TinySA ULTRA LEVEL CAL -> Signal Level incorrect

TinySA ULTRA LEVEL CAL -> Signal Level incorrect

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Masahiro Kusunoki All Messages By This Member #9476 zeenko store (aliexpress) Order date: Dec 18, 2022 I have tinysa ULTRA with HW V0.4.5.1. Apply a new firmware today tinySA4_v1.4-33-ga8bffcf.bin to my TinuSa ULTRA CONFIG -> MORE -> CLEAR CONFIG CONFIG -> LEVEL CAL -> RESET CALIBLATION & CALIBLATE 100kHz to 5.34GHz an error was displayed. >1T 30.00026MHz -60,9dBm/T Signal Level incorrect Check cable between connection connectors Touch screen to continue I have reverted to the firmware around the date of purchase. Can I install the latest firmware? tinySA4_v1.3-556-g9825888.bin is CALIBLATION and SELF TEST OK tinySA4_v1.3-563-g1da836e.bin is Signal Level incorrect Masahiro Kusunoki/JP3SRS
Erik Kaashoek All Messages By This Member #9478 Can test again with a different coax cable? -- For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/
Masahiro Kusunoki All Messages By This Member #9480 开云体育 Yes ? Calibration was performed using the RG223 cable. This cable is also used in VNA and there are no broken wires. ? Thank you in advance. ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Erik Kaashoek Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 11:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [tinysa] TinySA ULTRA LEVEL CAL -> Signal Level incorrect #ultra ? Can test again with a different coax cable? -- For more info on the tinySA go to Caliblation Cable.jpg
Erik Kaashoek All Messages By This Member #9481 So all OK now? -- For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/
Masahiro Kusunoki All Messages By This Member #9482 开云体育 Erik-san ? No, I changed to RG223 cable and performed the test. tinySA4_v1.3-556-g9825888.bin is CALIBLATION and SELF TEST OK firmware after tinySA4_v1.3-563-g1da836e.bin is Signal Level incorrect. The firmware after tinySA4_v1.4-33-ga8bffcf.bin is also Signal Level incorrect. ? Masahiro Kusunoki/JP3SRS ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Erik Kaashoek Sent: Monday, January 9, 2023 11:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [tinysa] TinySA ULTRA LEVEL CAL -> Signal Level incorrect #ultra ? So all OK now? -- For more info on the tinySA go to
Erik Kaashoek All Messages By This Member #9484 What code did you use with the clear config? Did the tinySA reboot after entering the code Did the ref level indicator turn red after the clear config -- For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/
Masahiro Kusunoki All Messages By This Member #9489 开云体育 Eric-san What code did you use with the clear config? ? 1234 Enter Did the tinySA reboot after entering the code ? Yes Did the ref level indicator turn red after the clear config ? Yes Masahiro Kusunoki/JP3SRS toggle quoted message Show quoted text 2023/01/10 1:16、Erik Kaashoek <erik@...>のメール: ?What code did you use with the clear config? Did the tinySA reboot after entering the code Did the ref level indicator turn red after the clear config -- For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/
Erik Kaashoek All Messages By This Member #9490 This is very confusing. Can you use the serial over usb command to dump the low correction table: correction low This will dump the correction table. Also give the command? leveloffset And post the respone Please post the data using the latest fw as I do not understand why one fw gives a success selftest and others do not -- For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/
