On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 10:58 PM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
Can you test beta v1.1-51
Looks good. Spurs are gone. Thank you for all your great work!
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Erik, ? I'm having the following issue after loading beta v1.1-51: 1.??Beta v1.1-51 successfully loaded. 2.? tinySA connected to TinySA-App 3.? Run Selftest? 4. Self test successfully completes with no errors. 5. TinySA-App USB connection dropped after completion of Self test and I cannot reconnect. I don't recall previous FW versions dropping the USB connection after running a self-test as I was always able to capture the self-test screen using TinySA-App. - Herb
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Re: What to do when you think you bought a tinySA clone.
Thanks, Erik. I know what to look for now. ? Thanks, Brian D ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Erik Kaashoek
Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 6:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tinysa] What to do when you think you bought a tinySA clone. ? On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 06:01 AM, Brian Donaldson wrote: What is the color of a legitimate TinySA PCB? Its easier to look at the box, The inside of the box of the clone is made from foam:?
The legitimate packaging box looks like this:?
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Re: What to do when you think you bought a tinySA clone.
On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 06:01 AM, Brian Donaldson wrote:
What is the color of a legitimate TinySA PCB?
Its easier to look at the box, The inside of the box of the clone is made from foam:? The legitimate packaging box looks like this:? ? --
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Re: What to do when you think you bought a tinySA clone.
Thanks Eric for that info. I just ordered one and it should be here in a couple of days. Are there any comparison photos of valid vs clone TinySA? I searched the internet but could not find any. What is the color of a legitimate TinySA PCB? ? Thanks, Brian D KF6BL ?
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Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2020 11:27 PM
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Subject: [tinysa] What to do when you think you bought a tinySA clone. ? Open the tinySA case by removing the 4 screws
If the PCB is green, there are no shields on the PCB and the print on the PCB says "tinySA v0.4" you have a clone
Print you purchase details and put the tinySA PCB showing the "tinySA v0.4" text on the printout so the purchase details are still visible.
Make a photo of the purchase details printout with the PCB and a photo of the box with all the accessories of the tinySA and send these photos in a private reply to this message.
We will formally confirm in reply the product you bought is a clone and it is violating our trademark? so you can go back to your supplier and request a refund.
We will? contact the supplier using your purchase as evidence and request them to stop selling products that violate our trademark.
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Can you test beta v1.1-51 and see if the spurs during selftest are gone? --
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On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 08:08 PM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
Can you check if v1.1-50 also has this problem.
Yep, same issue.
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Please add me to the beta testing list.?
Many thanks,
Andy M0VVA
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v1.1-49 Test #3 Stopband fails 50/50 There are visible spikes at 19 and 21 MHz. Sometimes the left spike goes beyond threshold and test fails. There are no visible spikes with stable fw, test is always Ok. 
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What to do when you think you bought a tinySA clone.
- If selftest 7 and 8 fail you may have a clone.
- If the serial number at the back of your tinySA starts with "AD" you have a clone. Complain and get a refund.
- If the text next to the high input connector is "HICH" you have a clone. Complain and get a refund
- If the FW version is v1.1-66 you have a clone. Complain and get a refund
Otherwise, open the tinySA case by removing the 4 screws If the PCB is green, there are no shields on the PCB and the print on the PCB says "tinySA v0.4" you have a clone Otherwise submit a 3 photos
- The failing self test
- The tinySA back cover sticker
- The component side of the PCB
These photos? will help us to identify a clone.
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Here is ok to report bugs --
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Re: Video of selftest fail of bad clone
Soon will be plenty of clones and "watch and be warned" is not enough as most people will watch after having had problems with their purchase.
You can do two things:
1) Do nothing else and only the most expert buyers will get a refund. The cloners will keep on selling more and more clones.
2) Be the most expert cheated buyer and give the buyers all the tools to make an efficacious request of refund at a level of copy/paste, including a compact letter in jpg format with your company name and logo where you, "the original manufactureer and owner of the tinySA name and logo" declare that devices with "the following problems..." cannot be used for their original purphose and are illegal copies using tinySa name, logo and case design illegally to deceive buyers.
If you follow the second way most of the buyers will get a full refund (and buy again from you) and you probably will be able to force the copy makers to change name and logo so that buyers can recognize the difference between original and copies.
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On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 04:39 PM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
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Watch and be warned!
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Hi Erik and everyone. Where is the proper place to report bugs and issues for the beta fw, here or on github? Regards
Andrey
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Re: New feature soon to be released; Quick menu
Nice work Erik!
Thank you for all of the continued firmware improvements you¡¯re making.
John L.
AA7US
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Re: New feature soon to be released; Quick menu
I love the quick menus! Nice work Erik! 73 -Jim NU0C On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 07:46:12 -0800 "Erik Kaashoek" <erik@...> wrote: Here a short video demonstrating the new Quick Menu feature available in (soon to be released) firmware release v1.1-49 or later
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Please include me on your list.?
Thanks,
On 12/6/2020 3:43 AM, Erik Kaashoek
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Now the FW has become more stable I'd like to set up a beta test
channel where I can announce early releases of new functionality
without running the risk of upsetting new users.
The beta FW will be made available in the beta folder inside the
regular FW folder at:?
Reply to this message if you want to be notified when new beta
releases are available and are willing to try these beta releases.
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New feature soon to be released; Quick menu
Here a short video demonstrating the new Quick Menu feature available in (soon to be released) firmware release v1.1-49 or later --
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Video of selftest fail of bad clone
? Watch and be warned!
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Great story! ?Next month¡¯s meeting of the London Amateur Radio Club is all about solving interference. ?May I use your story, with proper attribution of course?! Dave
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On Dec 11, 2020, at 10:05, Larry Macionski via groups.io <am_fm_radio@...> wrote:
?To All the Beta Testers and ERIK-
Thanks for all the research, testing and feedback. You have my full support. As soon as the TinySA came out I bought one, and used it to track some RFI that we found moved up and down the band (2Meters) effecting an Amateur repeater on a fixed frequency. More below.
In the upcoming weeks and month of Beta Testing and refinement, I am sure the overall product will improve, beyond my expectations. Thank you for your dedication and volunteering. One comment.. When a "stable- approved" firmware version is good enough for the average Joe- please let us know it's OK to upgrade. Perhaps that version would also match the "users" manual so that one upgrading to that firmware would be confident that it works and the "manual" can be refereed to at a high confidence level.
Back to the RFI - Since the repeater duplexers and receiver band-pass limited the RFI to only look as if intermittent, we found the TinySA showed a wide signal moving up and down the band. Because it was now a visual constant signal we tracked it a few blocks... to guess what??
A BIKER BAR - with a reputation, that the local police had cleaned up a few years ago but still, not the place to take your mother for tea. even Long Island Iced Tea..? Well, alone one afternoon , I entered and spoke to the bar tender.. explained why I was there..?
Once inside it was easy to find the culprit.. A neon tube beer sign about 3ft by 2ft..The bar tender told me "sometimes it flashes" and the beer distributor promised a replacement as it distracted those playing pool nearby.? Well, as soon as he saw the TinySA display and unplugging it, the signal disappeared. He said- I'll keep it off telling the distributor, you want it on, bring me a new sign.. So we had a beer and all is well since.
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Jim Shorney