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Would like to report a new fake chinese hardware for TinySA


 

I don't like FAKE hardware clones.? The original developers/artists/etc deserve that (as one myself).
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Is this the right place to report a new clone I found?
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Thanks.


 

On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 11:13 PM, <knaggsy2000+groupsio@...> wrote:
Is this the right place to report a new clone I found?
No.
Please do not share any information on clones here.
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Designer of the tinySA
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Erik,
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Thanks for replying, wasn't expecting the designer to reply.
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So you don't want reports of new clones of your hardware?? Am I getting that right?
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If so, that's fine and will leave it at that.? Just thought I was helping out.
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Regards.


 

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>>> Gentlemen:

>>> Please. Brain use.

>>> Discussion of clone identification details would simply brief the bad guys on how to avoid detection. That's not rocket science. Please apply brain to issue and conform to the wishes of the developers who have done such a spectacular job.

>>> John,

>>> at radio station VE7AOV.

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On 2025-03-28 15:17, knaggsy2000+groupsio via groups.io wrote:
Erik,
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Thanks for replying, wasn't expecting the designer to reply.
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So you don't want reports of new clones of your hardware?? Am I getting that right?
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If so, that's fine and will leave it at that.? Just thought I was helping out.
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Regards.
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Hi,

""So you don't want reports of new clones of your hardware?? Am I getting that right?""

yup ....?
there's pretty much nothing that can e done about the clone sites anyway


""If so, that's fine and will leave it at that.? Just thought I was helping out.""

The best "help" is to post the info on where the genuine products are available from
that way it aims people to the good stuff rather than the garbage :)?
eg ....

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lists all the safe places to buy?

cheers
Dave



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Erik,
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Thanks for replying, wasn't expecting the designer to reply.
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So you don't want reports of new clones of your hardware?? Am I getting that right?
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If so, that's fine and will leave it at that.? Just thought I was helping out.
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Regards.

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I think the OP was thinking of a list of where clones were on sale, rather than details of the differences.
Better to stick to the list of where to buy real ones though!

Jeff

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Subject: Re: [tinysa] Would like to report a new fake chinese hardware for TinySA

Hi,""So you don't want reports of new clones of your hardware?? Am I getting that right?""yup ....?there's pretty much nothing that can e done about the clone sites anyway""If so, that's fine and will leave it at that.? Just thought I was helping out.""The best "help" is to post the info on where the genuine products are available fromthat way it aims people to the good stuff rather than the garbage :)?eg ....tinySA | Main / Buying the tinySA? ??lists all the safe places to buy?cheersDave----- Original Message -----From:tinysa@...:<[email protected]>Cc:Sent:Fri, 28 Mar 2025 15:17:46 -0700Subject:Re: [tinysa] Would like to report a new fake chinese hardware for TinySAErik,??Thanks for replying, wasn't expecting the designer to reply.?So you don't want reports of new clones of your hardware?? Am I getting that right???If so, that's fine and will leave it at that.? Just thought I was helping out.??Regards.Email sent using Optus Webmail


 

But it was found on Amazon.? As the TinySA guys hold trademarks/copyright - that should give them more rights to get those took down.
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That's why I wanted to report it.


 

Hello fellow amateur radio user!
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All I wanted to do was to report a new fake clone which wasn't mentioned anywhere on the site.
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Simple as that.
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Regards.


 

John,
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I am willing to discuss the details of the clone "in-private", but Erik didn't seem interested in my attempt to report another fake clone.
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Regards.


 

On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 04:33 PM, Danny wrote:
But it was found on Amazon.? As the TinySA guys hold trademarks/copyright - that should give them more rights to get those took down.
Danny
There are so many sellers of clones on all platforms. Amazon, Ebay, AliExpress,...
That is why we don't list sellers of clones anymore. Only the safe places to buy.
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Designer of the tinySA
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But it was found on Amazon.?
but almost certainly a 3rd party seller and not Amazon itself??

Jeff


 

On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 11:35 PM, Danny wrote:
Hello fellow amateur radio user!
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All I wanted to do was to report a new fake clone which wasn't mentioned anywhere on the site.
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Simple as that.
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Regards.
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The rule regarding clones is very very simple. *Only* ever buy from sellers on the ?specific recommended sellers list…….
All other sources are very likely to be illegal fake clones. The marketplace is awash with them. There’s a couple of approved sellers on Amazon, but loads of Amazon sellers are not approved. Please don’t assume that the Amazon marketplace is somehow better than EBay, Aliexpress etc etc. When you buy on Amazon, you are generally not actually buying *from* Amazon, just via the Amazon marketplace system. Peter


 

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Prawlin...You would just be playing whack-a-mole.

It's like trying to blacklist spam IP addresses or telephone numbers. More just pop up.

It is a pointless exercise.

Listing the authorized sources is the only reasonable way to direct folks to a reliable source.

My 2 cents...


On 3/30/2025 2:10 AM, Prawlin via groups.io wrote:

On Sat, Mar 29, 2025 at 11:35 PM, Danny wrote:
Hello fellow amateur radio user!
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All I wanted to do was to report a new fake clone which wasn't mentioned anywhere on the site.
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Simple as that.
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Regards.
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The rule regarding clones is very very simple. *Only* ever buy from sellers on the ?specific recommended sellers list…….
All other sources are very likely to be illegal fake clones. The marketplace is awash with them. There’s a couple of approved sellers on Amazon, but loads of Amazon sellers are not approved. Please don’t assume that the Amazon marketplace is somehow better than EBay, Aliexpress etc etc. When you buy on Amazon, you are generally not actually buying *from* Amazon, just via the Amazon marketplace system. Peter


 

Absolutely agree. It wasn’t me advocating reporting the clones, far from it. ?It was Danny. ?Peter. ?


 

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Peter...Sorry for the misdirection of my comment.

I was on my first cup of coffee. I'm using that as an excuse.

On 3/30/2025 9:24 AM, Prawlin via groups.io wrote:

Absolutely agree. It wasn’t me advocating reporting the clones, far from it. ?It was Danny. ?Peter. ?


 

No I wasn't, Prawlin - FAR from it.? Watch out for another reply to this listing with my findings.


 

I didn't see any authorised sellers on Amazon.
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BUT!? Wait for my post shortly which will hopefully elaborate on things.


 

Perhaps.? As mentioned on other replies - watch this space.


 

Erik (and others I've told to watch out for),
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Let me explain my situation more - as it seems that I need to talk about this...
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I was looking for a RF spectrum analyzer on Amazon and I found one which seemed to be reasonably priced, so I bought it (as anyone else would).
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But when I received the item and read the manual - I started to get red flags.? Not going to mention those here, in public (Erik - if you want to know the details please DM me).
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That was when I realised it was a fake clone of REAL hardware and software - so I researched it and the TinySA project came up.? I was NOT aware of this project before, if I knew earlier - would have purchased from an "official" source.
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Hence, why I wanted to report this clone.? I JUST wanted to help.? And NOW, I can see why you ONLY give official sellers.? But at the start, I didn't know.
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Hope this helps.


 

Danny
Your willingness is help is much appreciated.
Hope you anyway will enjoy using the tinySA
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Designer of the tinySA
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