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Current market value of these toyhouses

 

I've read as many of the past threads here as I can find on the topic of market value of these toyhouses but it appears that some things may have changed in the last year or two, in particular demand for these toyhouses may be up while supply is way down.

So, what is the current thinking on the topic of how to value these things?

Ours is a 1991 Warrior, V6 auto, in good shape, no rust, new fridge, everything works except the heater isn't very reliable.? Total miles is 61,000 +/-.? It gets 13-14 mpg.? No leaks that I can find.

It's currently insured for $8500 and I'm thinking that might be a bit low.? I'm setting up a meeting with our insurance agent to go over all of our insurance needs (home and other vehicles besides the toyhouse) and am looking to perhaps raise coverage (but by how much?).

I'm having trouble finding a website that will provide a "book" value for that year and model.? The only one I've found is J. D. Power, no NADA and no Kelly Blue Book.? J. D. Power claims a current average retail "book" value of just $2710 which of course is ridiculous.? Most of the asking prices on places like RV Trader seem to range from $10K up to $18K with some outliers a lot higher and somewhat lower than that.? But of course, we know those are "asking" prices and not necessarily "getting" prices.

Rick in NH


Re: Flat-towing a Dolphin MH

 

I'm not entirely clear on one thing... if you idle the engine while towing, in neutral (auto trans), is that sufficient to prevent damage to the trasmission?

Seems like paying $2/hr for gas to idle the engine beats paying someone to disconnect and reconnect the driveshaft (unable to do it myself).


Re: Fixing broken toyhouse window glass

 

I received the following from one of those local glass shops:

"We do work on RVs, mostly windshields. It would be something we would need to look at, some side/back windows in RVs are not replaceable alone and require a full system replacement. We work on RVs through insurance only due to us having no warranty or guarantee on RV work as they are not always structurally sound."

So, as I suspected, local glass shops aren't always the go-to solution.? Not sure what they mean exactly by "full system replacement", I guess that's the window frame and all.? Good luck finding one of those for a 32-year-old toyhouse.


Re: Fixing broken toyhouse window glass

 

Most local glass companies can have a custom tempered glass made for you as long as it is flat. Take accurate measurements of the actual glass and a picture. Some people use Lexan/Plexiglass, but that could be dangerous in a wreck since the Lexan could possibly splinter and stab someone. Tempered glass is much safer. I will shatter into hundreds of small pieces of glass.


Re: Fixing broken toyhouse window glass

 

On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 10:29 AM, ToyotaMama wrote:
Try a local glass shop
I suppose a local glass shop might be able to replace the front cabover glass correctly and without leaks, but what about the side sliding windows with the latches?? Seems like that'd be a specialty that'd be beyond the capabilities of the local general repair glass shop.


Re: Fixing broken toyhouse window glass

 

if you have a bubble window in front, glass shop won't help. it's too thin. i used lexan from a hardware store.? have to cut it out; but not too hard to do
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rz


Re: Fixing broken toyhouse window glass

 

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Try a local glass shop


On Aug 8, 2023, at 8:19 AM, fld@... wrote:

?A hypothetical question, at least for now... :-O

If I were to break the cabover front window on a toyhouse, or any of the sliding windows, where would I go to get them replaced?

Eric in NH


Fixing broken toyhouse window glass

 

A hypothetical question, at least for now... :-O

If I were to break the cabover front window on a toyhouse, or any of the sliding windows, where would I go to get them replaced?

Eric in NH


Re: 60K-mile valve adjust, Toyota V6 Auto

 

I've had two toy homes one 91 & one 92, basically identical. The 1st one was really nice, but it had 120k miles on it. I bought it in 2010. I joined the forum and learned about the notorious valve adjustment. Even back in 2010 the RV was considered old. I called every dealership within 100 miles of my house. I got different answers from most of them. You could tell that they were not knowledgeable about them. I finally found a dealership, the last call I made. They said that they had an mechanic that was very familiar with those older motors. I asked if I could talk to him, they surprisingly said sure. He got on the phone and I explained what I had, he said, yep, we made some small talk and I remember him saying that you need to check those valves with the motor cold. That was the key for me that he knew what he was talking about. I don't remember what the cost of that one was, I sold that RV and gave the buyer all the receipts with it.

