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Hello, folks! We are back.
Maybe you weren't expecting this email, but here it is. This group is back as a web resource, safe from whatever Yahoo! plans to do with the content. I hope it continues to help you. I intend to bring some of the conversations happening on social media into this group, in part to make it easier to expand in longer form on the ideas and in part to make them easier for you to follow and participate. You don't need to have been there when the conversation happened. I encourage you to do the same. I also intend to revive this group as a resource for the confused. If you need help with evolutionary design and/or TDD, then you can trust the answers here more than you can trust the answers "out there". The people here who want to answer you likely have more experience and care more about your success. At least I'd like to attract more of those people here. So there it is! I apologize for the momentary spike in messages as you adjust your email filters. I have to do the same. Enjoy! -- J. B. (Joe) Rainsberger :: :: :: Teaching evolutionary design and TDD since 2002 |
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Awesome.? I sent a new thread to the group about tdd diagrams.? Was it received? On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 10:30 J. B. Rainsberger <me@...> wrote: Hello, folks! We are back. --
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I don't see a diagram, just the conversation about the logo. brought to you by the letters A, V, and I and the number 47 On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 12:27 PM Roy Osherove <roy@...> wrote:
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On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:27 AM Roy Osherove <roy@...> wrote: ?
Maybe. If you sent it to the Yahoo! group, then no. Please try again--at least until we figure out the transition. :) I want to see it! J. B. (Joe) Rainsberger :: :: :: |
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Is this the diagram you wanted to share? I would recommend making a box which is part of the flow rather than some external dotted lines. For example, maybe the box should read, " Apply SOLID principles" as part of the refactoring, and then before the next failing test have something like, "design the contract" I think the community needs more explicit direction on the design being done in those phases. On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 16:44 J. B. Rainsberger <jbrains762@...> wrote:
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Yup! On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 6:05 AM Avi Kessner <akessner@...> wrote:
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I also like the diagram in GOOS, page 42, where the authors add an additional step, right after "write a failing test": "Make the diagnostics clear." On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 4:11 AM Roy Osherove <roy@...> wrote:
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