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I just wanted to let everyone know about an interesting book that has a very small TAG mention. It is one of a trilogy of rail motorcar books by a man named Edmund Keilty. I have one of the others which is "Interurban Without Wires". This book is more of a history of the various motorcar producers. I don't have the book he did about doodlebugs and motorcars run by class one railroads. At any rate, I now have a copy of "The Shortline Doodlebug" which is all about shortline passenger motorcars used all across the USA. TAG is listed in the section about Alabama and there is a picture of TAG Scooter #500 sitting in the Alton Park yard. There is only a roster for TAG and no other real info there but if you have an interest in shortline passenger motorcars etc. this is a worthy book to add to your collection.?
Warren
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Hi Warren, ? Does that book by chance have anything on the Cadiz RR in Kentucky? ? Thanks, ? Steve Johnson ? ?
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Subject: [tagroute] Book Review? I just wanted to let everyone know about an interesting book that has a very small TAG mention. It is one of a trilogy of rail motorcar books by a man named Edmund Keilty. I have one of the others which is "Interurban Without Wires". This book is more of a history of the various motorcar producers. I don't have the book he did about doodlebugs and motorcars run by class one railroads. At any rate, I now have a copy of "The Shortline Doodlebug" which is all about shortline passenger motorcars used all across the USA. TAG is listed in the section about Alabama and there is a picture of TAG Scooter #500 sitting in the Alton Park yard. There is only a roster for TAG and no other real info there but if you have an interest in shortline passenger motorcars etc. this is a worthy book to add to your collection.?
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Hey Steve, there is only the slightest bit of info and no pics. It gives the mileage as 10 and that the 1916 official guide states there were two round trips operated by rail car. Sorry. Other Kentucky short lines like the Frankfort & Cincinnati fair a little better.?
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On Aug 28, 2022, at 2:38 PM, Steven D Johnson <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:
? Hi Warren, ? Does that book by chance have anything on the Cadiz RR in Kentucky? ? Thanks, ? Steve Johnson ? ? ? I just wanted to let everyone know about an interesting book that has a very small TAG mention. It is one of a trilogy of rail motorcar books by a man named Edmund Keilty. I have one of the others which is "Interurban Without Wires". This book is more of a history of the various motorcar producers. I don't have the book he did about doodlebugs and motorcars run by class one railroads. At any rate, I now have a copy of "The Shortline Doodlebug" which is all about shortline passenger motorcars used all across the USA. TAG is listed in the section about Alabama and there is a picture of TAG Scooter #500 sitting in the Alton Park yard. There is only a roster for TAG and no other real info there but if you have an interest in shortline passenger motorcars etc. this is a worthy book to add to your collection.?
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Warren,
Does it mention the CofG motorcars?
David
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In a message dated 8/28/2022 7:20:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, wdstephens@... writes:
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Hey Steve, there is only the slightest bit of info and no pics. It gives the mileage as 10 and that the 1916 official guide states there were two round trips operated by rail car. Sorry. Other Kentucky short lines like the Frankfort & Cincinnati fair a little better.?
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Warren
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On Aug 28, 2022, at 2:38 PM, Steven D Johnson <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:
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Hi Warren,
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Does that book by chance have anything on the Cadiz RR in Kentucky?
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Thanks,
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Steve Johnson
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I just wanted to let everyone know about an interesting book that has a very small TAG mention. It is one of a trilogy of rail motorcar books by a man named Edmund Keilty. I have one of the others which is "Interurban Without Wires". This book is more of a history of the various motorcar producers. I don't have the book he did about doodlebugs and motorcars run by class one railroads. At any rate, I now have a copy of "The Shortline Doodlebug" which is all about shortline passenger motorcars used all across the USA. TAG is listed in the section about Alabama and there is a picture of TAG Scooter #500 sitting in the Alton Park yard. There is only a roster for TAG and no other real info there but if you have an interest in shortline passenger motorcars etc. this is a worthy book to add to your collection.?