Toyhome #2 is also very nice and it only had 61k miles on it. The 1st thing I did was put 6 new tires on it and made an appointment with the dealership to get the valves adjusted. This was in 2013. I called and luckily the mechanic was still there. I found the parts cheaper from another Toyota dealership, and they didn't mind if I brought my own parts, but they would not warranty them. They just charged me labor to install them. I asked the mechanic to show me the before and after valve clearances. He drew me a picture(see photos)

I drove it until it had 86k on it. I overheated it on a trip to North Carolina in 2019. The fan clutch went bad causing it to overheat and burned a couple valves(compression was low in two cyl). That's when I had a decision, repair the 3.0 or do the 3.4 swap.

If it was mine, I would just keep an eye on your compression numbers. Buy an inexpensive screw in compression tester and monitor your #6 cyl. I think that's the passenger side rear one. I think #6 is the most common to burn. Once a year I would just check it. If it goes down to 150, then I would have them adjusted.?
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JohnJab01


Re: Removal of Onan 2800 from Dolphin

 

The gremlin is really messing with me now. I suspect he’s monitoring this forum. After reinstalling the generator last night and then today restoring the new carburetor’s original float and plunger; two quick presses on the Start and it fired up and ran perfectly for 10 minutes until I killed it. So I’m baffled if this gremlin is actually dead. Wife’s comment “time will tell” is smart. This successful test was with the Dolphin parked on an upslope, front end higher. This has been the angle where its operation was marginal to dead. If the generator indeed proves itself reliable over the longer term then perhaps there was a restrictive kink in the fuel line or some other oddity that I luckily straightened out during my generator removal/reinstall exercise. We shall see. I’ll fire it up every few days and see how it goes. If it sputters again I might focus on the fuel pump. Thanks to your earlier coaching I now know how to yank the whole thing out the RV pretty quickly.?

Chuck


Re: Removal of Onan 2800 from Dolphin

 

i had a bad starter drive.? ?
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rz couldn't find a replacement so i bought a new starter.? still have the old one


Re: Removal of Onan 2800 from Dolphin

 

Well I suppose I just graduated from “Pull and Re-install Your RV Generator” college. Even used plywood scraps on a metal stand to support it, harkening back to the college days VW engine removal. What I learned was the starter must have had one armature spot where it lacks continuity because once I pulled it and tested it separately (also testing the solenoid relay) it spun up strongly. So to get back to carburetor testing where this all began, I reinstalled the generator with the same starter, for now. That was a good exercise. Thanks for the gen removal guidance. I’ll let you know how the carb troubleshooting goes, or whatever the gremlin is. ?Chuck?


Re: Removal of Onan 2800 from Dolphin

 

the flat connector has squeeze tabs on each end holding it on.? one toward you and one to the back
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rz


Re: Removal of Onan 2800 from Dolphin

 

while mine was out i added connectors to the wires so if i need to remove it in the future i wont have a problem?
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rz


Re: Removal of Onan 2800 from Dolphin

 

Thanks for the pdf’d manual and thanks for the vote of confidence. Got the mounting bolts off and trying to disconnect the electrical connector that’s (of course) located in the rear left corner of the generator where it’s tough to reach. Don’t want to break it. Must be a latching tab of some sort on it. I made a Yankee screwdriver using a Philips bit and vice grips and got the top cover loose hoping I could lift it enough to get at the starter but no luck on avoiding removal. My intent is to swing/slide it out onto an equal height work surface, swap out the starter and get back to troubleshooting the oddball angle sensitive carburetor issue. Most of this hasn’t been touched in 33 years. The Dolphin is a neat package. Once the generator is repaired I’ll like it even better.?

Chuck


Re: 60K-mile valve adjust, Toyota V6 Auto

 

Maybe that’s what happened with mine. It came with no records because they were going to crush it just to get rid of it. I was very lucky that the wrecker driver knew that I like Toyotas so he called me and I got it basically for the title work costs. But no records?

On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 9:13 AM <fld@...> wrote:
On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 09:20 AM, Charles Bridges wrote:
Toyota dealership mechanic that said he did hundreds of the head gasket recalls and they would check the shims at the same time and almost never had to do anything.
Thanks, Chuck.? What seems odd is that when they did the head gasket recall (in 2002 and 33K miles) they listed 5 new shims on the list of parts they presumably charged Toyota for (they were all shown on the bill as N/C so I didn't pay for them).? So either they found 5 valves that were out of spec, or they charged Toyota for parts they didn't install.

Seems odd that they would have to replace 5 shims at only 33K miles.

The work order doesn't say which ones they replaced or whether they were intake or exhaust.


