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Thank you! And a couple of questions on PC connectivity and upgrade

 

First, I would like to say, as a professional embedded software and electronics engineer that I think the TinySA is a wonderful achievement. I am impressed and you should be very proud of the work you have put in this product, so "Thank you"!

I have a couple of questions:
1) I downloaded TinySA.exe to use on Windows 10 64-bit. My device shows up as a COM port but when I run TinySA.exe, there is a brief pause (0.5-1s) and then nothing at all happens. I restarted the computer, turned off anti-virus etc. TinySA is in a folder on my computer (not in Program Files etc. as I am under the impression that this is OK). I assume I have missed something.... any pointers gratefully received.

2) I have upgraded the firmware for the first time using dfuse and file tinySA_v1.0-85-ge82e61d.dfu. The software uploaded and verified then I closd dufse and rebooted with the power switch.
The TinySA is working but the front panel shows version 1.0-84 not 1.0-85. Is that just accidentally not updated in the software or is the upgrade not applied? (Sorry, I forgot to look at the number before I did the upgrade!)

In case anybody is wondering, TinySA.exe didn't do anything with either the software that was in when it shipped nor after the upgrade.
 

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 01:39 AM, Magicbean wrote:
1) I downloaded TinySA.exe to use on Windows 10 64-bit. My device shows up as a COM port but when I run TinySA.exe, there is a brief pause (0.5-1s) and then nothing at all happens. I restarted the computer, turned off anti-virus etc. TinySA is in a folder on my computer (not in Program Files etc. as I am under the impression that this is OK). I assume I have missed something.... any pointers gratefully received.
It may take some seconds (5 seconds per comm port on your computer)? before the port selection box appears

2) I have upgraded the firmware for the first time using dfuse and file tinySA_v1.0-85-ge82e61d.dfu. The software uploaded and verified then I closd dufse and rebooted with the power switch.
The TinySA is working but the front panel shows version 1.0-84 not 1.0-85. Is that just accidentally not updated in the software or is the upgrade not applied? (Sorry, I forgot to look at the number before I did the upgrade!)
I have forgotten (again) to clear the project before building and this messes up the version number displayed. V1.0-85 display V1.0-84. Need to improve my build environment.
 

Thanks for clarifying the build number. It happens to me too!


On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 10:43 AM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
It may take some seconds (5 seconds per comm port on your computer)? before the port selection box appears
I don't think it's that, I have left it for over 15 minutes and nothing happens.

By the way, I don't mean the port selection box isn't populated. I mean nothing happens at all. No program opens, no interface appears or anything. Just a brief 'windows busy' icon for 1/2 a second and then that's all.
Should I be doing anything more than downloading TinySA.exe and running it to make something happen? I.e. does it need to be in a particular folder or have any other files present??
 

Have you tried accessing the SA via a terminal, like TeraTerm? Does it work?

On Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 12:40:42 p.m. EDT, Magicbean <smstone@...> wrote:


Thanks for clarifying the build number. It happens to me too!


On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 10:43 AM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
It may take some seconds (5 seconds per comm port on your computer)? before the port selection box appears
I don't think it's that, I have left it for over 15 minutes and nothing happens.

By the way, I don't mean the port selection box isn't populated. I mean nothing happens at all. No program opens, no interface appears or anything. Just a brief 'windows busy' icon for 1/2 a second and then that's all.
Should I be doing anything more than downloading TinySA.exe and running it to make something happen? I.e. does it need to be in a particular folder or have any other files present??

 

I have just found it works fine on my other Windows 10 PC. Same TinySA, same TinySA.exe. Odd.
 

Try going into the Device Manager window and under View, select "show hidden devices"

Then, have a look for any old STM USB or DFU devices and delete them.

Now, connect the SA and let Windows detect and re-install the drivers.


On Tuesday, September 15, 2020, 1:04:06 p.m. EDT, Magicbean <smstone@...> wrote:


I have just found it works fine on my other Windows 10 PC. Same TinySA, same TinySA.exe. Odd.

 

Ah,

Unplug the tinySA, wait for the beep, plug in again, wait for the beep and try again.

tinySA.exe may hang in a hidden state waiting in deadlock
 

Erik:

On the TinySA flash page, when it boots, it says in bold letters ¡°tinySA v0.3¡±

I assume this is the version of the boot loader?

--
73, Bernie, VE3FWF
(most typos in this message were generated by highly sophisticated auto-correction software)
 

On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 06:02 PM, Ham Radio wrote:

Erik:

On the TinySA flash page, when it boots, it says in bold letters ¡°tinySA v0.3¡±

I assume this is the version of the boot loader?

Bernie,
? v0.3 is the production hardware revision.? The beta hardware revision was v0.2.

?- Herb
 

Thanks Herb. ?A bit confusing for the first time user.

I just learned that you can use a serial terminal to connect with TinySA. ?Not sure if you need to be in regular mode ?or ?DFU mode to do that function and what speed to set the COMM port. ?

The PC Control description on TinySA.org needs to be expanded a bit more to describe the serial communication feature and perhaps, ?a link to the list of shell commands.
--
73, Bernie, VE3FWF
(most typos in this message were generated by highly sophisticated auto-correction software)
 

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 06:36 AM, Ham Radio wrote:

Thanks Herb. ?A bit confusing for the first time user.

I just learned that you can use a serial terminal to connect with TinySA. ?Not sure if you need to be in regular mode ?or ?DFU mode to do that function and what speed to set the COMM port. ?

The PC Control description on TinySA.org needs to be expanded a bit more to describe the serial communication feature and perhaps, ?a link to the list of shell commands.

Bernie,
? A lot of tinySA users have prior familiarity with the NanoVNA which uses the same DFU upgrade procedure.? The DFU mode can only be used for upgrading.? To use the tinySA from a serial terminal you have to exit from the DFU mode and return to normal USB mode.? USB always transfers at the fastest speed rated for the selected port so speed settings in the serial terminal are not applicable.

?To get a list of the available shell commands just type 'help' from the serial terminal.

- Herb
 

Thanks for the info, Herb.

Will try the serial interface. ?


Link of tinySA.org. ?


I would fix it myself if I had the PMWiki password. :-)



--
73, Bernie, VE3FWF
(most typos in this message were generated by highly sophisticated auto-correction software)
 

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 02:17 PM, Ham Radio wrote:
I would fix it myself if I had the PMWiki password. :-)
Just send the content to me and I will add it.
Don't bother about formatting

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