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Today DHL delivered me a couple of tinySA.

Still no powered it up, but I want to note that the packaging was really good, thanks Maggie.

The only negative comment is about DHL. DHL is a carrier and also a customs clearance agent and they make extra money with it.

When using normal mail for receiving parcels from China usually I have not to pay anything, but DHL charged me 10€ for customs duties plus 20€ for the "service".

I forgot to say Maggie to sent it using common mail, it is cheaper for both.

I had a similar experience when I bought my first AirSpy SDR receiver, I choose FedEx or UPS (I don't remember which one) instead of common mail expecting a safer service, but when it arrived they called me asking for a ridiculous sum for clearing the customs. I refused and made the clearance myself, not before a long discussion about charging me just for giving me the shipping documents.

So when I bought another Airspy receiver I choose mail and the parcel arrived at my door without paying any extra.

This may not apply to all countries, but it is true for Spain and even worse for other countries.

Now I (and a friend) have another toy to play with.

Regards,

Ignacio EB4APL


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On the other hand if vat or duty is due according to said countries rules. We, as in the customer, ought to pay it.

We should not avoid it. It pays towards our society services after all.
Otherwise we are as corrupt as other countries despotic leaders ..........just in a smaller way. Nevertheless still corrupt!

On 18 Aug 2020, at 16:52, EB4APL <eb4apl@...> wrote:

?Today DHL delivered me a couple of tinySA.

Still no powered it up, but I want to note that the packaging was really good, thanks Maggie.

The only negative comment is about DHL. DHL is a carrier and also a customs clearance agent and they make extra money with it.

When using normal mail for receiving parcels from China usually I have not to pay anything, but DHL charged me 10€ for customs duties plus 20€ for the "service".

I forgot to say Maggie to sent it using common mail, it is cheaper for both.

I had a similar experience when I bought my first AirSpy SDR receiver, I choose FedEx or UPS (I don't remember which one) instead of common mail expecting a safer service, but when it arrived they called me asking for a ridiculous sum for clearing the customs. I refused and made the clearance myself, not before a long discussion about charging me just for giving me the shipping documents.

So when I bought another Airspy receiver I choose mail and the parcel arrived at my door without paying any extra.

This may not apply to all countries, but it is true for Spain and even worse for other countries.

Now I (and a friend) have another toy to play with.

Regards,

Ignacio EB4APL


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Hi Rachel,

Probably I didn't explained it well, I don't have any problem with paying custom duties (as I also pay all my taxes). The actual amount was 10€ and it was according to the rules. But my complain was that DHL charged me with 20€ for their customs clearing service, a service that I had not requested. Other carriers phones you informing that they have a shipment for me and it is needed to clear the customs and pay the duties, and they offers to do the service for me. Depending on the circumstances, I give them the ok or rather I perform the clearance myself. On the contrary DHL ringed my door with the shipment on hand and asking for 30.90€.

Regards,

Ignacio, EB4APL

El 19/08/2020 a las 15:53, RACHAEL SANDERS escribi¨®:
On the other hand if vat or duty is due according to said countries rules. We, as in the customer, ought to pay it.

We should not avoid it. It pays towards our society services after all.
Otherwise we are as corrupt as other countries despotic leaders ..........just in a smaller way. Nevertheless still corrupt!
On 18 Aug 2020, at 16:52, EB4APL <eb4apl@...> wrote:

?Today DHL delivered me a couple of tinySA.

Still no powered it up, but I want to note that the packaging was really good, thanks Maggie.

The only negative comment is about DHL. DHL is a carrier and also a customs clearance agent and they make extra money with it.

When using normal mail for receiving parcels from China usually I have not to pay anything, but DHL charged me 10€ for customs duties plus 20€ for the "service".

I forgot to say Maggie to sent it using common mail, it is cheaper for both.

I had a similar experience when I bought my first AirSpy SDR receiver, I choose FedEx or UPS (I don't remember which one) instead of common mail expecting a safer service, but when it arrived they called me asking for a ridiculous sum for clearing the customs. I refused and made the clearance myself, not before a long discussion about charging me just for giving me the shipping documents.

So when I bought another Airspy receiver I choose mail and the parcel arrived at my door without paying any extra.