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Chuck Bridges


Re: 60K-mile valve adjust, Toyota V6 Auto

 

On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 09:20 AM, Charles Bridges wrote:
Toyota dealership mechanic that said he did hundreds of the head gasket recalls and they would check the shims at the same time and almost never had to do anything.
Thanks, Chuck.? What seems odd is that when they did the head gasket recall (in 2002 and 33K miles) they listed 5 new shims on the list of parts they presumably charged Toyota for (they were all shown on the bill as N/C so I didn't pay for them).? So either they found 5 valves that were out of spec, or they charged Toyota for parts they didn't install.

Seems odd that they would have to replace 5 shims at only 33K miles.

The work order doesn't say which ones they replaced or whether they were intake or exhaust.


Re: 60K-mile valve adjust, Toyota V6 Auto

 

I was told the same thing, just drive it. This was from a Toyota dealership mechanic that said he did hundreds of the head gasket recalls and they would check the shims at the same time and almost never had to do anything. Still it makes me nervous to not know. The estimates that I got were around $1700 .

On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 12:21 PM <fld@...> wrote:
I just got an estimate, sight-unseen, from a local repair shop (call it "Shop A") for $450-$550 to do the 60K-mile valve adjustment.

Another shop ("Shop B"), that specializes in Toyotas but had turned the job down because they are too busy and don't want to work on something that old, told me "If (Shop A) only quoted $500 then they have no clue what they are doing. To do that job correctly will take a long time 10+ hours if they actually make shim adjustments.? Only way to adjust the valves is replace a shim with thicker or thinner shims.".

So what do you all think?? Is $500 ridiculously low for this job and Shop A probably really doesn't know what they are doing?? Note that Shop B had already turned the job down so it's not like they're trying to drum up business.

Shop B (the Toyota specialist) also said "I would save your money and just drive it.".? Is that valid advice?

I'm not hearing any unusual noises that would indicate the valve adjustment is too loose, but someone on this forum mentioned that if the valve adjustment is too tight it could result in a valve not fully closing which can burn the valve while not making any noise.

Is that a valid concern and a good reason to have the service done at 60K miles as recommended?

I get it that Toyota makes these recommendations for a reason... but sometimes the reason is their lawyer told them to.

Eric in NH
1991 Winnebago Warrior V6 auto


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Chuck Bridges


Re: 60K-mile valve adjust, Toyota V6 Auto

 

On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 09:05 PM, Paul Cherubini wrote:
Time does not matter. If it was my motorhome I’d still get the
clearances checked now at 60,000 for $500 because back at
30,000 none valves were likely out of adjustment so none
were likely actually adjusted back then.
Thanks, Paul.? They put in 5 new shims as part of the cylinder head gasket recall (or at least they charged Toyota for 5 new shims), so presumably something got measured and adjusted.

If you do not want to spend the $500 right now then as Tika mentioned
a cylinder compression test can be done instead.
We had a compression check done about 4000 miles and 1 year ago and the results were:? 1=170, 2=160,?3=170,?4=160,?5=165, 6=155.

Anyway, it'll be more like $1000 than $500.? The guy that quoted $450-$550 didn't even know that the valves are adjusted with shims.

He said "on toyotas the exhaust spec measured between the rocker arm and the valve keeper..." but these are OHC engines, no rocker arms, right?? Aren't all Toyota V6 engines OHC?

He went on to say "shims aren't usually used on the toyota motors, but then again it's an old motor...".? So obviously he's inexperienced with our toyhouse engines.

EVERYbody else around here either (a) can't fit the toyhouse into their shop, and/or (b) is booked out to Christmas, and/or (c) just doesn't want to mess with it.? So, it's back to the $165/hr dealer, if I'm going to do this at all.


Re: 60K-mile valve adjust, Toyota V6 Auto

 

On Jul 21, 2023, at 5:24 PM, fld@... wrote:


BUT... the manual recommends doing it every 72 months (6 years)
regardless of miles. How important is that?
Time does not matter. If it was my motorhome I’d still get the
clearances checked now at 60,000 for $500 because back at
30,000 none valves were likely out of adjustment so none
were likely actually adjusted back then.

If you do not want to spend the $500 right now then as Tika mentioned
a cylinder compression test can be done instead.

If any on the cylinders test low (under about 150 psi or low normal
(150-170) then chances are the exhaust valve clearance on that
cylinder is too tight and needs adjusting (loosening) via installing
a thinner valve adjusting shim.

Paul Cherubini