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Re: Top 3 pixel rows no good

 

All tinySA behave this way, it never has been reported as an issue.?
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For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/


Re: Test 6: Above Fail

 

Jeeez, ;-) this is turning into the 'four Yorkshiremen" script from Monty Python !!! .. chill out.? If you have bad eyesight then get the correct treatment. In 99% of cases it is perfectly possible with modern technology. Even hand shaking can be controlled in certain situations. As for other medical issues, sh"t happens. That's life. No 'luck' involved.
Maybe we should start a 'Day Care' centre? ? HIHI :) :) :)
73
Joe


Re: Test 6: Above Fail

 

Every Day Is A Gift!
Be glad you woke up, many don't get that option any more.

Tim? K4SHF



Re: Test 6: Above Fail

 

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Very well said Dave!!!!!

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You¡¯ve got 20 years on me, but my health is not much better, if at all better, than yours.

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Life is a struggle, but it is accepting what you can¡¯t manage and asking friends for help, and if no help, they aren¡¯t friends.

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I¡¯m lucky to have a few close friends who are helpful, but like the rest of us, they too are getting on in years!

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Keep going Dave¡­.!

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Regards,

Keith Watt RGN (Rtd.)

G4MSF/GB7XX/MB7UXX

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of DAVE REISER X-WA3TRS

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I¡¯m almost 82 and lost my left arm to cancer¡¯s radiation therapy 8 years ago.? I can¡¯t solder at all anymore.? So stop your griping.? YOU¡±RE LUCKY TO BE ALIVE>

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Kind Regards,

Dave

Dave Reiser, WA3TRS

Email:? davereiser@...


Re: Test 6: Above Fail

 

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I¡¯m almost 82 and lost my left arm to cancer¡¯s radiation therapy 8 years ago.? I can¡¯t solder at all anymore.? So stop your griping.? YOU¡±RE LUCKY TO BE ALIVE>

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Kind Regards,

Dave

Dave Reiser, WA3TRS

Email:? davereiser@...


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 3:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Test 6: Above Fail

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I am 73 and was able to solder the little ESD chips on the inputs to the tinySA and nanoVNA. I felt good about being able to do that with bad vision & shaky hands even. Those little 603 diodes are a bugger.


Top 3 pixel rows no good

 

I ran the touch test and found that touching any of the top 3 or 4 rows of pixels isn't considered a touch. You have to move the stylus down from the top about 4 rows before it registers. Tried setting touch up 3 or 4 times, but this problem messes up my touch screen calibration and had to do a reset on the unit to get the touch screen working again. My question is should I return the unit because these upper most rows of pixels don't work or are they really not needed. I only saw a problem when drawing on the screen when testing the touch screen, the top of the box that you draw was noticeably down from the top most row. Anyone see a problem with NOT being able to use the top 3 or 4 rows of pixels?
Return the unit?
thanks!

Bill


Re: Test 6: Above Fail

 

Stan, you can say that again...old age is not for the meek...


On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 12:35 AM Stan Gammons via <buttercup11421=[email protected]> wrote:
This is true. I didn't have any trouble doing SMT work 30+ years ago using a Vision Engineering Mantis stereo microscope with a 4X lens.? Now that I'm approaching 60, SMT work is a bit more of a challenge. Hands nor vision are what they were 30+ years ago.


73

Stan
KM4HQE


On 6/17/22 17:12, Terry Perdue wrote:
Good vision is only half the equation. A steady hand is also necessary. Both get worse with age.


On Jun 17, 2022, at 2:27 PM, Robert Entwistle <rentwist@...> wrote:

?Hi Guys,

FWIW, all I do in DIY kits is SMT, I am 62 with very bad vision myself.? A B&L Stereozoom (4) stereo microscope is essential.? I have no trouble doing TQFP's, QFN's, down to 0402 passives, SOT-23's SOT-363's, etc.? You can too!

