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Hi everyone, I have used my tinySA basic version for several years and it has passed the self-calibration. When I set the 10MHz test and connected nothing, it would appear in the spectrum. I have also ruled out the interference from my environment. Is this an internal circuit problem?

I got everything to work as I wanted! Thank you again Erik! Your help was very much appreciated :)

The tinySA can do channel power measurements. You can use a channel wide enough to capture all the spectral components and it will give you the total power.

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It has to do with whether the IF bandwidth is sufficient to capture all of the spectral components, and also with the fact that the SA is calibrated to respond correctly to a CW signal, not power, although newer SAs have an RMS detector function.?

There is an additional adjustment which accounts for the different way in which the analyzer responds to noise(like) signals than to CW.

Here is a Keysight app note which goes into more detail: ?

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There is also a need to compensate for CW signals in the presence of noise. When the signal is 10dB above the noise there is an approximate 0.4dB error due to the noise power being added to the CW signal; when the signal is equal to the noise there is a 3dB error.? I have a spreadsheet which takes as inputs the noise level and CW signal level and makes the correction as well as an article by Morris Engleson (who authored a very excellent book on spectrum analysis) explaining the calculation and its background.? Newer analyzers also have a similar noise correction routine.

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Best regards, Don

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Thanks for this Don,

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so FM, nFM and AM will all have their power level impacted by a change to RBW, is there any formula for this ? Or is it a fairly minimal impact??

Or it is more to do with the “Noise Like” nature of the signal, a CW is very uniform where these other types are more chaotic ??

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That filter is the same I am using looking at our 6GHz STL, it works well.

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John

The power level of a CW signal should remain the same with RBW changes.? Modulated signals (which are noise-like) and noise signals (like the baseline noise level) will change with RBW changes.

73, Don N2VGU

Thanks Guys,

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I’ve been using one of these:

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It seems to be doing a good job at backing everything else off.

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Is there a better antenna for this work? I ran a crude test with a number of antennas including an Omni from the video link manufacturer and this seemed to be the most sensitive.?

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Make sure you have a high pass or band pass filter in line when measuring with an antenna like this at those frequencies.I normally use Mini circuits high pass filters they are good enough to suppress anything from the lower range to bleed through.

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John

On Sat, Apr 12, 2025 at 12:10 AM, Ash McKenzie wrote:

There seems to be random noise from the 7.3g mark onwards, is it case where the unit can only be used in Ultra under 7.3 and then must recalibrated to Harmonic Mode 7.3 and above ? there arent any option for ai cross over range are there ?

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Need to look into this?

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Second question (RF/SpecAn), I have been learning about the DANL change that occurs when changing the RBW my question, should power level dbm remain consistent when changing RBW, is it only the accuracy & DANL ?

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Yes

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Thanks to Erik and All devs for a wonderful device, also thanks to Ian for his great python work (the app)

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Just wondering about expected behavior of the 407 when working close to 7.3g, I'm doing some environmental monitoring of Video Links 7.1, 7.285,

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There seems to be random noise from the 7.3g mark onwards, is it case where the unit can only be used in Ultra under 7.3 and then must recalibrated to Harmonic Mode 7.3 and above ? there arent any option for a cross over range are there ?

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Second question (RF/SpecAn), I have been learning about the DANL change that occurs when changing the RBW my question, should power level dbm remain consistent when changing RBW, is it only the accuracy & DANL ?

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Thanks

Ash?

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G in AF formula is the Linear Gain of the antenna

I will first try with PCTEL OP451 omni wb antenna and will also take into consideration at least a log antenna.
Already calculated all required info, specially AF (needed as input into TinySA - TRACE/CALC/TABLE TRACE)

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If you are interested in knowing the field strength at your location, you only need to consider the equipment at your end. It makes no difference how the field happened to get there. If you are designing a communication system link budget then you would need to consider both ends.?

I have one of the WA5VJB antennas and he does a nice job, if it matches your frequency range of interest.

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Good luck!
Craig

So, I asked ChatGPT and gave me this answer:
Is "shortcut formula" good enough for my use-case?

Thank you. I think I found the line in the code to edit.?

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Search ESD in the Messages section for more information

The source of the tinySA is on github.

You can change this value in the code and build a new FW

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The selftest shows that U22 needs to be replaced, no problem

But I see D4 at the RF input. Is this a real diode? There is no recognizable marking on the part.

Because if so this tests blown also. What type of diode should it be replaced with?

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Regards, Johan