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Re: Tiny SA shipped

 

Hmmm... ?I ordered within an hour or so of when R&L posted the Ultra on their web site. ?Got charged immediately, too.

No ship notice for me, either.

Probably something I did in a previous life. ?Who knows?


Re: Tiny SA shipped

 

So did Zeenko.


Re: Restore presets after firmware update? #feature_request

 

Hmmmm. 30+ years ago, when packet was big, I used a very similar approach to saving a TNC configuration, and then restoring it later. Thanks for the reminder!

73,

Alan
WA4SCA


Re: Will the TinySA Ultra allow me to examine SSB modulation? #specifications

 

This is 500Hz AM modulation depth 100%?



And this is 1% depth AM modulation to simulate the ability to see a -45dBc suppressed carrier at 500Hz distance



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Will the TinySA Ultra allow me to examine SSB modulation? #specifications

 

Hi guys,

I'm planning a purchase of the new Tiny SA Ultra and I'm looking at features that are important to me.? As a radio ham, transceiver builder and a proud owner of the original TinySA, I can say that one feature I would have liked in the TinySA is the ability to examine my SSB modulation (see this thread /g/tinysa/topic/74067552#143).? So, I'm encouraged by what I see in the specifications of the new Ultra, with its narrower RBW of 300Hz.

My question then is to anyone who has performed these kinds of measurements.? What are your impressions? Does it meet your expectations and are there any caveats to be aware of?

Kind Regards. D.


Re: Tiny SA shipped

 

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That's funny, eleshop.nl also had send me a shipping notification yesterday.

Seems both shops got the units same time. :-)

Isidro DB1SBI

Am 29.11.2022 um 23:31 schrieb Steve Smith:

R & L electronics sent an email that they shipped my TinySA Ultra today.
Guess they may Have them in stock now.


R&L shipment notice

 

I got a shipment notice today from R&L for my tinySA Ultra. UPS expects it to arrive on Thursday.?


Re: Cal Function on the ULTRA

 

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Hi Larry,

Yeah, I'm a visual guy, that's the reason for wanting the 'road-map' to the ultra. I'm working on one and it'll take some time as I will be modifying it from time to time to get it right.

Also, thanks for the various notes regarding the ultra. The test 3 failure was a real bone head one, duh, hook up the cable FIRST, go figure.

I am working on that pre-amp one of the guys suggested using the MMBT5089, wow, is that thing small, first I'm going to buy one of those microscope do-dads to even see the leads.

Being retired ain't for sissy's, it's hard work.

Later,

Mike C. Sand Mtn GA


On 11/28/2022 12:36 PM, Larry McElhiney via groups.io wrote:

Hi Mike,

Some folks use these visual trees, that is true.

However, the link posted IS for the TinySA Ultra (called TinySA 4) during development. ?See, for example ¡°LNA¡± and ¡°Ultra¡± headings.

Take care,

Larry
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Re: Tiny SA shipped

 

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I talked (email) with someone at R & L last Friday. They said a shipment was coming in this week, but that it was sold out. I think he said the next shipment in was due in like 3 weeks (from last Friday? I don't know!)

He thought my order would be fulfilled this week, but I haven't gotten a ship notice so we'll see. :-)

Paul

On 11/29/22 16:21, Barry wrote:


Barry Brown
Mountain Telecom
802-366-3060
On Nov 29, 2022 7:07 PM, Don--AE4DW <AE4DW.Don@...> wrote:

Yep, got that same ship notice, a nice afternoon surprise.

They're already/still showing them out of stock, so hard to say if thats simply, they just haven't updated the online store, or they're still trying to get all backorders filled, and can't even yet do that.


Re: Tiny SA shipped

 

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Mountain Telecom
802-366-3060
On Nov 29, 2022 7:07 PM, Don--AE4DW <AE4DW.Don@...> wrote:

Yep, got that same ship notice, a nice afternoon surprise.

They're already/still showing them out of stock, so hard to say if thats simply, they just haven't updated the online store, or they're still trying to get all backorders filled, and can't even yet do that.


Re: Tiny SA shipped

Don--AE4DW
 

Yep, got that same ship notice, a nice afternoon surprise.

They're already/still showing them out of stock, so hard to say if thats simply, they just haven't updated the online store, or they're still trying to get all backorders filled, and can't even yet do that.


Tiny SA shipped

 

R & L electronics sent an email that they shipped my TinySA Ultra today.
Guess they may Have them in stock now.


Re: Restore presets after firmware update? #feature_request

 

Another method would be to have a text file with the necessary commands to create and save the PRESETS in TinySA. Just copy it and enter it through the console or the app after the update.?
For instance, the attached file is the one I use to load the presets to monitor the TV channels in my house, also with markers:
- As startup (preset #0) we see all the band occupied.
- In preset #1 there is an analog channel.
- In presets #2, #3 and #4 there are several digital DTT channels.?

