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Re: New to the group

 

Well, you have to keep something to hold the bench down!

Roy
WA0YMH

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020, 3:09 PM waltcates <cateswa@...> wrote:
Stephen,

In the 70's through the 90's the 141T was a mainstay in my lab. After retirement my interest shifted from design and development to repair and writing maintenance manuals. Now at nearly 78 I have to call my son over if I want to move the 141. The tinySA and the TABPRO S takes up less space in the lab.

As for noise thresholds, phase jitter and the like, I really don't care. I am working with vintage systems that were well designed in thier time. I don't care or even promote mass improvement modifications. So far, with the tinySA, I have investigated several different sideband generator schemes, xtal filters and swept 6MHz and 1650KHz IF's and the tiny has provided all the information I needed.

Now the only piece of vintage test equipment I have left in the lab is a URM25D. It was Navy surplus when I bought it in 1968. It has a QA date stamp on a sub chassis SEP-59. It will never leave the lab.?

?Walt Cates, WD0GOF
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The root of most anger is FEAR.




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Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 12:47 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [tinysa] New to the group
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Re: New to the group

 

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Stephen,

In the 70's through the 90's the 141T was a mainstay in my lab. After retirement my interest shifted from design and development to repair and writing maintenance manuals. Now at nearly 78 I have to call my son over if I want to move the 141. The tinySA and the TABPRO S takes up less space in the lab.

As for noise thresholds, phase jitter and the like, I really don't care. I am working with vintage systems that were well designed in thier time. I don't care or even promote mass improvement modifications. So far, with the tinySA, I have investigated several different sideband generator schemes, xtal filters and swept 6MHz and 1650KHz IF's and the tiny has provided all the information I needed.

Now the only piece of vintage test equipment I have left in the lab is a URM25D. It was Navy surplus when I bought it in 1968. It has a QA date stamp on a sub chassis SEP-59. It will never leave the lab.?

?Walt Cates, WD0GOF
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The root of most anger is FEAR.




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Stephen Laurence <Gaslaurence@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2020 12:47 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [tinysa] New to the group
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Re: Delay due to damage

 

Hello Clive,

Thank you for your reply.
The tracking on shows my tinysa should have arrived today by 8 p.m.
It is exactly 8 p.m. and no sign.
Tomorrow?I intend to contact Amazon about dexuan510 and find out ware I stand.

73 Phil G3SES

On Tue, 22 Sep 2020 at 19:55, G7SVI <g7svi@...> wrote:
I ordered direct from Maggie on AliBaba with trade assurance
Well packaged and arrived without any problems
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Clive - G7SVI


Re: Delay due to damage

 

I ordered direct from Maggie on AliBaba with trade assurance
Well packaged and arrived without any problems
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Clive - G7SVI


Phase noise of tinySA compared to Rigol DSA815

 

After seeing this video

I wanted to compare the phase noise of the Rigol DSA815 with the tinySA
In the Rigol video the phase noise is measured at 10kHz distance and is about -85dBc/Hz
How about the tinySA?
Well, it is a bit worse, but not much: -83dBc/Hz


Re: New to the group

 

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 06:14 PM, waltcates wrote:
Good morning?group,
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I got my tinySA three days ago. I have downloaded tinysa.exe and paired my tinySA to a TAB PRO S tablet. I was guided to this site in a discussion about the tiny on another site. I got the tiny as a replacement for my 60-year-old HP141 that died again.....

Dear Walt,

yes, one of the reasons for me getting the Tinysa is, not only can I put it in my pocket/ suitcase/ etc, as well as walk around with it to trace qrm, but I think I am going to have to dispatch my HP141 anslysers - I have three of them with four different plugins, covering the whole available frequency range. I think the single most useful one is the 0-1.1ghz one, as it did not take too long to warm up and settle, and it was almost as easy to use as the 0-110mhz plug-in. AND I have not used them for over 5 years, so I would probably have to swap plugins and get the maintenance manual out. Nevertheless, I learned a lot from them.

The only problem is looking at close-in signals, such as ssb intermodulation and phase noise. To do this, even the HP141 0-110mhz plug-in needed to warm up before continuous retuning was required. Also, the 1-3ghz area is quite important (cellphones, wifi, microwave oven leakage etc) but I have got a Deepace KC 901s which can pass off as a handheld spectrum analyser as well as being a scalar network analyser (0-3ghz). The most recent version with 0-6ghz, vector capability and 1khz rbw is ?1600, so no chance to upgrade for me, and still probably not too effective to measure phase noise.

?HOWEVER, I have decided that when I need to do such work, I will have to spark up a pc and a sdr dongle. I have a rsp1 which I have got a rbw down to 50hz. The only problem is you need as much bench space and setting up as the HP141 needed. On the plus side, I can get rid of three boat-anchors.

steve L G7PSZ
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Re: New tinySA control program for Windows

 

I tried V1.0.179 and was able to get a trace. Excellent work, Cathy, Erik, Herb et al!


Re: New tinySA control program for Windows

 

Hi Erik, no reason in particular, I was trying all the options to see if I could get something to give me a trace.


Re: Detecting a noise source

 

Hmmm, a difficult question to answer.

