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Re: tinySA Ultra firmware upgrade #ultra

 

Have a look in the wiki:


OK, looking more attentively into the above link I wound something
ready to go for Windows and I am willing to try this one:


Again, there is no a single zipped file for download (usually it is one).
I am sorry, I am not a SW person. I have a hard time to figure out
what exactly I have to download and what is more important -?
what executable to run?


Re: tinySA Ultra firmware upgrade #ultra

 

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 04:37 PM, Rudi wrote:
Have a look in the wiki:
Yes, I did check the suggested link.
My first impression was: Yes, this is exactly what I want.
However using a control over Serial Link requires not only a Python script but
some additional SW components:
matplotlib
pillow
pyserial
Well, of course I don't have any of these extra components.
I have no idea where to get them.
And what is "no go" in my case - I don't want to install them.??
So, very sad story but unfortunately this option is not for me.


Re: tinySA Ultra firmware upgrade #ultra

 

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 08:37 PM, Clyde Lambert wrote:
All your doing is crying about it and wasting everyone's time.
Hello Clyde,

You are in this group since about 2 years and 4 month.
I am in this group since about 2 years and 9 month.

The tinySA software was steadily improved by Erik in this time.
So, all the basics of a low cost Spectrum Analyser are covered after that time.

By the way Erik gives also a lot of support help in case of questions.

Now special wishes for software additions came up,
and Erik asked for help in this special case.

To shout "All your doing is crying about it and wasting everyone's time."
is very unfair in my opinion.

Rudi DL5FA


Re: tinySA Ultra firmware upgrade #ultra

 

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 09:09 PM, <vitaliy_kh@...> wrote:
What is tinySA app and where it is?
Hello Vitaliy,

Have a look in the wiki:


73, Rudi DL5FA


Re: #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App

 

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 02:36 PM, hwalker wrote:
/g/tinysa/files/WINE/USB%20port%20mapping%20under%20Wine.pdf
Thanx Herb

Let's see, when the SA arrives


Re: tinySA Ultra firmware upgrade #ultra

 

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 02:53 PM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:
Have you tried upgrading using tinySA-App?
What is tinySA app and where it is?
I have not seen any mention for tinySA app.
Maybe I missed it.

I just tried again DFU bat file. Now the device is clearly connected in DFU mode.
However DFU Utility still is not happy.



Re: tinySA Ultra firmware upgrade #ultra

 

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 03:37 PM, Clyde Lambert wrote:
You have been given a heck of a lot of help, but will not use it.
No, I am trying to follow instructions but I am afraid to destroy my current setup.
As I said, my PC runs a lot of design tools which are very sensitive to the environment.
If anything bad happens it will take me few days to fix all this mess.
Thanks to current state of Windows it takes a lot of time to roll back to a previous state.
Plus rolling back not always restores to exact previous state.

My latest achievement is - tinySA is listed as STM Device in DFU Mode:?




However running?DFU_LOAD_BIN.bat file still is not happy:




Now what is wrong with this picture?
What I doing wrong now?

"All your doing is crying about it and wasting everyone's time."
Talking about washing everyone's time do you want to know how
many hours I spent on digging into this issue?
Again, updating firmware these days must be done in one mouse click.
Do you agree with this?
Instead it requires a lot of effort.


Re: tinySA Ultra firmware upgrade #ultra

 

I know there are many who have and are trying to help you, want to say this, but do not want to upset you, but here goes.
Obviously, you do not want to upgrade your TinySA, or at least want someone else to do it for you.
You have been given a heck of a lot of help, but will not use it.
Being that the case, your only option is to get someone you may know, that is not afraid to try something new, to do it for you.
As, no matter what anyone, in any groups, tell you, your not going to do it.
All your doing is crying about it and wasting everyone's time.
Clyde KC7BJE?


