine.

If compression is high and even (around 170-190 psi) on all
six cylinders then you can be pretty certain the motor can be
driven another 15,000 - 30,000 miles without adjusting clearances.

But if some cylinders are trending lower psi, then it’s important
to get the exhaust valve clearances on the affected cylinders?
loosened?up by installing a thinner valve adjusting metal shim.

Here is a long video about checking and adjusting valve clearances
on a 24 valve version of your Toyhome V6 - in fact - it's the same
5VZ-FE engine that’s in your 2002 4Runner.? At the 1:10 mark they
talk about how the cylinder compression was restored on cylinders
that had their valve clearances adjusted.
?

Paul Cherubini








On Nov 26, 2023, at 8:53 AM, drscrowe via <drscrowe@...> wrote:

Sorry to pester y'all about V6 valve adjustments, but here goes. The 1993 Warrior has 100K miles on it, and I doubt anyone has ever looked at the valves. My local old mechanic said they "sounded fine," the rig runs great, and to leave them alone. However, someone on Facebook (!) said that you couldn't hear the valves on these campers go bad, and to check the compression.

I have a new mechanic and sent the camper to him yesterday, to see if he could figure out why the check engine light was on (old mechanic couldn't, said to put tape across it -- as did everyone in my family -- but that bugs me). I added a note to the keys at the drop box asking if he could check the compression.

Assuming the compression is still good, should the valves be "adjusted?" I love the camper and am trying to be proactive -- put a new V6 engine in my 2002 Toyota 4Runner and it was a little over $6K and took nearly 5 months!

Thanks,
Sue Crowe
Talking Rock GA


Re: Valve Adjustment, AGAIN

 

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It may be difficult to find a mechanic in rural Georgia
that is experienced with 30 year old Toyota engines.?

If you want to be pro-active, have the valve clearances measured?
manually by removing the two valve covers to gain access
to the mechanical valve lifters. Especially check
the six exhaust valve clearances. ?

I guess you’ll just have to call around different shops and
ask if they have anyone experienced and willing to
measure the clearances on a 30 year old Toyota 3VZ-E
V6 overhead cam engine.

Or if you can’t find anyone, call around and
ask if they have anyone that can do a cylinder compression
test on a 30 year old Toyota 3VZ-E V6 overhead cam engine.

If compression is high and even (around 170-190 psi) on all
six cylinders then you can be pretty certain the motor can be
driven another 15,000 - 30,000 miles without adjusting clearances.

But if some cylinders are trending lower psi, then it’s important
to get the exhaust valve clearances on the affected cylinders?
loosened?up by installing a thinner valve adjusting metal shim.

Here is a long video about checking and adjusting valve clearances
on a 24 valve version of your Toyhome V6 - in fact - it's the same
5VZ-FE engine that’s in your 2002 4Runner. ?At the 1:10 mark they
talk about how the cylinder compression was restored on cylinders
that had their valve clearances adjusted.
?

Paul Cherubini








On Nov 26, 2023, at 8:53 AM, drscrowe via <drscrowe@...> wrote:

Sorry to pester y'all about V6 valve adjustments, but here goes. The 1993 Warrior has 100K miles on it, and I doubt anyone has ever looked at the valves. My local old mechanic said they "sounded fine," the rig runs great, and to leave them alone. However, someone on Facebook (!) said that you couldn't hear the valves on these campers go bad, and to check the compression.

I have a new mechanic and sent the camper to him yesterday, to see if he could figure out why the check engine light was on (old mechanic couldn't, said to put tape across it -- as did everyone in my family -- but that bugs me). I added a note to the keys at the drop box asking if he could check the compression.

Assuming the compression is still good, should the valves be "adjusted?" I love the camper and am trying to be proactive -- put a new V6 engine in my 2002 Toyota 4Runner and it was a little over $6K and took nearly 5 months!

Thanks,
Sue Crowe
Talking Rock GA


Re: Valve Adjustment, AGAIN

 

as your valves wear, the clearance between them and the camshaft reduces. if it gets to zero, the valves will be held open resulting in burnt valve which will cause a compression drop. you will not hear it coming.? have the clearance checked
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rz


Valve Adjustment, AGAIN

 

Sorry to pester y'all about V6 valve adjustments, but here goes. The 1993 Warrior has 100K miles on it, and I doubt anyone has ever looked at the valves. My local old mechanic said they "sounded fine," the rig runs great, and to leave them alone. However, someone on Facebook (!) said that you couldn't hear the valves on these campers go bad, and to check the compression.

