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Re: The Amazon Camii-Direct story continues...
I've said nothing that wasn't already present here. When they asked for an address I said "see Amazon". I have a cutout address that's a federal felony to abuse, and I haven't so much as given that. Either Camii-Direct gets what they need from Amazon (I have no control over that), or the discussion goes no further. Meanwhile there's a record of the exchange which, it's my intent, will give folks a view of what dealing with either a fishy or incompetent vendor looks like. "Look, listen, and learn".
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Re: Grey Screen After Firmware Update
Why are folks /not/ using the TinySA app to update the firmware? It seems much
simpler to me. The STM program has definitions of upload and download which may not do what you expect.... Cheers, David -- SatSignal Software - Quality software for you Web: Email: davidtaylor@... Twitter: @gm8arv |
Re: The Amazon Camii-Direct story continues...
Not familiar with Mosaic?
In order to find out something hidden, one gathers a number of small bits of information about what is hidden. Put all the small bits of information together can reveal what is hidden. You are giving them small bits of information. Now they know the version of the clone they sent you has a flaw. They know you have an ¡°in¡± with the someone who knows the product intimately and can identify their fakes. They know you are willing to give them more bits of information. |
Re: Excel macro to convert TinySA CSV files to WWB and IAS on Mac OS
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Yes
-- Designer of the tinySA For more info go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/ |
Re: The Amazon Camii-Direct story continues...
No. They're the original unit.?
@all: I've handed Camii-Direct the choice of send a good unit or not. Remember Erik didn't say what. in the original pictures, said "clone". Quoting the contact with Camii-Direct doesn't say anything more than my sending the unit back does. That alone said "nice try, cloner - fail" but doesn't say where the failure is. Having a modest background in a couple of security-related areas, I have a fair sense of paranoia. Up to this point my spidey-sense wasn't tingling. And then came this exchange. Now my spidey-sense is tingling. Hello Richard, Send your delivery address to us. We will arrange for you immediately after receiving. Camii Customer Service TeamEither this is phishing or incompetency. My reply: Please refer to Amazon for the shipping address for the original order. Quoting from Amazon policy "For your security, do not include any personal information including email addresses, physical addresses, phone numbers or credit card numbers in your message."I'm a nice guy, but I'm not that nice.? 73 Rick KC3DOO |
Re: The Amazon Camii-Direct story continues...
What I have found out with a batch of transistors is the company in china that is licensed to make them would get a bad batch or would not pass customer prams would go into an area and be sold off to someone for pennys on the dollar. These manufacturers don't take a loss.?
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So then they will sell thes units off and they may work in some applications. The manufacturer said check collector to emitter if 1 meg they are bad. Same thing might be what is happening here. Batch of miss printed cased, under rated components that do not pass customers specs are getting sold to recover any loss for cheap.? Just my opinion. They one i purchased off ebay looks good and passed all tests.
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Re: The Amazon Camii-Direct story continues...
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 02:13 PM, chri5k wrote:
So now you are going to help the cloners refine their clones?I'd agree, I don't think it's a good idea to send stuff like this to the vendor, it will just improve the cosmetic quality of the clones. In fact, it's not a good idea posting pictures of clones on an open forum like this. If you didn't buy it from an approved vendor, and it doesn't pass the self tests, then it's pretty certain to be a clone. Only then, I'd send a Private Message (the group allows this) to Erik with photos, so that he can privately confirm if you have a clone. The more publicity that is given to clones, especially the photos, the harder it will become to determine if you have a genuine product. Regards, Martin |
Re: The Amazon Camii-Direct story continues...
This may be a valid point...we don't know who is seeing this traffic. Perhaps this information is getting back to the cloners by way of this email list. It would seem prudent to take this exchange off the list, and perhaps just give a summary of the outcome once it's settled. Do the moderators have the ability to delete messages from the history of the list? Thanks, Robin Midgett K4IDC On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 9:13?AM chri5k via <pattern.graft.0d=[email protected]> wrote: So now you are going to help the cloners refine their clones? Or validate their latest clone passes Erik checking for clones? |
Re: Excel macro to convert TinySA CSV files to WWB and IAS on Mac OS
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OK!
