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Re: TinySA battery no longer charging

 

Tried a different USB cable, made no difference. Tried a different USB charger, including a laptop USB port, no change.
What I tried was to completely drain the battery by leaving the TinySA turned on overnight. Then plugged in the USB cable to charge it. Charged for about 3 hours, but the battery voltage only gets to about 3.73v.


Re: Firmware update #tinysa

 

Here for me it was perfect. Wonder.
I just noticed that the automatic att of the HIGH channel doesn't seem to work, but it could be a problem with my square wave generator. But the problem I was having when calibrating, has been solved.
Thanks.


Re: How do people keep getting clones? #tinysa

M0PWX
 

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Gets worse,

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They spend thousand on a rig, mega bucks on antenna and tower, then feed it with a 30 year old RG58 from their scrap box then moan everything is rubbish

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73

Peter

M0PWX

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Sent from for Windows

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From: Martin via groups.io
Sent: 23 August 2021 15:05

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On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 02:37 PM, Dave (NK7Z) wrote:

The authors add, there are a number of other symptoms involved in this sadly debilitating disease

Yeh, like spending thousands on a new radio, but still using the cheapest bit of wet string available as the antenna.

Regards,

Martin

_._,_._,_


Re: Auto peak marker

 

1: Grab the marker and move it to where you want it and it will stay there
or
2: MARKER/MODIFY MARKER/ disable TRACKING
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Re: How do people keep getting clones? #tinysa

 

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Erik ¨C it¡¯s a shame that the cloners have ripped off your product like this.? This is a global issue that is happening more and more often and, quite honestly, I take the point of view that a lot of what¡¯s for sale through Amazon is at a much higher risk of being fake, and try to be cautious (and buy elsewhere).? You would think that a company the size of Amazon would clamp down and actively prevent fake products from going through their systems.

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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> on behalf of Erik Kaashoek <erik@...>
Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, August 23, 2021 at 6:46 AM
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [tinysa] How do people keep getting clones? #tinysa

?

To be sure to buy a genuine tinySA have a look at the "where to buy" list:?

Look at the serial number at the back of your tinySA.
If the number starts with "AD" its a clone.
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Auto peak marker

Loren Moline WA7SKT
 

How do I change the auto peak marker to manual so I can lock it on a particular signal? I am fairly new to using the TinySA. Thanks!


Re: Cell phone signals

Loren Moline WA7SKT
 

Correction: -50dbm.?


Re: How do people keep getting clones? #tinysa

 

On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 02:37 PM, Dave (NK7Z) wrote:
The authors add, there are a number of other symptoms involved in this sadly debilitating disease
Yeh, like spending thousands on a new radio, but still using the cheapest bit of wet string available as the antenna.

Regards,

Martin


Cell phone signals

Loren Moline WA7SKT
 

I am wondering if anyone has measured cell signals and if 50dbm is considered good?


Re: How do people keep getting clones? #tinysa

 

Hit the atom right on the nucleus.

John
VE7KKQ


On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 7:37 AM Dave (NK7Z) <dave@...> wrote:
PRESS RELEASE
For immediate release
Release date: 03/12/2021
FAKE NEWS
HUMOR

A research team led by Quincy Raymond Michales, and Quincy Thomas
Holmes, of Miskatonic Medical University have discovered two new genes
potentially involved in Amateur Radio Cheapness disease, or ACD. They
identified them by exploring which genes were turned on and off in the
hippocampus of people who suffered from the disease. The team's findings
are published in the February issue of QST magazine.

Amateur Cheapness disease, (ACD), is a neurodegenerative disease that
involves extreme pain and the formation of protein plaques around
neurons in the brain when any amount of money is spent, no matter how
small. A table below outlines the effects of spending on a typical Radio
Amateur:

Amount Spent Pain level
=================================================================================
$00.00 - $03.00 Little to none
$03.01 - $05.00 Some pain noted, with slight thoughts of building a
replacement
? ? ? ? ? for less.
$05.01 - $10.00 Marked increase in pain, actual designs thought about for
? ? ? ? ? replacement items.
$10.01 - $20.00 Sustained pain, over longer time frames, designs being
drawn up.
$20.01 - and above Extreme pain, and actual urges to construct replacement
? ? ? ? ? devices.
Table 1

A secondary effect was also noted, once the Amateur decides to build a
replacement item, (see $20.00 and above in Table 1), to save money, the
process begins to feed upon itself, as the Amateur shops for parts for
the replacement item, he/she, experiences the effects of Amateur
Cheapness disease overlayed on top of the original Amateur Cheapness
Disease infection. In some cases this becomes completely debilitating to
the Amateur involved. This process is extremely painful. In some cases,
observers have noted this fact by observing statements such as:

? ? ?1. "Oh my God, its like the walking dead in this hamfest, no one is
spending any money".
? ? ?2. "You have got to be kidding me, I paid good money for that
thing, and I'm not giving it away".
Table 2

The hippocampus, part of the brain involved in memory, is one of the
first regions to sustain massive damage, followed by the reasoning
center of the brain.

