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WinSpectrum III spectrum analyzer application designed for Windows users working with Tiny SA Ultra+

 

Fair enough, least not vulnerable being kept off the internet. I believe Win10 support finishes up soon.
Cheers Dave

On Mon, 24 Mar 2025, 1:45?pm John Cunliffe W7ZQ via , <w7zq=[email protected]> wrote:
Dave, some do some don't, unfortunately some of the old R&S and HP do not work. I don't mind using an older OS in the shop,I do not need the newest, after all that computer never goes out to the internet it is on its own network without internet connectivity.
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John
 

Dave, some do some don't, unfortunately some of the old R&S and HP do not work. I don't mind using an older OS in the shop,I do not need the newest, after all that computer never goes out to the internet it is on its own network without internet connectivity.
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John
 

Hi John, Have you tried?running?the old apps in Compatibility mode under win10/11,?I had a similar?prob?and?worked?fine in?compatibility mode.

Dave?

On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 at 02:13, John Cunliffe W7ZQ via <w7zq=[email protected]> wrote:
Dave, there are two versions, one for WIN 10/11 and one for legacy devices like WIN7 and XP. Since most of my gear in my hobby shop needs WIN7, XP and in a few cases DOS I am maintaining the shop computer at that level. WIN10/11 just throw up trying to run those old programs.
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John
 

 

? Tested on Windows XP (Virtual Machine)
Just a quick note to confirm that the current 32-bit version of WinSpectrum III has been successfully tested on a Windows XP virtual machine (VirtualBox).
The application runs smoothly, including full USB communication with the tinySA analyzer, real-time plotting, and logging features.

If you're working in a legacy environment or testing on older systems, this version should work without issues.

? The required STMicroelectronics VCP driver (VID_0483, PID_5740) is already included in the ZIP package.
This is the same driver used for Windows 7 (32-bit), and it installs without problems on XP.
 

Dave, there are two versions, one for WIN 10/11 and one for legacy devices like WIN7 and XP. Since most of my gear in my hobby shop needs WIN7, XP and in a few cases DOS I am maintaining the shop computer at that level. WIN10/11 just throw up trying to run those old programs.
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John
 

The developers may have more qf an idea but I wouldn't expect recently developed S/W to reliably function on a OS less than Win10.

Dave
 

I played around with a win7 computer in XP mode the 32bit version and my original ultra.
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Markers do not work at all, no matter what information entered.
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The curser does not stay hidden and shows up every time there is a change, to fix it one has to uncheck the curser and? then re-check it.
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The points seem to be fixed at 460 or less? no matter if it is single sweep or continues sweep.
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I could not get the waterfall to work, activating the function just freezes everything.
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There have been a few strange disconnects during the testing that I have not yet associated with a special combination of commands.
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That said, I like the large display it is easy on my old eyes given time, this could evolve into something nice and useful.
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John
 

Well done developing WinSpectrum, easy to use. The only very minor issue I've found is when selecting the Marker tab, the Accept and Cancel options are in Spanish, tested with 64bit Win11,? WinSpectrum version 3.0.1.2??
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Keep up the good work
Cheers Dave VK3DPM
 

A 64 bits update is now available. Additionally, following your suggestion Stephen, a 32-bit version targeting .NET Framework 2.0 has been added for better compatibility with older systems. Feel free to download the one that best fits your setup.
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I am a reader, not a sender of messages, usually.

However the Windows application sounds (is sound the correct word for a written message?) very useful.

What might make it even more useful is to run it on XP (howls of laughter …..), or at least Win7.

I have a large pile of old notebooks and laptops which cannot be used, as much of the useful software will not run on such an ancient platform. I am sure that we all have “old” laptops in a cupboard somewhere.

Using this application on an otherwise redundant device also would not take up so much workbench space and be much more portable and cheaper. Heaven forbid if one eventually managed to fit the SA into a floppy disk slot (with the two sma connectors accessible).

