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Re: TinySA Ultra+ ZS406 Self test Test 8: Passband failed ? #bug_report #ultra

 

The criteria are set a bit too strict.
Will update the FW in the near future to solve this minor problem
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Re: TinySA Ultra+ ZS406 Self test Test 8: Passband failed ? #bug_report #ultra

 

Hi Hasan,

that is exactly the same selftest behaviour than with me! I have sent my Tinysa back to vendor, but I wonder it might be a systematic error. Perhaps the tolerances of test#8 are a bit tight?

And Eric,

what could be the consequences of a spurious fail of test#8? What does this test really messure?

Hartmut

Von meinem iPhone gesendet
Re: Spur at 4.275 GHz on ZS-407

 

I can confirm that the latest firmware has fixed the spurs as reported on my ZS-407.
after installing the latest firmware did a self test - all ok, but
I notice that the reference level (top left) and the minimum level (bottom left) is red
Performed a LEVEL CAL now all?back to normal.?

Thank you Erik.

Dave?

Virus-free.


On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 at 17:15, VK3DPM Dave via <davepm=[email protected]> wrote:
I have a similar prob?although not quite as bad, the rear of my 407 is the same as Andrew's except the serial # as expected. Mine also appears to be a little later as the serial # is greater. I've duplicated?the first 4 images for comparison.

Dave

On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 at 02:36, Erik Kaashoek via <erik=[email protected]> wrote:
OK, let me try to improve the situation at 4.3 GHz
Just to be sure, there is nothing wrong with the HW.
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Re: TinySA Ultra+ ZS406 Self test Test 8: Passband failed ? #bug_report #ultra

 

Thanks Bob,
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seems there will be no other choice than to get it exchanged. But i still wonder how "severe" it is if not passed !
Re: TinySA Ultra+ ZS406 Self test Test 8: Passband failed ? #bug_report #ultra

 

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Hasan,

This sounds a lot like the problem that was reported and resolved just yesterday in this thread:

?? /g/tinysa/message/19737

Bob W6CP


On 3/28/25 14:39, hasan.mutluch via groups.io wrote:

Hi guys, I got the? TinySA Ultra+ ZS406 today from Eleshop. I updated the firmware to tinySA4_v1.4-198-g996a67b.bin (Picture 1).

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Before that, I had a Firmware from January 2025.

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I did the Self test two times, which failed on Test 8 Passband failed (Picture 2 and 3).

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Then I did the Level CAL" 100kHz to 5,42GHz" and then I tried the Self test again same problem with Test 8 Passband failed.

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Then I Reset Calibration and did and did the Level CAL "100kHz to 5,42GHz" again.

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And then the Self test again and now all Test passed two times again. ( picture 4 )

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And the third time it failed again Test 8: Passband failed again, everything else passed ( picture 5 )

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And the fourth and fifth time Self test all passed again.

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Then i did the Level CAL "100kHz to 5,42GHz" again and Self Test again Test 8: Passband failed again ( Picture 6 )

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The next two Self test all Test passed again.

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The third Self test on Test 8 Passband failed again ( Picture 7 )

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Should I return it to Eleshop and get a new one ? Are the Values of of Test 8 off by so much or just minimally off ?
Re: Would like to report a new fake chinese hardware for TinySA

 


Hi,

""So you don't want reports of new clones of your hardware?? Am I getting that right?""

yup ....?
there's pretty much nothing that can e done about the clone sites anyway


""If so, that's fine and will leave it at that.? Just thought I was helping out.""

The best "help" is to post the info on where the genuine products are available from
that way it aims people to the good stuff rather than the garbage :)?
eg ....

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lists all the safe places to buy?

cheers
Dave



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Re: [tinysa] Would like to report a new fake chinese hardware for TinySA


Erik,
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Thanks for replying, wasn't expecting the designer to reply.
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So you don't want reports of new clones of your hardware?? Am I getting that right?
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If so, that's fine and will leave it at that.? Just thought I was helping out.
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Regards.
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Re: Would like to report a new fake chinese hardware for TinySA

 

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>>> Gentlemen:

>>> Please. Brain use.

>>> Discussion of clone identification details would simply brief the bad guys on how to avoid detection. That's not rocket science. Please apply brain to issue and conform to the wishes of the developers who have done such a spectacular job.

>>> John,

>>> at radio station VE7AOV.