This may not apply to all countries, but it is true for Spain and even worse for other countries.

Now I (and a friend) have another toy to play with.

Regards,

Ignacio EB4APL

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El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr¨®nico en busca de virus.


 

Hi all still waiting for my SA but hopefully it will ship soon. Can't wait really as got stuck in UK at the moment so set up lab here but no equipment to speak of so scratching about with what I have.

had another problem with DHL in Spain they get the order then say as you live outside a major town the they ask for a ridiculous amount extra to deliver.! Thier definition for this is very vauge and they even class a DHL office as outside the delivery address! I will not use them in Spain. In the UK they are fine.?


Regards Barry

On Tue, 18 Aug 2020, 16:52 EB4APL, <eb4apl@...> wrote:
Today DHL delivered me a couple of tinySA.

Still no powered it up, but I want to note that the packaging was really
good, thanks Maggie.

The only negative comment is about DHL. DHL is a carrier and also a
customs clearance agent and they make extra money with it.

When using normal mail for receiving parcels from China usually I have
not to pay anything, but DHL charged me 10€ for customs duties plus 20€
for the "service".

I forgot to say Maggie to sent it using common mail, it is cheaper for
both.

I had a similar experience when I bought my first AirSpy SDR receiver, I
choose FedEx or UPS (I don't remember which one) instead of common mail
expecting a safer service, but when it arrived they called me asking for
a ridiculous sum for clearing the customs. I refused and made the
clearance myself, not before a long discussion about charging me just
for giving me the shipping documents.

So when I bought another Airspy receiver I choose mail and the parcel
arrived at my door without paying any extra.

This may not apply to all countries, but it is true for Spain and even
worse for other countries.

Now I (and a friend) have another toy to play with.

Regards,

Ignacio EB4APL


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El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr¨®nico en busca de virus.






 

Hi Ignacio
Sorry to tune in on this matter. I think the tax and Custom system are not much different than her in Denmark. DHL is forced to do this sort of VAT and custom duties, and cannot leave it to do this clearence yourself except you are a company and registered for importing such kind of stuff. As a private person DHL has to honor the national rules about VAT and tax duties collection. It would be the same sort of charges if delivered thru the national post service so my point of view is that your protest is not justified. DHL is just doing what they are forced to do.
In my country any far east purchase with a declared value inclusive shipping cost below 13 US$, is not subject to VAT and TAX duties and I have received several DHL shipments for no extra cost solely pending the decaled value.
Many Ebay sellers cheat and declare fake declared value and those is also passing the National post service straight away
Kind regards
Kurt

-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: [email protected] <[email protected]> P? vegne af EB4APL
Sendt: 22. august 2020 01:41
Til: [email protected]
Emne: Re: [tinysa] They arrived too!

Hi Rachel,

Probably I didn't explained it well, I don't have any problem with paying custom duties (as I also pay all my taxes). The actual amount was 10€ and it was according to the rules. But my complain was that DHL charged me with 20€ for their customs clearing service, a service that I had not requested. Other carriers phones you informing that they have a shipment for me and it is needed to clear the customs and pay the duties, and they offers to do the service for me. Depending on the circumstances, I give them the ok or rather I perform the clearance myself. On the contrary DHL ringed my door with the shipment on hand and asking for 30.90€.

Regards,

Ignacio, EB4APL

El 19/08/2020 a las 15:53, RACHAEL SANDERS escribi¨®:
On the other hand if vat or duty is due according to said countries rules. We, as in the customer, ought to pay it.

We should not avoid it. It pays towards our society services after all.
Otherwise we are as corrupt as other countries despotic leaders ..........just in a smaller way. Nevertheless still corrupt!
On 18 Aug 2020, at 16:52, EB4APL <eb4apl@...> wrote:

?Today DHL delivered me a couple of tinySA.

Still no powered it up, but I want to note that the packaging was really good, thanks Maggie.

The only negative comment is about DHL. DHL is a carrier and also a customs clearance agent and they make extra money with it.

When using normal mail for receiving parcels from China usually I have not to pay anything, but DHL charged me 10€ for customs duties plus 20€ for the "service".

I forgot to say Maggie to sent it using common mail, it is cheaper for both.