Masahiro Kusunoki All Messages By This Member #9491 开云体育 Get Collection low and Leveloffset firmware tinySA4_v1.3-556-g9825888.bin tinySA Shell ch> (null)? ch> correction low index frequency value correction low 0 10000 14.2 correction low 1 40000 9.5 correction low 2 100000 7.6 correction low 3 300000 3.8 correction low 4 500000 1.5 correction low 5 900000 0.1 correction low 6 4000000 0.3 correction low 7 6000000 0.0 correction low 8 30000000 0.0 correction low 9 90000000 -0.8 correction low 10 210000000 0.7 correction low 11 300000000 0.4 correction low 12 380000000 1.4 correction low 13 510000000 1.0 correction low 14 600000000 0.8 correction low 15 690000000 0.7 correction low 16 780000000 2.6 correction low 17 810000000 5.2 correction low 18 820000000 6.9 correction low 19 830000000 9.5 ch> leveloffset leveloffset low 0.0 leveloffset low output 0.0 leveloffset switch 0.0 leveloffset receive_switch 0.0 leveloffset out_switch 0.0 leveloffset lna 0.0 leveloffset harmonic 10.5 leveloffset shift1 0.5 leveloffset shift2 3.0 leveloffset shift3 0.0 leveloffset drive1 0.0 leveloffset drive2 -1.5 leveloffset drive3 -0.5 leveloffset direct 30.0 leveloffset direct_lna 0.0 leveloffset ultra 0.0 leveloffset ultra_lna 0.0 leveloffset adf 0.0 leveloffset direct output 0.0 ch> ? Apply newest firmware tinySA_v1.4-33-ga8bffcf.bin Do CONFIG -> SELFTEST ? Display Error message on LCD screen >1T 29.999MHz -61.6dBm ? Test 12: Pass Test 13: signal level Fail Touch screen to continue ? Do CONFIG -> LEVEL CAL -> CALIBLATE 100kHz to 5.34GHz ? Display Error message on LCD screen >1T 30.00028MHz -60.7dBm/T ? Signal level incorrect Check cable between connectors Touch screen to continue ? correction low and leveloffset ? before????????????????????????????????? after tinySA4_v1.3-556-g9825888.bin?????????? firmware tinySA_v1.4-33-ga8bffcf.bin index frequency value?????????????????? index frequency value correction low 0 10000 14.2???????????? correction low 0 10000 14.2 correction low 1 40000 9.5????????????? correction low 1 40000 9.5 correction low 2 100000 7.6???????????? correction low 2 100000 7.6 correction low 3 300000 3.8???????????? correction low 3 300000 3.8 correction low 4 500000 1.5???????????? correction low 4 500000 1.5 correction low 5 900000 0.1???????????? correction low 5 900000 0.1 correction low 6 4000000 0.3??????????? correction low 6 4000000 0.3 correction low 7 6000000 0.0????????? ??correction low 7 6000000 0.0 correction low 8 30000000 0.0?????????? correction low 8 30000000 0.0 correction low 9 90000000 -0.8????????? correction low 9 90000000 -0.8 correction low 10 210000000 0.7???????? correction low 10 210000000 0.7 correction low 11 300000000 0.4???????? correction low 11 300000000 0.4 correction low 12 380000000 1.4???????? correction low 12 380000000 1.4 correction low 13 510000000 1.0???????? correction low 13 510000000 1.0 correction low 14 600000000 0.8???????? correction low 14 600000000 0.8 correction low 15 690000000 0.7???????? correction low 15 690000000 0.7 correction low 16 780000000 2.6???????? correction low 16 780000000 2.6 correction low 17 810000000 5.2???????? correction low 17 810000000 5.2 correction low 18 820000000 6.9???????? correction low 18 820000000 6.9 correction low 19 830000000 9.5???????? correction low 19 830000000 9.5 ch> leveloffset???????????????????????? ch> leveloffset leveloffset low 0.0???????????????????? leveloffset low -1.3 leveloffset low output 0.0????????????? leveloffset low output 0.0 leveloffset switch 0.0????????????????? leveloffset switch 0.0 leveloffset receive_switch 0.0????????? leveloffset receive_switch 0.0 leveloffset out_switch 0.0????????????? leveloffset out_switch 0.0 leveloffset lna 0.0???????????????????? leveloffset lna 0.0 leveloffset harmonic 10.5?????????????? leveloffset harmonic 10.5 leveloffset shift1 0.5????????????????? leveloffset shift1 -0.1 leveloffset shift2 3.0????????????????? leveloffset shift2 2.9 leveloffset shift3 0.0????????????????? leveloffset shift3 -0.0 leveloffset drive1 0.0????????????????? leveloffset drive1 0.0 leveloffset drive2 -1.5???????????????? leveloffset drive2 -1.0 leveloffset drive3 -0.5???????????????? leveloffset drive3 -0.2 leveloffset direct 30.0???????????????? leveloffset direct 30.0 leveloffset direct_lna 0.0????????????? leveloffset direct_lna 0.0 leveloffset ultra 0.0?????????????????? leveloffset ultra 0.0 leveloffset ultra_lna 0.0?????????????? leveloffset ultra_lna 0.0 leveloffset adf 0.0???????????????????? leveloffset adf 0.0 leveloffset direct output 0.0?????????? leveloffset direct output 0.0 ? There was a change in the value of leveloffset. ? Masahiro Kusunoko/JP3SRS ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Erik Kaashoek Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 5:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [tinysa] TinySA ULTRA LEVEL CAL -> Signal Level incorrect #ultra ? This is very confusing. Can you use the serial over usb command to dump the low correction table: correction low This will dump the correction table. Also give the command? leveloffset And post the respone Please post the data using the latest fw as I do not understand why one fw gives a success selftest and others do not -- For more info on the tinySA go to selftest_error.jpg caliblation_error.jpg
Erik Kaashoek All Messages By This Member #9500 The calibration did partially complete, the LNA level calibration seems to have failed. And selftest 13 fails, this is the LNA test. It seems the LNA is not working correctly The reason the older FW did not show this error is because the check of the signal level during LNA calibration was only introduced in newer FW version. You can try yo replace the LNA, this has previously been done by someone so it seems to be possible. The LNA is U14 and it is a?BGA2817, available from many suppliers for acceptable price. Or you can contact the supplier for replacement. -- For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/
Masahiro Kusunoki All Messages By This Member #9501 开云体育 Erik-san ? Thank you for taking a look at the caliblation results. I will replace the parts for U14 BGA2817 as advised. It will take some time for the parts to arrive so I will work on it next week. ? Thanks. Masahiro Kusunoki/JP3SRS ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Erik Kaashoek Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 7:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [tinysa] TinySA ULTRA LEVEL CAL -> Signal Level incorrect #ultra ? The calibration did partially complete, the LNA level calibration seems to have failed. And selftest 13 fails, this is the LNA test. It seems the LNA is not working correctly The reason the older FW did not show this error is because the check of the signal level during LNA calibration was only introduced in newer FW version. You can try yo replace the LNA, this has previously been done by someone so it seems to be possible. The LNA is U14 and it is a?BGA2817, available from many suppliers for acceptable price. Or you can contact the supplier for replacement. -- For more info on the tinySA go to U14-BGA2817.jpg
Masahiro Kusunoki All Messages By This Member #9574 开云体育 Erik-san ? The soldering on C74 appeared to be short-circuited and has been corrected. Replaced LNA on U14. Update firmware tinySA4_v1.4-40-g2f63e1c.bin Do caliblate and selftest check CLEAR CONFIG -> CALIBLATE 100kHz to 3.54GHZ PASS SELF TEST PASS ? There was also a change in the value of lna in Level offset. Before LNA Replace????????????????????? After LNA Replace ch> correction low????????????????????? ch> correction low index frequency value?????????????????? index frequency value correction low 0 10000 12.2???????????? correction low 0 10000 12.2 correction low 1 50000 7.6????????????? correction low 1 50000 7.6 correction low 2 200000 4.5???????????? correction low 2 200000 4.5 correction low 3 400000 2.2???????????? correction low 3 400000 2.2 correction low 4 900000 0.4???????????? correction low 4 900000 0.4 correction low 5 20000000 -0.4????? ????correction low 5 20000000 -0.4 correction low 6 30000000 0.0?????????? correction low 6 30000000 0.0 correction low 7 100000000 -0.8???????? correction low 7 100000000 -0.8 correction low 8 160000000 -0.4???????? correction low 8 160000000 -0.4 correction low 9 230000000 0.5????????? correction low 9 230000000 0.5 correction low 10 290000000 0.3???????? correction low 10 290000000 0.3 correction low 11 400000000 1.0???????? correction low 11 400000000 1.0 correction low 12 520000000 0.1???????? correction low 12 520000000 0.1 correction low 13 600000000 0.5???????? correction low 13 600000000 0.5 correction low 14 660000000 0.4???????? correction low 14 660000000 0.4 correction low 15 740000000 1.5???????? correction low 15 740000000 