On Sat, Mar 25, 2023, 10:26 AM vitaliy_kh via <vitaliy_kh=[email protected]> wrote:
So far i am still unable to upgrade a firmware on my new tinySA Ultra device.
This task usually is very simple but in this specific case it is not.
Actually this is very first time during many years I cannot do something
what should be very simple and trivial.
All the suggestions on Wiki and etc. required to collect manually many different
SW components and/or modifications to the sensitive system settings.
I my case this is no go.
My PC is running a lot of different design tools and the setup is very sensitive
to any system modifications and interference with different drivers.
The least what I want - is to destroy my current setup. This will be a disaster.
Unfortunately I don't have any other PC around for different exercising.

So, what is my option(s) to upgrade my device? It must be very safe.
Or I have to forget about upgrading the device?

I hope, finally somebody will provide a very constructive instruction how
to upgrade a firmware on the tinySA Ultra without destroying or compromising
my current PC setup. Ideally, I would like to download a single zipped file
which will contain everything what is needed for this simple tas

Thank you in advance,

- Vitaliy


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Re: tinySA Ultra firmware upgrade #ultra

 

Vitality
Have you tried upgrading using tinySA-App?

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For more info on the tinySA go to https://tinysa.org/wiki/


Re: TinySA Ultra Menu-Tree Chart pdf file in landscape mode

 

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Hi Kurt,

Here are the things I found in your latest (and excellent) menu tree. I didn't go over the entire document, but I think I covered all the new functionality that was added. I hope I didn't get too picky. Your work is top-notch - to match the device itself!

Best regards, Terry

On 3/24/2023 4:27 PM, Kurt Poulsen wrote:

Hi Terry

I am attaching the new version with new pages for MULTI BAND and more on LEVEL triggering. Several pages has been updated as the original pages derived form the WiKi was incorrectly described,

I hope you find time to find lingual bugs once again,

Kind regards

Kurt




Re: tinySA Ultra firmware upgrade #ultra

 

So far i am still unable to upgrade a firmware on my new tinySA Ultra device.
This task usually is very simple but in this specific case it is not.
Actually this is very first time during many years I cannot do something
what should be very simple and trivial.
All the suggestions on Wiki and etc. required to collect manually many different
SW components and/or modifications to the sensitive system settings.
I my case this is no go.
My PC is running a lot of different design tools and the setup is very sensitive
to any system modifications and interference with different drivers.
The least what I want - is to destroy my current setup. This will be a disaster.
Unfortunately I don't have any other PC around for different exercising.

So, what is my option(s) to upgrade my device? It must be very safe.
Or I have to forget about upgrading the device?

I hope, finally somebody will provide a very constructive instruction how
to upgrade a firmware on the tinySA Ultra without destroying or compromising
my current PC setup. Ideally, I would like to download a single zipped file
which will contain everything what is needed for this simple tas

Thank you in advance,

- Vitaliy


Re: #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App

 

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 06:10 AM, Carsten F (OZ1FTG) wrote:

Do i need to install the STM Drivers ??

Or will linux handle the serial IO for wine ??

One of the group's users uploaded this document?/g/tinysa/files/WINE/USB%20port%20mapping%20under%20Wine.pdf which may answer your questions.? However you may find, per my previous message, that installing a PC application is not that important.? You might wait until you receive your TinySA Ultra before you decide.

Herb


Re: New FW release: Added option for fixed 10 gridlines

 

The fixed 10 grid lines is a very useful addition, Erik - thank you! - Otto Schellin


Re: #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App

 

On Sat, Mar 25, 2023 at 05:45 AM, Carsten F (OZ1FTG) wrote:
I wish i have known that two days ago.
Then i would prob have looked for another "mini SA" with native linux support.
? ?Since you purchased the TinySA Ultra model you may find that you have little use for a Linux PC application.? You can save data and screenshots to its SanDisk and transfer that data to your Linux PC.? I primarily use TinySA-App for updating my FW instead of using dfu-util (Windows, Linux and Mac). I also use it for sending commands to the TinySA-Ultra but you can do the same thing using a native Linux terminal application.