Stephen Laurence. G7PSZ
 

WinSpectrum III v3.0.1.1 – Update & Fixes
Some users reported that nothing was displayed on the graph when using tinySA (basic). The issue was caused by WinSpectrum's default scan setting of 450 points, which the tinySA (basic) does not support (it has a 290-point limit).
Fixed in version 3.0.1.1: WinSpectrum III now detects tinySA (basic) failure when the number of points exceeds 290, adjusts the scan to 290 points, and correctly displays the graph—no user intervention required.
Additionally, this update includes several improvements and fixes:
? Added LNA on/off command.
? Start/Stop Frequencies are now displayed at the bottom of the graph.
? Fixed logfile reading issue.
? Various marker-related fixes and improvements.
? Added Delta calculation for markers.
Tested successfully on tinySA (basic) version 1.4-40, tinySA Ultra (non plus) version 1.4-156 and tinySA Ultra+ versions 1.4-196 and 1.4.197.
About the marker's 'Tolerance' field
Some users may wonder why WinSpectrum III includes a Tolerance (%) setting for peak markers when this parameter is not explicitly found in most VNAs, Spectrum Analyzers, or tinySA devices.
This feature is not mandatory and does not modify the raw measurement data. Instead, it is an optional tool that helps locate peaks within a user-defined range rather than just a single frequency point.
For example, if a peak frequency is set to 10 MHz with a 5% tolerance, WinSpectrum will search for the highest peak within the 9.5 MHz to 10.5 MHz range, rather than just at 10 MHz. This can be useful in cases where signals fluctuate slightly due to environmental factors or device tolerances.
The goal of this feature is to make peak identification more flexible and user-friendly, especially when dealing with noisy signals or spectral variations. Of course, if users prefer a fixed peak frequency search, they can simply ignore this setting.
73?
 

Had the same issue, I found if I set the marker to frequency mode then changed back to peak it worked ok.
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Dave
 

Hi Juan & Xavier,
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It seems it connect to the tinySA (basic) but it doesn't plot anything.
The tinySA Ultra (without +) worked a bit.
The FM band preset show 87.5 till 102 MHz not 108.
Waterfall and panafall doesn't work. Neither could I set a peak marker.
Peak marker menu has same spanish menu's at the bottom.
I didn't have time to check the other menu's this morning.
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Maybe it's a better idea to update the tinySA-App written by Erik based on the work of Oneofeleven with help from DiSlord and others than to make a new app from scratch.
You are very welcome to do so.
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73 André
 

Suggestions for improvement:?
Display IF and video bandwidths and attenuator settings on the screen
It is customary to have the frequency legend at the bottom of the screen.
Best regards ,Don Brant
 

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Hi Juan

There is commands available to activate carious modes

As far as I remember q p disable the various modes

Kind regards

Kurt

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Sendt: 11. marts 2025 21:17
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Emne: Re: [tinysa] WinSpectrum III spectrum analyzer application designed for Windows users working with Tiny SA Ultra+

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Regarding the preamplifier control, there is no USB command to enable or disable it remotely. It must be activated manually on the device.?

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TinySA ULTRA p and q commands.pdf
TinySA ULTRA p and q commands.pdf

 

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 01:17 PM, Juan M0WWA wrote:
Regarding the preamplifier control, there is no USB command to enable or disable it remotely. It must be activated manually on the device.?
Use the 'help' console command to get a listing of all available tinySA Ultra commands. For controlling the LNA:
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lna ? ? ?usage: lna off|on
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Herb
 

Hi,
It connect correctly to my tinySA but nothing to see in the spectrum window
Perhaps the protocol is different?

Greetings Kees

On Tue, Mar 11, 2025 at 9:13?PM Juan M0WWA via <groups=[email protected]> wrote:
Yes, WinSpectrum III should work with TinySA Ultra (non-Plus) and TinySA (non-Ultra) since all share the same VID and PID. However, this has not been tested, so functionality is not guaranteed.
73
 

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Regarding the preamplifier control, there is no USB command to enable or disable it remotely. It must be activated manually on the device.?
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73
 

Yes, WinSpectrum III should work with TinySA Ultra (non-Plus) and TinySA (non-Ultra) since all share the same VID and PID. However, this has not been tested, so functionality is not guaranteed.
73

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