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No sir, just short line stuff. I would imagine that the CofG and the NC&StL cars would be in that third book I don’t have.?
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On Aug 29, 2022, at 9:01 AM, David Payne via groups.io <davidcofga@...> wrote:
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Warren,
Does it mention the CofG motorcars?
David
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In a message dated 8/28/2022 7:20:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, wdstephens@... writes:
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Hey Steve, there is only the slightest bit of info and no pics. It gives the mileage as 10 and that the 1916 official guide states there were two round trips operated by rail car. Sorry. Other Kentucky short lines like the Frankfort & Cincinnati fair a little better.?
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Warren
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On Aug 28, 2022, at 2:38 PM, Steven D Johnson <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:
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Hi Warren,
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Does that book by chance have anything on the Cadiz RR in Kentucky?
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Thanks,
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Steve Johnson
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I just wanted to let everyone know about an interesting book that has a very small TAG mention. It is one of a trilogy of rail motorcar books by a man named Edmund Keilty. I have one of the others which is "Interurban Without Wires". This book is more of a history of the various motorcar producers. I don't have the book he did about doodlebugs and motorcars run by class one railroads. At any rate, I now have a copy of "The Shortline Doodlebug" which is all about shortline passenger motorcars used all across the USA. TAG is listed in the section about Alabama and there is a picture of TAG Scooter #500 sitting in the Alton Park yard. There is only a roster for TAG and no other real info there but if you have an interest in shortline passenger motorcars etc. this is a worthy book to add to your collection.?
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Warren, ? Thanks for the information.? ? I’ll have to look for those books. ? Steve Johnson ? ?
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Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2022 6:21 PM
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Subject: Re: [tagroute] Book Review? Hey Steve, there is only the slightest bit of info and no pics. It gives the mileage as 10 and that the 1916 official guide states there were two round trips operated by rail car. Sorry. Other Kentucky short lines like the Frankfort & Cincinnati fair a little better.? Warren
On Aug 28, 2022, at 2:38 PM, Steven D Johnson <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote: ? Hi Warren, ? Does that book by chance have anything on the Cadiz RR in Kentucky? ? Thanks, ? Steve Johnson ? ? ? I just wanted to let everyone know about an interesting book that has a very small TAG mention. It is one of a trilogy of rail motorcar books by a man named Edmund Keilty. I have one of the others which is "Interurban Without Wires". This book is more of a history of the various motorcar producers. I don't have the book he did about doodlebugs and motorcars run by class one railroads. At any rate, I now have a copy of "The Shortline Doodlebug" which is all about shortline passenger motorcars used all across the USA. TAG is listed in the section about Alabama and there is a picture of TAG Scooter #500 sitting in the Alton Park yard. There is only a roster for TAG and no other real info there but if you have an interest in shortline passenger motorcars etc. this is a worthy book to add to your collection.?
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Well I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the third volume about class one motorcars. I’ll let y’all know about CofG and NC&StL content.
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On Aug 29, 2022, at 7:15 PM, Steven D Johnson <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:
? Warren, ? Thanks for the information.? ? I’ll have to look for those books. ? Steve Johnson ? ? ? Hey Steve, there is only the slightest bit of info and no pics. It gives the mileage as 10 and that the 1916 official guide states there were two round trips operated by rail car. Sorry. Other Kentucky short lines like the Frankfort & Cincinnati fair a little better.? Warren
On Aug 28, 2022, at 2:38 PM, Steven D Johnson <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote: ? Hi Warren, ? Does that book by chance have anything on the Cadiz RR in Kentucky? ? Thanks, ? Steve Johnson ? ? ? I just wanted to let everyone know about an interesting book that has a very small TAG mention. It is one of a trilogy of rail motorcar books by a man named Edmund Keilty. I have one of the others which is "Interurban Without Wires". This book is more of a history of the various motorcar producers. I don't have the book he did about doodlebugs and motorcars run by class one railroads. At any rate, I now have a copy of "The Shortline Doodlebug" which is all about shortline passenger motorcars used all across the USA. TAG is listed in the section about Alabama and there is a picture of TAG Scooter #500 sitting in the Alton Park yard. There is only a roster for TAG and no other real info there but if you have an interest in shortline passenger motorcars etc. this is a worthy book to add to your collection.?