73,

Robert, WA2T


Re: Test 6: Above Fail

 

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This is true. I didn't have any trouble doing SMT work 30+ years ago using a Vision Engineering Mantis stereo microscope with a 4X lens.? Now that I'm approaching 60, SMT work is a bit more of a challenge. Hands nor vision are what they were 30+ years ago.


73

Stan
KM4HQE


On 6/17/22 17:12, Terry Perdue wrote:

Good vision is only half the equation. A steady hand is also necessary. Both get worse with age.


On Jun 17, 2022, at 2:27 PM, Robert Entwistle <rentwist@...> wrote:

?Hi Guys,

FWIW, all I do in DIY kits is SMT, I am 62 with very bad vision myself.? A B&L Stereozoom (4) stereo microscope is essential.? I have no trouble doing TQFP's, QFN's, down to 0402 passives, SOT-23's SOT-363's, etc.? You can too!

73,

Robert, WA2T


Re: How to update using Mac

 

On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 02:31 AM, <fastguido@...> wrote:
Totally lost now.
Hello Guido,
OK, if you have never used the Terminal program under MacOS it is not so easy.
When you go web page
you will see a big green button, labeled Download, see below:



Click on that green button and a download? of file dfu-util-0.11-binaries.tat.xz starts to MacOS folder Download (usually).
Then you need to rename in Finder file dfu-util-0.11-binaries.tar.xz to dfu-util-0.11-binaries.tar, which is an archive file.
With a double click of the mouse on file dfu-util-0.11-binaries.tar this file is unpacked to folder dfu-util-0.11-binaries.
Then you have to use the Terminal.

If you have never used the Terminal in MacOS, you have to learn something new.
Good luck.

73, Rudi DL5FA


Re: How to update using Mac

 

Totally lost now. I just don't understand what you guys are telling me. Seems to be two different ways that you showing me. ?Also when I click on??http://dfu-util.sourceforge.net/releases there are whole list of files, which ones to use, all or just one?


Re: Test 6: Above Fail

 

How true! I have to take any solder jobs over to a friend. My hands shake unbelievably and I'm only 68, figured I had another 10 years to go and hopefully longer than that...
But I keep waking up on the green side of the grass...that's a good start to my day.
Every Day Is a Gift!

Tim? K4SHF


On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 6:13 PM Terry Perdue <K8tp@...> wrote:
Good vision is only half the equation. A steady hand is also necessary. Both get worse with age.


On Jun 17, 2022, at 2:27 PM, Robert Entwistle <rentwist@...> wrote:

?Hi Guys,

FWIW, all I do in DIY kits is SMT, I am 62 with very bad vision myself.? A B&L Stereozoom (4) stereo microscope is essential.? I have no trouble doing TQFP's, QFN's, down to 0402 passives, SOT-23's SOT-363's, etc.? You can too!

73,

Robert, WA2T


Re: Test 6: Above Fail

 

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Completely drifted off the topic but I didn't think I could do SMD at 70 plus. I started with the big ones at 1206 on simple things but now do 0805's on more complex projects. I don't use any expensive magnifiers, I glued a jewelers loupe from ebay for a few GBP to a cheap pair of reading glasses from the local supermarket to give x20 magnification.



On 17/06/2022 23:12, Terry Perdue wrote:

Good vision is only half the equation. A steady hand is also necessary. Both get worse with age.


On Jun 17, 2022, at 2:27 PM, Robert Entwistle <rentwist@...> wrote:

?Hi Guys,

FWIW, all I do in DIY kits is SMT, I am 62 with very bad vision myself.? A B&L Stereozoom (4) stereo microscope is essential.? I have no trouble doing TQFP's, QFN's, down to 0402 passives, SOT-23's SOT-363's, etc.? You can too!

73,

Robert, WA2T


Re: Test 6: Above Fail

 

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Good vision is only half the equation. A steady hand is also necessary. Both get worse with age.