I have a new mechanic and sent the camper to him yesterday, to see if he could figure out why the check engine light was on (old mechanic couldn't, said to put tape across it -- as did everyone in my family -- but that bugs me). I added a note to the keys at the drop box asking if he could check the compression.

Assuming the compression is still good, should the valves be "adjusted?" I love the camper and am trying to be proactive -- put a new V6 engine in my 2002 Toyota 4Runner and it was a little over $6K and took nearly 5 months!

Thanks,
Sue Crowe
Talking Rock GA


Re: Happy Thanksgiving Leftovers Day!

 

A great excuse for me to keep both of my campers -- now I just need a home out west! Thank you all for the help you have given me all these years, and Happy Thanksgiving!
Sue Crowe
Talking Rock GA


Thanksgivings, usa

 

Happy holiday season to all our American RV friends. Enjoys! And thank you to all contributors. We are rarely on here since our Itasca is in storage, but grateful for the group.?


Re: Happy Thanksgiving Leftovers Day!

 

That sounds awesome! Hope you keep a diary. Happy holidays?

On Fri, Nov 24, 2023 at 5:37 AM Tika via <tika_ee=[email protected]> wrote:

To everyone eating turkey sandwiches today, your moderators hope you had a happy Thanksgiving. My husband Tom and I are visiting Illinois and had a nice meal with your other moderator Steve and his family.? Counting some ?additional Toyota RV friends (George and Georgia), we had 12 in total.? Steve cooked the turkey, but by the time we all got done, there was no turkey left! ?


Tom and I are not done yet with RVing in the mid-west this season, and are making one more short trip next week before we winterize our Itasca for storage. Then it is flying back to California for the sunshine and to be RVing with our E-Z Ryder.? A few years ago we decided that driving an RV back and forth twice a year was a bit too time-consuming, so that’s why we now have a Toyota RV in each region.? We love them both!

Tika
Owner-moderator, Toyota-campers group


--
Chuck Bridges


Happy Thanksgiving Leftovers Day!

 
Edited

To everyone eating turkey sandwiches today, your moderators hope you had a happy Thanksgiving. My husband Tom and I are visiting Illinois and had a nice meal with your other moderator Steve and his family. ?Counting some additional Toyota RV friends (George and Georgia), we had 12 in total. ?Steve cooked the turkey, but by the time we all got done, there was no turkey left! ?


Tom and I are not done yet with RVing in the mid-west this season, and are making one more short trip next week before we winterize our Itasca for storage. Then it is flying back to California for the sunshine and to be RVing with our E-Z Ryder. ?A few years ago we decided that driving an RV back and forth twice a year was a bit too time-consuming, so that’s why we now have a Toyota RV in each region. ?We love them both!

Tika
Owner-moderator, Toyota-campers group


Re: Amazon.com : Magnetic Gas Level Indicator Reusable Propane Fuel Level Indicators Propane Tank Gauge Level Indicator Propane Tank Sensor for Home Kitchen Tool (2 Pieces) : Tools & Home Improvement

 

Just what I need, thanks so much!!!? Diana

On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 09:46:46 AM PST, Robert Himler <binrydin@...> wrote:


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Amazon.com : Magnetic Gas Level Indicator Reusable Propane Fuel Level Indicators Propane Tank Gauge Level Indicator Propane Tank Sensor for Home Kitchen Tool (2 Pieces) : Tools & Home Improvement

 

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Re: Propane tank gauge reads low doesn't accept propane? AND entry step rusting.

 

If it is the gauge you need a new one. The way these work, there is no physical connection to the gauge you see. There is a magnetic connection from a float inside the tank to the gauge outside the tank. You'll need to determine the manufacturer of the gauge or maybe the tank to do any serious research.

Lacking that resource you'll probably end up buying a complete new tank assembly.

Aaron from Colorado


Re: Propane tank gauge reads low doesn't accept propane? AND entry step rusting.

 

Just sent photo.


On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 08:07:22 AM PST, Diana Zutell <dianaleez9@...> wrote:




On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 06:33:25 AM PST, Diana Zutell via groups.io <dianaleez9@...> wrote:


Hi, finally got around to seriously addressing this problem unfortunately I am at square one!? It must be the gauge, it did move a bit lower after a cold trip using more propane than usual.? Called all over town for help...only one business works on propane issues and he is not highly recommended???
Anyway, tried to fill it once more, same thing took a couple shots of propane and quit.? Concensus of opinion...full tank.??