So I understand this feature is just for the Ultra model... |
Re: Excel macro to convert TinySA CSV files to WWB and IAS on Mac OS
#TinySA-App
#csv
On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 06:19 AM, Maik wrote:
By the way I will use the third party Macros or make it by my own, but it would be asesome modifiying the csv output with the TinySA app. I don't know how difficult it would be...This explains I modified the tinySA CSV output format written to the SD card, not the output of the tinySA-App ? -- Designer of the tinySA For more info go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/ |
Re: The Amazon Camii-Direct story continues...
So now you are going to help the cloners refine their clones? Or validate their latest clone passes Erik checking for clones?
Cemil-Direct is not an authorized vendor. They will never have a genuine product unless they buy it from an authorized vendor. Somehow I don't think this would be helpful to Erik. |
Re: The Amazon Camii-Direct story continues...
R & L definitely sells the real thing - NOT a clone. I have purchased the NanoVNA H4, original TiinySA and TinySA Ultra from R & L, as well as other products. None of them were clones. I am more than happy with their service and what they sell. Zack W9SZ On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 8:51?AM Richard B. Emerson <pavilion@...> wrote: The setup: I bought a TinySA Ultra from Camii-Direct (earlier mis-spelled as Camil-Direct) for $165.? I did a f/w update, got a black screen, survived that, and failed test 10. Erik asked for a photo of the full case, and said the unit was a clone. I sent it back to Amazon, got a refund, and end of story. I thought...? |
The Amazon Camii-Direct story continues...
The setup: I bought a TinySA Ultra from Camii-Direct (earlier mis-spelled as Camil-Direct) for $165.? I did a f/w update, got a black screen, survived that, and failed test 10. Erik asked for a photo of the full case, and said the unit was a clone. I sent it back to Amazon, got a refund, and end of story. I thought...?
Camii-Direct contacted me:after seeing my review (quoted in their message) Seller Camii-Direct has a message for you. --- Message from seller Camii-Direct: Thank you for purchasing from our brand, Camii, on Amazon. On March 23, 2024 you left the following review of our product: ----------------------- Device ID'ed by TinySA designer as a clone The unit I received failed the self-test process. After asking about this on the TinySA wiki, the designer asked for photos of the screen and case (front and back). He identified the unit as a clone, not an authentic device.<br /><br />Anyone wanting to buy a TinySA is advised to read the TinySA wiki closely before buying a unit. ----------------------- We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience regarding your order and would like to offer you a full refund for your purchase. If you would like a full refund: please reply 'Full refund'. We hope that you give us another chance. Thank you very much. Best regards, Camii Please note ¨C sellers are not allowed to ask for a customer¡¯s personal information including email or phone number: and you are not expected to change your review due to this outreach or any potential resolution.My reply: Amazon issued a refund. The listing artwork is misleading (adult hands are larger than a TinySA Ultra). The price is $25 over going US retail (my fault for not shopping wisely). After seeing photos of the item, Erik Kaashoek, the TinySA designer, stated the item is a clone and not the real item. Richard B EmersonFine. End of story, movin' on. waiting for R&L to stop sitting on their hands and ship the TinySA Ultra I ordered (three days to process?). And then this showed up: Hello Richard, We can confirm that what we sell is an authorized genuine product. For the problems you encounter, we will conduct inventory surveys of the product. Will you accept us to re -arrange a product for you? Looking forward to your reply. Camii Customer Service TeamOK, Camii-Direct, let's see if you'll put up or shut up: I've put together the three photos the designer saw, and which lead him to say the unit is a clone. The first sign of trouble was failing the self-test process. After seeing the failed test screen, Erik asked for photos of the full case. They are what prompted him to say the unit was a clone. If you wish to send me a TinySA Ultra at no charge, I'll accept it, and ask Erik to vet it as aunthentic or not. I'll advise you according to his assessment. On a favorable outcome (valid TinySA Ultra), I'll revise my review, or at least withdraw the present critical review. Richard B EmersonAnd here are the photos: More news as it develops. Rick KC3DOO |
Re: Excel macro to convert TinySA CSV files to WWB and IAS on Mac OS
#TinySA-App
#csv
Hi again!
I just updated my Original Standard TinySA to the v1.4-142 correctly without any problem but still got the same problem that all the Sound Engineers & Technicians are you asking for... I Know a lot of people asked about it, and you are a very busy man (your work is awesome!), this is the comparsion between the tinySA csv file vs a Shure Wireless Workbench admitted one.? By the way I will use the third party Macros or make it by my own, but it would be asesome modifiying the csv output with the TinySA app. I don't know how difficult it would be... I'm just suggesting... Regards from Spain! |
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