On Jun 17, 2022, at 2:27 PM, Robert Entwistle <rentwist@...> wrote:

?Hi Guys,

FWIW, all I do in DIY kits is SMT, I am 62 with very bad vision myself.? A B&L Stereozoom (4) stereo microscope is essential.? I have no trouble doing TQFP's, QFN's, down to 0402 passives, SOT-23's SOT-363's, etc.? You can too!

73,

Robert, WA2T


Re: Test 6: Above Fail

 

Hi Guys,

FWIW, all I do in DIY kits is SMT, I am 62 with very bad vision myself.? A B&L Stereozoom (4) stereo microscope is essential.? I have no trouble doing TQFP's, QFN's, down to 0402 passives, SOT-23's SOT-363's, etc.? You can too!

73,

Robert, WA2T


Re: Low Cost Broadband Pre-Amplifier

 

To add data to your last email, Erik:? We have had several connectorized but bare board, preamps from epay at LTO (Little Thompson Observatory <>) in our various radio astronomy ventures.? Many of those do not come up to advertised specifications and most of them have become trash in a few days or weeks.? They're cheap, but don't perform.? Be careful of epay preamp purchases.?

Dave - W?LEV


On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 8:01 PM Erik Kaashoek <erik@...> wrote:
Never buy from a non specialized seller. Positive feedback should be above 99%.
The shop should sell many electronics components or modules and preferably already sold a lot of the LNA modules with real feedback.

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Dave - W?LEV
Just Let Darwin Work


Re: Low Cost Broadband Pre-Amplifier

 

Never buy from a non specialized seller. Positive feedback should be above 99%.
The shop should sell many electronics components or modules and preferably already sold a lot of the LNA modules with real feedback.

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For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/


Re: Low Cost Broadband Pre-Amplifier

 

Remember, gain is not the only important parameter.? Noise figure or noise temperature are important as well to increase the (S+N)/N ratio.? For example, a 10 dB gain amp with a 9 dB noise figure really won't do much good.

Dave - W?LEV


On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 7:36 PM Keith_Who <keith@...> wrote:

Another interesting LNA and very inexpensive;

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Quotes;

Operating frequency£º0.1-2000MHz
Power supply voltage: 6-12 VDC
Maximum power output
£º+10dBm (10mW)
System impedance
£º50 ohm
Amplifier gain
£º
F=0.1MHz, gain=32dB
F=500Mhz, gain=31dB
F=1000MHz, gain=29dB

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May be sacrifice a little gain and put a 10 db attenuator between the amp and the Tiny SA to make sure the input to the Tiny SA is never at risk of damage from high signal inputs to the amplifier?

I would like to hear other people¡¯s thoughts on such an idea?

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Thank you.

Kind regards,

Keith (In the UK)

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Keith_Who
Sent: 17 June 2022 19:40
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Low Cost Broadband Pre-Amplifier

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Erik,

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How do you tell a fake eBay LSPF5189 LNA from a real LSPF5189 LNA PCB?

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They all are nearly marked as 50 MHz to 4 GHz, but the description of this one says it will go down to 0.1 MHz or 100 KHz;

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I¡¯m very interested in low level signal detection, but a close friend of mine recently blew up the attenuator on the low input connector after looking at the noise level outputted from a LISN. He had a physical external -6db attenuator in circuit, but decided to remove it because he wanted to look at some lower level signals and after connecting the Tiny SA back up without the physical external -6db attenuator in circuit, the low input went exceedingly insensitive and we guessed the electronic attenuator had failed.

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Neither myself or my friend have good enough eye sight or steady hands to repair this tiny SA, if anyone in the group can help in fixing the Tiny SA I would dearly love to hear from you please.

?

Kind regards,

Keith (In the UK)

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Erik Kaashoek
Sent: 17 June 2022 18:36
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Low Cost Broadband Pre-Amplifier

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Any wide band LNA you can buy on eBay will work as long as you buy from a reputed seller, preferably one that has sold many.
It won't hurt if the upper frequency is way above 1GHz but its not needed.
Make sure the frequency range starts below the minimum required frequency

Example of what can be done:?