1.5 correction low 16 790000000 3.0???????? correction low 16 790000000 3.0 correction low 17 810000000 4.7???????? correction low 17 810000000 4.7 correction low 18 820000000 6.3???????? correction low 18 820000000 6.3 correction low 19 830000000 8.7???????? correction low 19 830000000 8.7 ? ch> leveloffset???????????????????????? ch> leveloffset leveloffset low 0.0???????????????????? leveloffset low -1.2 leveloffset low output 0.0??????? ??????leveloffset low output 0.0 leveloffset switch 0.0????????????????? leveloffset switch 0.0 leveloffset receive_switch 0.0????????? leveloffset receive_switch 0.1 leveloffset out_switch 0.0????????????? leveloffset out_switch 0.0 leveloffset lna 0.0?? ??????????????????leveloffset lna -0.9 leveloffset harmonic 10.5?????????????? leveloffset harmonic 10.5 leveloffset shift1 -0.1???????????????? leveloffset shift1 -0.1 leveloffset shift2 2.4????????????????? leveloffset shift2 2.4 leveloffset shift3 -0.4 ????????????????leveloffset shift3 -0.5 leveloffset drive1 0.0????????????????? leveloffset drive1 0.0 leveloffset drive2 -1.0???????????????? leveloffset drive2 -0.9 leveloffset drive3 -0.1???????????????? leveloffset drive3 -0.1 leveloffset direct 30.0? ???????????????leveloffset direct 29.4 leveloffset direct_lna 0.0????????????? leveloffset direct_lna 30.9 leveloffset ultra 0.0?????????????????? leveloffset ultra -1.6 leveloffset ultra_lna 0.0?????????????? leveloffset ultra_lna -1.0 leveloffset adf 0.0???????????????????? leveloffset adf 0.0 leveloffset direct output 0.0?????????? leveloffset direct output 0.0 ? ? The problem of passing with the old firmware and failing with the new v1.4 has been resolved with LNA replacement. I will close this issue. ? Thanks. ? Masahiro Kusunoki/JP3SRS ? toggle quoted message Show quoted text From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Masahiro Kusunoki Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 8:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [tinysa] TinySA ULTRA LEVEL CAL -> Signal Level incorrect #ultra ? Erik-san ? Thank you for taking a look at the caliblation results. I will replace the parts for U14 BGA2817 as advised. It will take some time for the parts to arrive so I will work on it next week. ? Thanks. Masahiro Kusunoki/JP3SRS ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Erik Kaashoek Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2023 7:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [tinysa] TinySA ULTRA LEVEL CAL -> Signal Level incorrect #ultra ? The calibration did partially complete, the LNA level calibration seems to have failed. And selftest 13 fails, this is the LNA test. It seems the LNA is not working correctly The reason the older FW did not show this error is because the check of the signal level during LNA calibration was only introduced in newer FW version. You can try yo replace the LNA, this has previously been done by someone so it seems to be possible. The LNA is U14 and it is a?BGA2817, available from many suppliers for acceptable price. Or you can contact the supplier for replacement. -- For more info on the tinySA go to C74.jpg U14.jpg caliblation_pass.jpg selfTest_pass.jpg
Erik Kaashoek All Messages By This Member #9583 Masahiro-san Thanks for the excellent feedback. I will send this info to manufacturing for future improvements. The non zero leveloffset values are either in the firmware of measured during calibration As the LNA calibration previously did fail the leveloffset LNA stayed zero. Now the LNA is working the calibration process updates it to the measured value. -- For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/
Sarayut Hatsanai All Messages By This Member #19293 Can you suggest me supplier for BGA2817?.
Clyde Lambert All Messages By This Member #19294 It is available in several places on the net. Just google for?BGA2817 to see if threr is any place near you. Mouser or digital for two. Clyde KC7BJE?
Clyde Lambert All Messages By This Member #19295 PS, That was Digikey not digital. Darn word correction. I hate a phone that tries to think ahead for you! Anyway Clyde KC7BJE? ?