So...should I let the issue solve itself and freeze to death in the future when the tank runs out or try to get a new valve or visit the non recommended junk yard RV guy?? Great fun living in a small community when you have any kind of repair issue on anything!

Thank you all for your advice on this dilemma.? HELP!? Diana on the Oregon Coast

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 11:41:42 AM PDT, mlhazel1155 via groups.io <mlhazel1155@...> wrote:


I also had this issue several times but only at gas station buying propane. I have a newer tank and regulater. Went to propane dealer and all was fine. Dealer (I've gone to same one for years) says this happening more frequently as gas station employees don't have proper training. Just a thought. Good luck


On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 6:55 AM, Aaron Thoroman via groups.io
<n4imb@...> wrote:
Please post a picture of the gauge so we see what you're dealing with. There is a float valve in the tank that shuts off propane fill, perhaps the gauge is broken and your tank is nearly full even though the gauge says otherwise.?

Aaron from Colorado?


Re: Propane tank gauge reads low doesn't accept propane? AND entry step rusting.

 



On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 06:33:25 AM PST, Diana Zutell via groups.io <dianaleez9@...> wrote:


Hi, finally got around to seriously addressing this problem unfortunately I am at square one!? It must be the gauge, it did move a bit lower after a cold trip using more propane than usual.? Called all over town for help...only one business works on propane issues and he is not highly recommended???
Anyway, tried to fill it once more, same thing took a couple shots of propane and quit.? Concensus of opinion...full tank.??

So...should I let the issue solve itself and freeze to death in the future when the tank runs out or try to get a new valve or visit the non recommended junk yard RV guy?? Great fun living in a small community when you have any kind of repair issue on anything!

Thank you all for your advice on this dilemma.? HELP!? Diana on the Oregon Coast

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 11:41:42 AM PDT, mlhazel1155 via groups.io <mlhazel1155@...> wrote:


I also had this issue several times but only at gas station buying propane. I have a newer tank and regulater. Went to propane dealer and all was fine. Dealer (I've gone to same one for years) says this happening more frequently as gas station employees don't have proper training. Just a thought. Good luck


On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 6:55 AM, Aaron Thoroman via groups.io
<n4imb@...> wrote:
Please post a picture of the gauge so we see what you're dealing with. There is a float valve in the tank that shuts off propane fill, perhaps the gauge is broken and your tank is nearly full even though the gauge says otherwise.?

Aaron from Colorado?


Re: Propane tank gauge reads low doesn't accept propane? AND entry step rusting.

 

Wow, what an idea, thanks!
Diana

On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 06:44:07 AM PST, rz <zaveson@...> wrote:


fire up everything propane and wait 20 min , the feel the side of the tank? there should be a frost line at the level of the liquid propane
--
rz


Re: Propane tank gauge reads low doesn't accept propane? AND entry step rusting.

 

fire up everything propane and wait 20 min , the feel the side of the tank? there should be a frost line at the level of the liquid propane
--
rz


Re: Propane tank gauge reads low doesn't accept propane? AND entry step rusting.

 

Hi, finally got around to seriously addressing this problem unfortunately I am at square one!? It must be the gauge, it did move a bit lower after a cold trip using more propane than usual.? Called all over town for help...only one business works on propane issues and he is not highly recommended???
Anyway, tried to fill it once more, same thing took a couple shots of propane and quit.? Concensus of opinion...full tank.??

So...should I let the issue solve itself and freeze to death in the future when the tank runs out or try to get a new valve or visit the non recommended junk yard RV guy?? Great fun living in a small community when you have any kind of repair issue on anything!

Thank you all for your advice on this dilemma.? HELP!? Diana on the Oregon Coast

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 11:41:42 AM PDT, mlhazel1155 via groups.io <mlhazel1155@...> wrote:


I also had this issue several times but only at gas station buying propane. I have a newer tank and regulater. Went to propane dealer and all was fine. Dealer (I've gone to same one for years) says this happening more frequently as gas station employees don't have proper training. Just a thought. Good luck


On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 6:55 AM, Aaron Thoroman via groups.io
<n4imb@...> wrote:
Please post a picture of the gauge so we see what you're dealing with. There is a float valve in the tank that shuts off propane fill, perhaps the gauge is broken and your tank is nearly full even though the gauge says otherwise.?

Aaron from Colorado?