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Good, realistic examples are likely more helpful that explicit instructions. Different tactics, strategies and principles are more useful in different contexts for teams with different

I would like to amplify Avi's comment below. I have noticed something when programmers try to practise TDD: they don't seem to learn how to refactor. I don't mean to state this so harshly, but it

Is this the diagram you wanted to share? https://osherove.com/blog/2019/11/12/an-updated-diagram-of-the-tdd-process-from-the-upcoming-3rd-edition-of-art-of-unit-testing I would recommend making a

Maybe. If you sent it to the Yahoo! group, then no. Please try again--at least until we figure out the transition. :) I want to see it! -- J. B. (Joe) Rainsberger :: https://tdd.training ::

I don't see a diagram, just the conversation about the logo. brought to you by the letters A, V, and I and the number 47

Awesome. I sent a new thread to the group about tdd diagrams. Was it received?

Hello, folks! We are back. Maybe you weren't expecting this email, but here it is. This group is back as a web resource, safe from whatever Yahoo! plans to do with the content. I hope it continues to

Hi, folks. I decided to use Nat Pryce's diagram as the logo. Feel free to continue to provide suggestions, if you like. -- J. B. (Joe) Rainsberger :: https://tdd.training ::

I vote for

I'd vote for Red, green, refactor! Fantastic! Where are the graphic designers? -- Edwin G. Castro [testdrivendevelopment] <testdrivendevelopment@...> wrote:

There can be only one :-) Red, green, refactor. In the usual loop. Cheers Mark [testdrivendevelopment], <testdrivendevelopment@...> wrote:

Hey, folks. I have a cover photo for the new group, but I need an icon that represents TDD. Something square, ideally 200px square. Any suggestions? -- J. B. (Joe) Rainsberger ::

Me too – still here ? Sent: 30 October 2019 19:50 To: testdrivendevelopment@... Subject: [TDD] Re: Owners/Moderators: Transfering this group to groups.io I too can hear you...

Hi, folks. I bet you didn't even remember that you were a member of this group! We are transferring this group to groups.io. This wil happen in the next 1-2 weeks, so if you start receiving emails

Hi all, I'm pretty certain this group was started as a feedback forum for the first TDD book written, I don't actually remember the author tho. When I look in the group archive on it seems to be

Nothing will go to groups.io until the group has been transfered.

[testdrivendevelopment] <testdrivendevelopment@...> wrote: Whoever can see this and has the authority, please invite [email protected] to this group. Thanks. -- J. B. (Joe) Rainsberger

I just now realized that I should email the owner email address directly, so I've done that. [testdrivendevelopment] <testdrivendevelopment@...> wrote:

FYI both messages came via Yahoo groups and not group.io Cheers Mark [testdrivendevelopment], <testdrivendevelopment@...> wrote:

I too can hear you... didn't know I was part of this group