It is in the (relatively) new wife¡¯s house, where I do not have any of my ham gear (I wonder why?). I did bring up a Clansman 320 backpack radio (40 year old hf military transceiver) a while ago but could not receive anything. I presumed it was the solar panels or the data over phone line, as it worked fine in the middle of a field. I did not have the TinySA then (or the nanovna, which can be used as a sort of spectrum analyzer).
Eventually we will move into my house, but probably without the reclining chair but with the Mrs (more use than a reclining chair, but more expensive to run). The problem is that the PSU is on the whole time (for the chair, not the Mrs, although installing an on-off switch, or at least a mute button is an interesting project to work on).

Steve L. G7PSZ


Re: Detecting a noise source

 

Steve--
Did you sell the ham gear or the reclining chair??? Inquiring minds would like to know...


Re: Message for Kurt Poulsen

 

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UPS

You might refer to another activity off mine and not the 40 minutes video in Danish.

The report/user guide in Dansk it being published in the Danish HAM Magazine OZ in few days and then I can start doing an English version.

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Fra: [email protected] <[email protected]> P? vegne af vk6eh@...
Sendt: 22. september 2020 00:58
Til: [email protected]
Emne: [tinysa] Message for Kurt Poulsen

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Hi Kurt, Hope this finds you well.
With regard to the User Guide you produced for your presentation about TinySA in Danish language.
I think you indicated you may produce a copy in english, forgive me if I missed it but would be very interested in getting a copy.
I have read several of your documents and I'm sure it will be a very handy asset for the shack.

Thanks in advance.
Wayne
VK6EH


Re: Message for Kurt Poulsen

 

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Hi Wayne

I have fully occupied creating calibration kit files for the SAA-2N for both VNA-QT and NanoVNA-saver so have not found time yest
It is also a major job to sound dubbing a live video to fit in length. There has also been added new features I would like to add so new recording might also take place ?????

Anyway have a look on the Wiki as Erik has created quite a lot small video¡¯s which are very informative and in English with a Dutch touch ?

Kind regards

Kurt

Fra: [email protected] <[email protected]> P? vegne af vk6eh@...
Sendt: 22. september 2020 00:58
Til: [email protected]
Emne: [tinysa] Message for Kurt Poulsen

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Hi Kurt, Hope this finds you well.
With regard to the User Guide you produced for your presentation about TinySA in Danish language.
I think you indicated you may produce a copy in english, forgive me if I missed it but would be very interested in getting a copy.
I have read several of your documents and I'm sure it will be a very handy asset for the shack.

Thanks in advance.
Wayne
VK6EH


Re: New tinySA control program for Windows

 

On Tue, Sep 22, 2020 at 12:58 PM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
As stated the conversion is not yet completed
Hi Erik,

Ah OK, understood, please keep up the good work.

Regards,

Martin


Re: New tinySA control program for Windows

 

As stated the conversion is not yet completed


Re: New tinySA control program for Windows

 

I'm a bit confused with respect to scattering parameters S11 and S21 being shown on the display, when being used as a SA.

Regards,

Martin


File /tinySA-app/tinySA-App.exe uploaded #file-notice

[email protected] Notification
 

The following files have been uploaded to the Files area of the [email protected] group.

By: Erik Kaashoek

Description:
This is the nanoVNA-app adapted for use with the tinySA. It should also still be compatible with the nanoVNA The conversion is not finished yet so co-existence with nanoVNA-app.exe may cause problems with the ini file No warranties!!!!!!


Re: Detecting a noise source

 

You have an excellent tool to trace it.

Set the span to scan ( some of) the interference frequencies, eg 3-14mhz.

Put the telescopic aerial on the lower sma socket.

Extend the aerial and see the noise spikes on the screen, then walk around the house/ garden/ street, observing the amplitude of the noise spikes. ?As you get nearer and the spikes get larger, collapse the aerial down a bit. Eventually you might get to within a few feet.

I identified a switch mode psu in the house which powered an electric reclining chair within minutes this way - one if the first uses of the device. It is possible to use handheld directional aerials ( or a mw ferrite rod aerial from sn old aerial) so that you can triagulate the source if distantly generated noise.

On the wiki for the SA, you will find info on using an external lna (low noise amplifier) to increase sensitivity so as to be able to detect more distant noise sources. I am in the process of making one, which I will probably velcro to the sa case.

Steve L. G7PSZ


Re: New tinySA control program for Windows

 

Here are my settings.
TinySA is in LOW mode !!!!!!!


Re: New tinySA control program for Windows

 

On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 08:57 PM, stefan baartman wrote:
Any possibility we have different version devices?
Yes. The latest build is V1.0-91 and you are running V1.0-61
Pleas upgrade.
Read the wiki for guidance how to upgrade


Message for Kurt Poulsen

 

Hi Kurt, Hope this finds you well.
With regard to the User Guide you produced for your presentation about TinySA in Danish language.
I think you indicated you may produce a copy in english, forgive me if I missed it but would be very interested in getting a copy.
I have read several of your documents and I'm sure it will be a very handy asset for the shack.

Thanks in advance.
Wayne
VK6EH