I hope it will be useful
Toni
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Re: Restore presets after firmware update? #feature_request

 

Martin,

Thanks for the clear, complete instructions on how to do this. Very much appreciated.

73,

Alan
WA4SCA


Re: TinySA as Tracking Generator

 

Thanks David, I'll check that software out.

73, Fleet KC1QHE

On 11/29/2022 3:48 AM, David J Taylor via groups.io wrote:
On 28/11/2022 23:28, Fleet Senseman wrote:
Do I have the tools to do so with these two spectrum analyzers?

73, Fleet
Fleet,

One program you might like to know about is Satsagen:

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As you gather more hardware, you may find its tracking generator/spectrum analyser capabilities quite handy.

Alberto /might/ be interested in adding some tinySA support, but I don't know whether he has the hardware or how busy he is!

Cheers,
David


Re: TinySA as Tracking Generator

 

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Thank you.? I do have a NanoVNA and I'm at the point where I can get my antenna dialed in easily.? That much I know.? I also know the NanoVNA is much more capable than just that.? I'll investigate further.?

73, Fleet KC1QHE


On 11/29/2022 2:54 AM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 10:36 PM, Fleet Senseman wrote:
Can I use the TinySA as a tracking generator for the RF Explorer?
Yes and no.
If you can put the RF explorer in max hold mode, you can let both devices independently sweep the target range and hope that after some time you have been able to catch all frequencies but this can take considerable time.
It is not possible to sweep in a synchronized way.
You could create a PC application that control the sweeping of both devices.

May I suggest you look into the nanoVNA family of VNA's as often a VNA is a much better tool than a SA with a tracking generator.
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Re: Restore presets after firmware update? #feature_request

 

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 10:02 PM, Alan WA4SCA wrote:
... is there a way to save preset configurations?
Alan?WA4SCA,

You can save and restore the configuration data with the help of the command line tool dfu-util, available as and as??from Erik's site.

Switch the device in DFU mode with "MENU / CONFIG / -> DFU / ENTER DFU" and save (upload to PC) it with:
? dfu-util --device 0483:df11 --alt 0 --dfuse-address 0x0801D000 --upload tinySA_config.bin
Chose the file name to store as you like, e.g. 'tinySA_config.bin' - this file shall not exist before otherwise the command fails. So you cannot overwrite already existing set-up data.

Switch to DFU mode and restore (download to tinySA) the saved config:?
? dfu-util --device 0483:df11 --alt 0 --dfuse-address 0x0801D000 --download tinySA_config.bin

For tinySA Ultra the config address in flash has changed, the command are (untested):
? dfu-util --device 0483:df11 --alt 0 --dfuse-address 0x0803C000 --upload tinySA_Ultra_config.bin
?dfu-util --device 0483:df11 --alt 0 --dfuse-address 0x0803C000 --download tinySA_Ultra_config.bin
If you make a small HW modification you can enter the DFU mode for tinySA simply by pressing the jog switch while turning power on.

Martin


Re: TinySA as Tracking Generator

 

On 28/11/2022 23:28, Fleet Senseman wrote:
Do I have the tools to do so with these two spectrum analyzers?
73, Fleet
Fleet,

One program you might like to know about is Satsagen:



As you gather more hardware, you may find its tracking generator/spectrum analyser capabilities quite handy.

Alberto /might/ be interested in adding some tinySA support, but I don't know whether he has the hardware or how busy he is!

Cheers,
David
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Re: TinySA as Tracking Generator

 

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 10:36 PM, Fleet Senseman wrote:
Can I use the TinySA as a tracking generator for the RF Explorer?
Yes and no.
If you can put the RF explorer in max hold mode, you can let both devices independently sweep the target range and hope that after some time you have been able to catch all frequencies but this can take considerable time.
It is not possible to sweep in a synchronized way.
You could create a PC application that control the sweeping of both devices.

May I suggest you look into the nanoVNA family of VNA's as often a VNA is a much better tool than a SA with a tracking generator.
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TinySA as Tracking Generator

 

Greetings,

First off, I'm very, very new to spectrum analyzers.? I'm also a first year ham operator.? I found the web page showing how two TinySAs could be used, one for a tracking generator, the other acting as the spectrum analyzer.? I don't have two TinySA's yet (Ultra, I'm looking at you!) but I'd like to learn how the two combined work together.? Again, I'm a beginner here.

I bought my TinySA to use as a sacrificial instrument until I learned how to use one without blowing it up.? I also have an RF Explorer spectrum analyzer that goes to 6GHz and I read the manual before using it and learned of some of the pitfalls awaiting someone with no knowledge of power levels and how to attenuate them.? I know more now, at least in the safety department and I am looking to maximize the use of my tools.? My question is:? Can I use the TinySA as a tracking generator for the RF Explorer?? If I can then I'll proceed as shown by Erik and go from there.? i don't even know how/why a tracking generator is used but I wish to find out.? Do I have the tools to do so with these two spectrum analyzers?

73, Fleet