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Re: Signal Generator Frequency Calibration #ultra

 

It will correct both input full range and output below 800Mhz and "highest accuracy mode" above 800Mhz in the same way.
Cleanest signal mode above 800MHz is less frequency resolution.
I need to update the wiki on this....
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Signal Generator Frequency Calibration #ultra

 

I would like to calibrate the output frequency for my new TinySA Ultra when in Signal Generator Mode. I am using an amateur radio Flex-6700 for a receiver which is disciplined to a GPSDO. The Flex-6700 has a panadapter which shows the output of the TinySA Ultra to be approximately 100 Hz high at a frequency of 145.0 MHz. I "think" that I see how to make frequency corrections in the Spectrum Analyzer Mode of the TinySA Ultra using the Expert menu, but I am not sure about making frequency corrections in the Signal Generator Mode.

Any advice would be appreciated!
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Re: New ULTRA FW release: improved touch defaults and marker->Ref level

 

On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 02:10 PM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
New ULTRA FW release
Version V1.3563
Thx Erik,

My build of v1.3-563-g1da836e for tinySA looks also good.

Martin


Re: New ULTRA FW release: improved touch defaults and marker->Ref level

 

All very well. I liked the new text font, it greatly improved the visualization of the number in Big Number mode.
do you consider putting the marker frequency display in big number mode?


Re: tg

 

A tracking Generator is possible to be build but not for low span and resolution. Whenever I go below 1Mhz span I see chopping of the trace even if the external source and the IF are within a few khz. I don't see this with the original. I have not had time to look at the LO output to see if it is a steady swept signal or if it is chopped /? stepped.?

John


New ULTRA FW release: improved touch defaults and marker->Ref level

 

New ULTRA FW release
Version V1.3563
Changes:
- Improve touch defaults so touch calibration is not needed after FW update
- Marker ->Ref level now sets ref level to exact level of marker

WARNING: this FW update will reset your presets and config.

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Re: New ULTRA FW release: Improved font and touch cal

 

Version 559 on my TinySA is OK. I had to do a new TOUCH calibration and also a LEVEL calibration. Everything seems to be working as it should.

I have a small request, would it be possible when adjusting the brightness of the display to have some value displayed on the display so that the brightness can be adjusted repeatably?
Thanks!
Mirek


Re: New ULTRA FW release: Improved font and touch cal

 

On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 04:08 AM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
Can you test today's new FW?
Improved touch cal
? The improved touch calibration works as expected, however as others have pointed out, updating to the new FW loses the current screen calibration so it is necessary to use the jog switch to navigate to the "CALIBRATE" screen to restore correct touch screen operation.

? Most firmware updates do not lose touch screen calibration so using the jog switch to navigate to the "CALIBRATE" screen may be unfamiliar to some users.? It's an infrequent procedure but one that tinySA and tinySA Ultra users need to learn.

Herb?


Re: New ULTRA FW release: Improved font and touch cal

 

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The problem for when the menu system not access able after a touch calibration, is most probably when the upper left corner has been clicked twice (shaking fingers, or bouncing pointing device) then the jog wheel is the only tool to recover a proper touch calibration

Kind regards

Kurt ?

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Thanks Martin


Re: New ULTRA FW release: Improved font and touch cal

 

Erik. I did the update and really had the problem with the touch, now we have to use the jog to access the menu and calibrate the touch. this is no problem for me, just letting you know.
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Another thing. now that we have a big screen, the big number mode has a lot of space left over, wouldn't it be interesting for you to take advantage of this space and include the frequency as well?


Re: New ULTRA FW release: Improved font and touch cal

 

Can you test today's new FW?
Improved touch cal
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Re: New ULTRA FW release: Improved font and touch cal

 

Thanks Martin


Re: New ULTRA FW release: Improved font and touch cal

 

I had the same issue on my tinySA with the latest FW v1.3-560-g88121a2 - my fix:

Enter the menu via jog wheel, go to CONFIG / TOUCH / TOUCH CAL and do a new touch calibration with the two snowflakes. Now the touch should work again.

Martin


Re: New ULTRA FW release: Improved font and touch cal

 

I got to access to the menu via the tinySA-app and capture window. Run succesful selftest and level cal.
But still get the same as in the above picture.


Re: New ULTRA FW release: Improved font and touch cal

 



my screen looks like with V1.3559. Can't use the menu.


Re: #ultra Touch calibration #ultra

 

You need to touch the corners in order for the cal routine to do a measurement across the entire screen.? Use a plastic tipped mechanical pencil with the lead retracted, the rounded end of a toothpick or a thin plastic stylus.? Once completed you can use your regular stylus.
You need a very sharp pen to reach the corner. It's not healthy for the touchscreen to use a sharp pen.
Yes, will be done
Thanks very much!
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Re: #tinysa Power Reading #tinysa

 

On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 10:12 AM, G8HUL wrote:
Most Pas are not 50 ohm, they are designed to give a specified power 'into* a 50 ohm load.
Jeff,
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That's right, impedance matching is necessary for sources that can only deliver a small amount of electrical power and whose power is to be passed on as comprehensively as possible. Such weak sources are, for example, antennas. With linear sources and sinks, in the best case only half of the available power is actually radiated; the efficiency is then 50 %. The other half is lost as power dissipation in the internal resistance of the source.
Electrical energy sources, e.g. a power station, but also a large PA - whether audio or high frequency - are therefore not designed for power matching, but for voltage matching (i.e. low source resistance); their nominal power would therefore be exceeded long before any (theoretical) power matching.
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Martin
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Re: Which branch to use to compile the same firmware as Erik is releasing?

 

Erik,

The build instructions will build a version "v0.1-602-gb87733e" based on the deprecated "master" branch.

The most important info to be on track with your development is to type git checkout V4.3?before running make?(to build tinySA) or TARGET=F303 make?(to build tinySA4 aka. Ultra. Funny fact - at the moment you can set TARGET to every nonempty string to get the Ultra, also TARGET=F072 builds the Ultra version, see also my ).

BUT this will give a different version name "v1.2-658-g65f6118" (the g65f6118 correctly refers to the last commit on branch V4.3, but the v1.2-656 is out of order). See also?.?

My Q'n'D fix is to do this once after cloning:
? ? git tag -d v1.3
? ? git tag -a -m v1.3 v1.3 12a96bb

This matches your versioning and gives?v1.3-558-g65f6118 (at the time of my writing, you haven't pushed your latest commit 9ebab38, which is the base for??- have you?).

EDIT: I saw your two new commits, now GitHub is in front of your download page at version?v1.3-560-g88121a2. (real work in progress)

I hope this sheds some light on the mysteries of creating your own versions.

Martin


Re: #tinysa Power Reading #tinysa

 

The reason is that a HT has in most cases not a true 50R output impedance.
So if you connect the HT output to a load you have reflections that can bring very big errors to the measurement.
That is not the case. Most Pas are not 50ohm, they are designed to give a specified power 'into* a 50 ohm load.
The o/p impedance of the PA has no effect on any reflections from the load, that is entirely dependent on how well the load matches the transmission line.
The only time the PA impedances comes into play is what happened to any power that is reflected from the load that arrives back at the PA.

73
Jeff G8HUL


Re: tg

 



For the Ultra (which also has an LO output) its more complex, I will have to update the wiki.
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