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On 2025-03-28 15:17, knaggsy2000+groupsio via groups.io wrote:
Erik,
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Thanks for replying, wasn't expecting the designer to reply.
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So you don't want reports of new clones of your hardware?? Am I getting that right?
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If so, that's fine and will leave it at that.? Just thought I was helping out.
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Regards.
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Re: Would like to report a new fake chinese hardware for TinySA

 

Erik,
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Thanks for replying, wasn't expecting the designer to reply.
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So you don't want reports of new clones of your hardware?? Am I getting that right?
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If so, that's fine and will leave it at that.? Just thought I was helping out.
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Regards.
TinySA Ultra+ ZS406 Self test Test 8: Passband failed ? #bug_report #ultra

 

Hi guys, I got the? TinySA Ultra+ ZS406 today from Eleshop. I updated the firmware to tinySA4_v1.4-198-g996a67b.bin (Picture 1).

?

Before that, I had a Firmware from January 2025.

?

I did the Self test two times, which failed on Test 8 Passband failed (Picture 2 and 3).

?

Then I did the Level CAL" 100kHz to 5,42GHz" and then I tried the Self test again same problem with Test 8 Passband failed.

?

Then I Reset Calibration and did and did the Level CAL "100kHz to 5,42GHz" again.

?

And then the Self test again and now all Test passed two times again. ( picture 4 )

?

?

And the third time it failed again Test 8: Passband failed again, everything else passed ( picture 5 )

?

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And the fourth and fifth time Self test all passed again.

?

Then i did the Level CAL "100kHz to 5,42GHz" again and Self Test again Test 8: Passband failed again ( Picture 6 )

?

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The next two Self test all Test passed again.

?

The third Self test on Test 8 Passband failed again ( Picture 7 )

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Should I return it to Eleshop and get a new one ? Are the Values of of Test 8 off by so much or just minimally off ?
Re: Would like to report a new fake chinese hardware for TinySA

 

On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 11:13 PM, <knaggsy2000+groupsio@...> wrote:
Is this the right place to report a new clone I found?
No.
Please do not share any information on clones here.
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Would like to report a new fake chinese hardware for TinySA

 

I don't like FAKE hardware clones.? The original developers/artists/etc deserve that (as one myself).
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Is this the right place to report a new clone I found?
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Thanks.
Re: Selftest fail #bug_report

 

On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 09:40 AM, Hartmut wrote:
Sometimes there are 4 or 5 good runs , but the next fails. Sometimes there a 3 or 4 bad runs that fail in sequence.?
Erik,
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Maybe you want to lower the tolerance for this self test item.
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Roger
Re: Selftest fail #bug_report

 

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Hugen,

your comment is interesting for me, because the test fail #8 did not occur in every test run. Sometimes there are 4 or 5 good runs , but the next fails. Sometimes there a 3 or 4 bad runs that fail in sequence.? Therefore I ran several level calibrations, but they did not fix it.?


I will return it to vendor!

Hartmut?


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 27.03.2025 um 15:48 schrieb Hugen via groups.io <hugen@...>:

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Sorry, it really isn't a clone. This is due to a deviation in the IF filter, and although we have rechecked it several times during the production process, there are still some with smaller deviations that passed the test during production, but could not pass the test in subsequent tests. You can try contacting your supplier for a replacement.
Re: Selftest fail #bug_report

 

Sorry, it really isn't a clone. This is due to a deviation in the IF filter, and although we have rechecked it several times during the production process, there are still some with smaller deviations that passed the test during production, but could not pass the test in subsequent tests. You can try contacting your supplier for a replacement.
Re: Selftest fail #bug_report

 

You did not buy from an authorized vendor so you might have received a clone.
Re: Selftest fail #bug_report

 

This does not look good and can not be repaired by different FW or other user action
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Selftest fail #bug_report

 

My TinySa Ultra+, just bought on Amazon from
Pinsaitec, fails on selftest #8. I have implemented newest firmware, have done several calibration runs! No efford! What can I do, before returning the device to vendor??
Best regards, Hartmut
Re: TinySA ultra - configure error

 

If doing a restart while pushing the jog button to the side does not help its a HW fault
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Re: TinySA ultra - configure error

 

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My TinySA ultra device is giving me a "SI4468 Configure Fail" error and is not coming up.?
Any advice on how to recover ?

Thanks
Sridhar
New FW release: Possible reduction of 4 GHz spurs visible on some ZS-407

 

New FW release
Version V1.4198
All Ultra versions
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Changes:
- Possible reduction of spurs around? 4.278 GHz visible on some ZS-407 HW
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