I had a similar experience when I bought my first AirSpy SDR receiver, I choose FedEx or UPS (I don't remember which one) instead of common mail expecting a safer service, but when it arrived they called me asking for a ridiculous sum for clearing the customs. I refused and made the clearance myself, not before a long discussion about charging me just for giving me the shipping documents.

So when I bought another Airspy receiver I choose mail and the parcel arrived at my door without paying any extra.

This may not apply to all countries, but it is true for Spain and even worse for other countries.

Now I (and a friend) have another toy to play with.

Regards,

Ignacio EB4APL

--
El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electr¨®nico en busca de virus.


 

El 24/08/2020 a las 10:46, Kurt Poulsen escribi¨®:
Hi Ignacio
Sorry to tune in on this matter. I think the tax and Custom system are not much different than her in Denmark. DHL is forced to do this sort of VAT and custom duties, and cannot leave it to do this clearence yourself except you are a company and registered for importing such kind of stuff. As a private person DHL has to honor the national rules about VAT and tax duties collection. It would be the same sort of charges if delivered thru the national post service so my point of view is that your protest is not justified. DHL is just doing what they are forced to do.
I'm not protesting about the VAT and duties charges, I always pay these. Probably in Denmark you, as a private person, cannot personally make the clearance but here in Spain any individual can do the clearance for items sent for him, I have done it much times. This is very easy: you go to the customs office at the destination airport, gives to the customs officer the shipping documents (got them from DHL, the National Post or the subject carrier, they are located very close to the customs office for obvious reasons) and a copy of the invoice, you get a payment document, pay it at a near bank office and go to to the customs officer and you get the package.

My protest is about DHL proceeding to the clearance (and charging me their fees) without asking me before.

In my country any far east purchase with a declared value inclusive shipping cost below 13 US$, is not subject to VAT and TAX duties and I have received several DHL shipments for no extra cost solely pending the decaled value.
Many Ebay sellers cheat and declare fake declared value and those is also passing the National post service straight away
Kind regards
Kurt
This will be my final post on the subject, it is becoming more and more OT.

Regards,

Ignacio



-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: [email protected] <[email protected]> P? vegne af EB4APL
Sendt: 22. august 2020 01:41
Til: [email protected]
Emne: Re: [tinysa] They arrived too!

Hi Rachel,

Probably I didn't explained it well, I don't have any problem with paying custom duties (as I also pay all my taxes). The actual amount was 10€ and it was according to the rules. But my complain was that DHL charged me with 20€ for their customs clearing service, a service that I had not requested. Other carriers phones you informing that they have a shipment for me and it is needed to clear the customs and pay the duties, and they offers to do the service for me. Depending on the circumstances, I give them the ok or rather I perform the clearance myself. On the contrary DHL ringed my door with the shipment on hand and asking for 30.90€.

Regards,

Ignacio, EB4APL



El 19/08/2020 a las 15:53, RACHAEL SANDERS escribi¨®:
On the other hand if vat or duty is due according to said countries rules. We, as in the customer, ought to pay it.

We should not avoid it. It pays towards our society services after all.
Otherwise we are as corrupt as other countries despotic leaders ..........just in a smaller way. Nevertheless still corrupt!
On 18 Aug 2020, at 16:52, EB4APL <eb4apl@...> wrote:

?Today DHL delivered me a couple of tinySA.

Still no powered it up, but I want to note that the packaging was really good, thanks Maggie.

The only negative comment is about DHL. DHL is a carrier and also a customs clearance agent and they make extra money with it.

When using normal mail for receiving parcels from China usually I have not to pay anything, but DHL charged me 10€ for customs duties plus 20€ for the "service".

I forgot to say Maggie to sent it using common mail, it is cheaper for both.

I had a similar experience when I bought my first AirSpy SDR receiver, I choose FedEx or UPS (I don't remember which one) instead of common mail expecting a safer service, but when it arrived they called me asking for a ridiculous sum for clearing the customs. I refused and made the clearance myself, not before a long discussion about charging me just for giving me the shipping documents.

So when I bought another Airspy receiver I choose mail and the parcel arrived at my door without paying any extra.

This may not apply to all countries, but it is true for Spain and even worse for other countries.

Now I (and a friend) have another toy to play with.

Regards,

Ignacio EB4APL

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