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Philip,
I assume you did see the "where to buy" page on the wiki


and here you can see how the tinySA sold directly from Hugen are packaged


The seller Dexuan is unknown to me.

I started adding the serial over USB command list (console commands) to the wiki

Any feedback if this information is sufficient for someone that wants to use this?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 02:17 PM, Ham Radio wrote:

I would fix it myself if I had the PMWiki password. :-)

Just send the content to me and I will add it.
Don't bother about formatting

Thanks for the info, Herb.

Will try the serial interface. ?

Link of tinySA.org. ?

I would fix it myself if I had the PMWiki password. :-)

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73, Bernie, VE3FWF
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On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 08:46 AM, Scott hunter wrote:

..is it minus 10 dbm or a normal 10 dbm which is 10 milli watts thanks

+10dBm

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 08:45 AM, Brent DeWitt wrote:

Will the SA firmware run correctly if it doesn't see the display and touch input??

The display should not be a problem but you may have to solder some resistors to get the X/Y touch input in the right state (e.g. not touched)
Never has been tested

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 08:36 AM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 08:11 AM, hwalker wrote:

Maybe as Igor suggested the behavior after exiting the 'measure' menu should be to return to the previous user set-up.

This can be implemented but you will also lose any change in setting you did after starting with the measurement so that is not perfect.?
The other alternative is to only do a limited deactivation of the measure setup. Which still may be difficult to understand.
How do other SA deal with this?

Come to think of it after completing automated measurements on a HP8568 I had to push the <instr preset> button to return to normal operations.? That is actually pretty much what you are doing now.? I also stored my settings in a register on the HP8568 prior to running an automated measurement so that I could recall them.

Probably the primary issue was lack of the 'back' button for exiting the measure menu.

?-Herb

I'm a bit too lazy to pull out the soldering iron, so I'll ask:? Will the SA firmware run correctly if it doesn't see the display and touch input?? I'm thinking about flying one under a hex-copter and every gram counts.

Thanks!
Brent AB1LF

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 08:11 AM, hwalker wrote:

Maybe as Igor suggested the behavior after exiting the 'measure' menu should be to return to the previous user set-up.

This can be implemented but you will also lose any change in setting you did after starting with the measurement so that is not perfect.?
The other alternative is to only do a limited deactivation of the measure setup. Which still may be difficult to understand.
How do other SA deal with this?

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 03:06 PM, Erik Kaashoek wrote:

An "official" reseller is expected to start on amazon, ebay and others, but I have no info yet which store name they will use

Hi Erik,

I thought that was the case, but I didn't want to suggest an 'unofficial' suppler to others who were interested in buying one, as the development team(s) would possibly suffer as a result.

Regards,

Martin

Indeed!
I added too much measure menu options so the back key is no longer visible
Will be corrected in next FW

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 07:01 AM, Igor Jobim wrote:

Erik.

I have the frequency set to start 0 and stop 200Mhz.

If I select "measure" incorrectly, any of the available options will not allow me to return without disturbing the setup.

Even the "off" option returns the setup as default (0 - 350Mhz).

v1.0.86

Erik,
? Igor is correct.? If you accidently select the measure menu there is no way to back out of it without losing your settings.? There should either be a 'back' button (intuitive) or selecting the 'OFF' button should act as a 'back' button (not as intuitive) that sends you up one menu level without loosing your settings.

? I usually store my current set-up in one of the four store locations before using the measure menu so that I can re-load it after a 'measure' operation, since I know exiting the 'measure' menu defaults to start-up settings.? Maybe as Igor suggested the behavior after exiting the 'measure' menu should be to return to the previous user set-up.

- Herb

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 07:14 AM, Karl Heinz Kremer - K5KHK wrote:

It lists the maximum input power as 10dBm - anything more and you will likely fry it. For a "good" reading, I try to keep the input signal below -30dBm

This is with 0dB internal attenuation. If you increase attenuation these numbers can go up with the attenuation but do not fry the internal attenuator.?
With 30dB attenuation the tinySA will survive a +30dBm signal for a couple of seconds.?
With attenuation on automatic you are perfectly safe and you can expect good measurements of you stay below +5dBm
But to give the attenuation some spare I suggest to always stay below 0dBm at the input. This will allow you to use the internal attenuation most effective

An "official" reseller is expected to start on amazon, ebay and others, but I have no info yet which store name they will use

Hi All,

These have been listed on Amazon UK.



Sold by?Elikliv-EU and?

Are these a new 'official' supplier or simply a reseller ?

Regards,

Martin

On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 06:36 AM, Ham Radio wrote:

Thanks Herb. ?A bit confusing for the first time user.

I just learned that you can use a serial terminal to connect with TinySA. ?Not sure if you need to be in regular mode ?or ?DFU mode to do that function and what speed to set the COMM port. ?

The PC Control description on TinySA.org needs to be expanded a bit more to describe the serial communication feature and perhaps, ?a link to the list of shell commands.

Bernie,
? A lot of tinySA users have prior familiarity with the NanoVNA which uses the same DFU upgrade procedure.? The DFU mode can only be used for upgrading.? To use the tinySA from a serial terminal you have to exit from the DFU mode and return to normal USB mode.? USB always transfers at the fastest speed rated for the selected port so speed settings in the serial terminal are not applicable.

?To get a list of the available shell commands just type 'help' from the serial terminal.

- Herb