Many genes were already known to contribute to the disease, such as gene
JT-65, and gene FT-8, but two were unknown, FST4, and FST4W. The FST4,
and FST4W gene action is as of yet unknown, the researchers simply noted
these genes expressed at the time of hippocampus destruction.

In a related study, it was noted that the size of the hippocampus was
actually reduced by up to 12% in Amateur Operators experiencing this
disease. Further this second study indicates that ACD, (Amateur
Cheapness disease), is far more prevalent in the Amateur Radio
population than initially thought, and that signs of airborne
transmission are becoming apparent.

Overall, the new findings improve our understanding of the genetic and
cellular mechanisms that cause ACD. Also noted by the researchers were
some tell tail signs of this disease. Effected Amateur may make
statements such as:

? ? ?1. I bet I can build that for half the price.
? ? ?2. That's outrageous, when I was a Novice it only cost X dollars.
? ? ?3. There's only like twenty bucks in parts here, I could build it
for half that.
? ? ?4. I only buy used if it is 25% of new price.
Table 3

The authors add, there are a number of other symptoms involved in this
sadly debilitating disease, however they are far too many to cover in a
single paper. Thus, more funding is requested for the effort.



On 8/23/21 6:17 AM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
> Many people buy first from the cheapest seller and only later inform
> themselves about the tinysA
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> For more info on the tinySA go to
>
73,
Dave,








Re: How do people keep getting clones? #tinysa

 

PRESS RELEASE
For immediate release
Release date: 03/12/2021
FAKE NEWS
HUMOR

A research team led by Quincy Raymond Michales, and Quincy Thomas Holmes, of Miskatonic Medical University have discovered two new genes potentially involved in Amateur Radio Cheapness disease, or ACD. They identified them by exploring which genes were turned on and off in the hippocampus of people who suffered from the disease. The team's findings are published in the February issue of QST magazine.

Amateur Cheapness disease, (ACD), is a neurodegenerative disease that involves extreme pain and the formation of protein plaques around neurons in the brain when any amount of money is spent, no matter how small. A table below outlines the effects of spending on a typical Radio Amateur:

Amount Spent Pain level
=================================================================================
$00.00 - $03.00 Little to none
$03.01 - $05.00 Some pain noted, with slight thoughts of building a replacement
for less.
$05.01 - $10.00 Marked increase in pain, actual designs thought about for
replacement items.
$10.01 - $20.00 Sustained pain, over longer time frames, designs being drawn up.
$20.01 - and above Extreme pain, and actual urges to construct replacement
devices.
Table 1

A secondary effect was also noted, once the Amateur decides to build a replacement item, (see $20.00 and above in Table 1), to save money, the process begins to feed upon itself, as the Amateur shops for parts for the replacement item, he/she, experiences the effects of Amateur Cheapness disease overlayed on top of the original Amateur Cheapness Disease infection. In some cases this becomes completely debilitating to the Amateur involved. This process is extremely painful. In some cases, observers have noted this fact by observing statements such as:

1. "Oh my God, its like the walking dead in this hamfest, no one is spending any money".
2. "You have got to be kidding me, I paid good money for that thing, and I'm not giving it away".
Table 2

The hippocampus, part of the brain involved in memory, is one of the first regions to sustain massive damage, followed by the reasoning center of the brain.

Many genes were already known to contribute to the disease, such as gene JT-65, and gene FT-8, but two were unknown, FST4, and FST4W. The FST4, and FST4W gene action is as of yet unknown, the researchers simply noted these genes expressed at the time of hippocampus destruction.

In a related study, it was noted that the size of the hippocampus was actually reduced by up to 12% in Amateur Operators experiencing this disease. Further this second study indicates that ACD, (Amateur Cheapness disease), is far more prevalent in the Amateur Radio population than initially thought, and that signs of airborne transmission are becoming apparent.

Overall, the new findings improve our understanding of the genetic and cellular mechanisms that cause ACD. Also noted by the researchers were some tell tail signs of this disease. Effected Amateur may make statements such as:

1. I bet I can build that for half the price.
2. That's outrageous, when I was a Novice it only cost X dollars.
3. There's only like twenty bucks in parts here, I could build it for half that.
4. I only buy used if it is 25% of new price.
Table 3

The authors add, there are a number of other symptoms involved in this sadly debilitating disease, however they are far too many to cover in a single paper. Thus, more funding is requested for the effort.