The LSPF5189 LNA works well at 3.3Volt.
Make sure you get a genuine, there are many fakes that will self destroy in a day or two



--
Dave - W?LEV
Just Let Darwin Work


Re: Low Cost Broadband Pre-Amplifier

 

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Another interesting LNA and very inexpensive;

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?

Quotes;

Operating frequency£º0.1-2000MHz
Power supply voltage: 6-12 VDC
Maximum power output
£º+10dBm (10mW)
System impedance
£º50 ohm
Amplifier gain
£º
F=0.1MHz, gain=32dB
F=500Mhz, gain=31dB
F=1000MHz, gain=29dB

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May be sacrifice a little gain and put a 10 db attenuator between the amp and the Tiny SA to make sure the input to the Tiny SA is never at risk of damage from high signal inputs to the amplifier?

I would like to hear other people¡¯s thoughts on such an idea?

?

Thank you.

Kind regards,

Keith (In the UK)

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?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Keith_Who
Sent: 17 June 2022 19:40
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Low Cost Broadband Pre-Amplifier

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Erik,

?

How do you tell a fake eBay LSPF5189 LNA from a real LSPF5189 LNA PCB?

?

They all are nearly marked as 50 MHz to 4 GHz, but the description of this one says it will go down to 0.1 MHz or 100 KHz;

?

?

I¡¯m very interested in low level signal detection, but a close friend of mine recently blew up the attenuator on the low input connector after looking at the noise level outputted from a LISN. He had a physical external -6db attenuator in circuit, but decided to remove it because he wanted to look at some lower level signals and after connecting the Tiny SA back up without the physical external -6db attenuator in circuit, the low input went exceedingly insensitive and we guessed the electronic attenuator had failed.

?

Neither myself or my friend have good enough eye sight or steady hands to repair this tiny SA, if anyone in the group can help in fixing the Tiny SA I would dearly love to hear from you please.

?

Kind regards,

Keith (In the UK)

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Erik Kaashoek
Sent: 17 June 2022 18:36
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] Low Cost Broadband Pre-Amplifier

?

Any wide band LNA you can buy on eBay will work as long as you buy from a reputed seller, preferably one that has sold many.
It won't hurt if the upper frequency is way above 1GHz but its not needed.
Make sure the frequency range starts below the minimum required frequency

Example of what can be done:?

The LSPF5189 LNA works well at 3.3Volt.
Make sure you get a genuine, there are many fakes that will self destroy in a day or two


Re: Low Cost Broadband Pre-Amplifier

 

On 17/06/2022 18:17, koralrf via groups.io wrote:
Does anyone know of a good low cost broadband pre-amplifier which can be used
with the Tiny SA?

I have an old HP 8447E (Gain 22dB +/- 1.5dB from 100kHz to 1.3Ghz) which I use
for EN55011/CISPR11 measurements, but it would be nice to have a smaller
pre-amp for use with the Tiny SA.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Tony
Tony,

You may need to be careful not to exceed the rated maximum input to the TinySA
from the maximum output of your LNA. Perhaps adding a filter for the range in
interest would help - avoiding large FM broadcast signals, for example....

Cheers,
David
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SatSignal Software - Quality software for you
Web:
Email: david-taylor@...
Twitter: @gm8arv


Re: Low Cost Broadband Pre-Amplifier

 

Minicircuits also markets good, well specified, and reliable connectorized preamps in the $50 range and MMICs in the $3 to $15 range (if you want to build your own).?

Dave - W?LEV?


On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 5:36 PM Erik Kaashoek <erik@...> wrote:
Any wide band LNA you can buy on eBay will work as long as you buy from a reputed seller, preferably one that has sold many.
It won't hurt if the upper frequency is way above 1GHz but its not needed.
Make sure the frequency range starts below the minimum required frequency

Example of what can be done:?

The LSPF5189 LNA works well at 3.3Volt.
Make sure you get a genuine, there are many fakes that will self destroy in a day or two


--
For more info on the tinySA go to



--
Dave - W?LEV
Just Let Darwin Work