?The TinySA-Ultra has a very nice 4" color display, so a PC application is not as important as when purchasing a black box spectrum analyzer.? At $125, you would have had a hard time finding another "miniSA" that matched its technical specifications and developer support at even twice the price.

? Depending on your intended use, the TinySA Ultra may turn out to exceed your expectations without a native Linux application.

Herb


Re: #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App

 

Do i need to install the STM Drivers ??

Or will linux handle the serial IO for wine ??


Re: #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App

 

I just installed Wine 8 ....


Re: #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App

 

Herb
I wish i have known that two days ago.
Then i would prob have looked for another "mini SA" with native linux support.

Well ... That one is on me, for not doing my homework.

Thanx for the input.

Carsten


Re: #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App

 

Carsten,
? TinySA-saver was an early modification of NanoVNA-App by Erik to give both Linux and Windows users a way to save data and capture screenshots.? For the most part, it has been depreciated by TinySA-App which gives you much more control over the tinySA (Ultra) and looks like a true spectrum analyzer application.? If you can get TinySA-App running in Wine, you will have a much better user experience.

Herb


Re: #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App #firmware-build #software #TinySA-App

 

I just redid my steps, and took a few notes:

This is on a "Clean reinstalled Debian 11" running in VirtualBox (Vbox)

1: Install git + pip
sudo apt install git python3-pip

2: Get tinysa-saver from Erik's git.
git clone https://github.com/erikkaashoek/tinysa-saver

3: In the file Calibration.py , find all ocurrences of np.complex( , and replace with complex(??
You can use an editor , or the sed command below.

cd tinysa-saver/
cd TinySASaver/

You can skip all the grep commands below , they were just for "proff".

Check for #of occurences (we have 21)
deb11-vb:~/tinysa-saver/TinySASaver$ grep "np.complex(" Calibration.py? | wc
???? 21???? 183??? 1439

*** This is the important comand: Replace all occurences of np.complex( with complex(??? ... In the file Calibration.py
deb11-vb:~/tinysa-saver/TinySASaver$ sed -i 's/np.complex(/complex(/g' Calibration.py

No more np.complex( in the file
deb11-vb:~/tinysa-saver/TinySASaver$ grep "np.complex(" Calibration.py? | wc
????? 0?????? 0?????? 0

But 21 occurences of complex( in the file? .... seems good to me.
deb11-vb:~/tinysa-saver/TinySASaver$ grep "complex(" Calibration.py? | wc
???? 21???? 183??? 1376

Return back to the top-level dir.
cd ..

Install the program with pip
python3 -m pip install .

The program is now installed in ~/.local/bin


But i still got an error , when trying to start the program:

deb11-vb:~/.local/bin$ ./TinySASaver
TinySASaver 0.2.2
Copyright (C) 2019 Rune B. Broberg
This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This program is licensed under the GNU General Public License version 3

See https://github.com/erikkaashoek/tinysa-saver for further details
qt.qpa.plugin: Could not load the Qt platform plugin "xcb" in "" even though it was found.
This application failed to start because no Qt platform plugin could be initialized. Reinstalling the application may fix this problem.

Available platform plugins are: eglfs, linuxfb, minimal, minimalegl, offscreen, vnc, wayland-egl, wayland, wayland-xcomposite-egl, wayland-xcomposite-glx, webgl, xcb.

Aborted


This thread gave me a solution:
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59809703/could-not-load-the-qt-platform-plugin-xcb-in-even-though-it-was-found

I then installed this
sudo apt-get install python3-pyqt5


And now trying again:
deb11-vb:~/.local/bin$ ./TinySASaver

It started


During the process i alsi installed this one (before doing the : sudo apt-get install python3-pyqt5) but it didn't work after that install, and i doubt it's needed to do the below.
sudo apt-get install libxcb-xinerama0


Carsten