On 8/23/21 6:17 AM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
Many people buy first from the cheapest seller and only later inform themselves about the tinysA
--
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For more info on the tinySA go to
73,
Dave,


Re: How do people keep getting clones? #tinysa

 

To be sure to buy a genuine tinySA have a look at the "where to buy" list:?
Look at the serial number at the back of your tinySA.
If the number starts with "AD" its a clone.
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For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/


Re: How do people keep getting clones? #tinysa

 

Erik

hi I would just like to echo Larry's comments, the TinySA is a brilliant piece of kit ...

?... I bought my TinySA from a UK supplier that was listed as a recommended? UK dealer - and I paid in full straight away, i.e. I purchased in good faith.?

As far as I can tell? my TinySA is genuine, the self tests run but I have not had to put it to any further tests, or upgrade firmware.

Erik,
I can understand your ire that 'non perfect' copies are infringing your intellectual copyright and tarnishing your Trademark, logo and reputation, but where do those who bought from a genuine source stand when the "genuine source", for one reason or another, drops of the list and our genuine items morph into clones??
The TinkSA price is a bargain and every Radio Amateur's dream come true but in relative terms it is still a significant amount for a home enthusiast to purchase, it is galling to think the investment made in good faith may become a piece of 'silicon' scrap.

I intended to buy a 2nd SA to use as a tracking generator and maybe the 'VNA as well, but where do I do my shopping?? If my 1st purchase transpires to be a clone what can I do ???

There ought to be a simple way for you to protect your products and the interests of those who purchase it.
Thank you for your efforts!


Re: How do people keep getting clones? #tinysa

 

Many people buy first from the cheapest seller and only later inform themselves about the tinysA
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Re: Firmware update #tinysa

 

Hi Erik,
I will test the new FW update later today.
BTW thanks for the nice job you did with this project and
your quick response for every one that had some questions.
73, Wim.


Re: How do people keep getting clones? #tinysa

M0PWX
 

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I came here after being recommended ?to join the group in the QRPLabs groups as I was looking at getting a TinySA

?

Looking at the information about how to spot a fake, mainly by serial number I checked a couple of ebay stores and all seemed to show the real type of serial numbers in the photos of the product but I suspect they were fakes

?

I had a few issues with this relating to RTL-SDR¡¯s s well, the stores on ebay / amazon etc use images and information from the real deal its only when you get the device you find its a fake and a poor copy

?

The webstores are good at making the product look genuine without actually claiming it to be, so can¡¯t easily be prosecuted for misrepresentation

?

I have looked at the UK reseller recommended its about ?15 more expensive than the ¡°genuine¡± ebay ones, but I will pay the extra and get it from there, saves a lot of problems later down the line

?

73

Peter

M0PWX

?

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From: Lawrance A. Schneider

?

Hello Erik,

Thank you for developing the tinySA.

You keep telling people where to buy an original. ?How the hell do some keep getting clones. ?Are the recommended dealers somehow receiving clones and then selling them as originals? ?You must be tired of answering questions about clones.

Thus, if the recommended dealers aren't selling clones, why do people keep asking for help when they must have NOT FOLLOWED YOUR ADVICE AS TO FROM WHOM TO BUY.

I love my 2 originals I bought from R&L. ?With all the questions about fake tinySAes, I worry that somehow I got a clone from R&L. ?Simply, if recommended dealers are selling originals, WHY ARE PEOPLE BUYING CLONES?

Thank you for your efforts! ? ? ? ? ?larry

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Re: How do people keep getting clones? #tinysa

 

Hi Larry. I bought my tinySA in the first shipment available from Zeenko (they had maybe 100 units available). I asked in another post about the graph, just to be able to compare the result with other equipment sold here in Brazil.?/g/tinysa/message/5481
Sellers claim to buy from official representatives, but with so many clones, it's hard to tell.?


How do people keep getting clones? #tinysa

 

Hello Erik,

Thank you for developing the tinySA.

You keep telling people where to buy an original. ?How the hell do some keep getting clones. ?Are the recommended dealers somehow receiving clones and then selling them as originals? ?You must be tired of answering questions about clones.

Thus, if the recommended dealers aren't selling clones, why do people keep asking for help when they must have NOT FOLLOWED YOUR ADVICE AS TO FROM WHOM TO BUY.

I love my 2 originals I bought from R&L. ?With all the questions about fake tinySAes, I worry that somehow I got a clone from R&L. ?Simply, if recommended dealers are selling originals, WHY ARE PEOPLE BUYING CLONES?

Thank you for your efforts! ? ? ? ? ?larry


Re: Firmware update #tinysa

 

Can you try if the new release solves the problems?
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New FW release: Set actual input level error corrected

 
Edited

New FW release
Version V1.3317

Changes:
- Bug solved: Setting the actual input level gives wrong leveloffset
- Bug solved: Green line remains after selftest

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