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From what I found these books were produced in the 1980's and I assume they are out of print. Where did?you find them?
On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 8:11 PM Warren Stephens < wdstephens@...> wrote: Well I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the third volume about class one motorcars. I’ll let y’all know about CofG and NC&StL content.
Warren Warren, ? Thanks for the information.? ? I’ll have to look for those books. ? Steve Johnson ? ? Hey Steve, there is only the slightest bit of info and no pics. It gives the mileage as 10 and that the 1916 official guide states there were two round trips operated by rail car. Sorry. Other Kentucky short lines like the Frankfort & Cincinnati fair a little better.? Warren ? Hi Warren, ? Does that book by chance have anything on the Cadiz RR in Kentucky? ? Thanks, ? Steve Johnson ? ? ? I just wanted to let everyone know about an interesting book that has a very small TAG mention. It is one of a trilogy of rail motorcar books by a man named Edmund Keilty. I have one of the others which is "Interurban Without Wires". This book is more of a history of the various motorcar producers. I don't have the book he did about doodlebugs and motorcars run by class one railroads. At any rate, I now have a copy of "The Shortline Doodlebug" which is all about shortline passenger motorcars used all across the USA. TAG is listed in the section about Alabama and there is a picture of TAG Scooter #500 sitting in the Alton Park yard. There is only a roster for TAG and no other real info there but if you have an interest in shortline passenger motorcars etc. this is a worthy book to add to your collection.?
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Bill, I can’t remember where I got “Interurbans Without Wires” but I do remember getting it used because the former owner was a smoker and it stunk. Fortunately that smell has gone away. Maybe Abe used books or Amazon used? These last two I ordered from Amazon. The shortline doodlebug book from a bookstore selling through Amazon and this last book on class one motorcars that I ordered yesterday was Prime, two day delivery.?
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On Aug 29, 2022, at 11:39 PM, Bill Delmar <bdelmar.list@...> wrote:
? From what I found these books were produced in the 1980's and I assume they are out of print. Where did?you find them? On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 8:11 PM Warren Stephens < wdstephens@...> wrote: Well I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the third volume about class one motorcars. I’ll let y’all know about CofG and NC&StL content.
Warren Warren, ? Thanks for the information.? ? I’ll have to look for those books. ? Steve Johnson ? ? Hey Steve, there is only the slightest bit of info and no pics. It gives the mileage as 10 and that the 1916 official guide states there were two round trips operated by rail car. Sorry. Other Kentucky short lines like the Frankfort & Cincinnati fair a little better.? Warren ? Hi Warren, ? Does that book by chance have anything on the Cadiz RR in Kentucky? ? Thanks, ? Steve Johnson ? ? ? I just wanted to let everyone know about an interesting book that has a very small TAG mention. It is one of a trilogy of rail motorcar books by a man named Edmund Keilty. I have one of the others which is "Interurban Without Wires". This book is more of a history of the various motorcar producers. I don't have the book he did about doodlebugs and motorcars run by class one railroads. At any rate, I now have a copy of "The Shortline Doodlebug" which is all about shortline passenger motorcars used all across the USA. TAG is listed in the section about Alabama and there is a picture of TAG Scooter #500 sitting in the Alton Park yard. There is only a roster for TAG and no other real info there but if you have an interest in shortline passenger motorcars etc. this is a worthy book to add to your collection.?
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Ok I just received the class one motorcar book, the third in the series. It is called “Doodlebug Country.” It has an L&N roster. Evidently they had a motorcar that served 27 years and as the TAG Brill cars were collectively called the Scooter by locals, this car was known locally as the “Huckety-Buck.” There is a pic of this car. NC&StL didn’t keep their two motorcars long. No NC&StL pics. Now here is what I found interesting concerning the CofG. Langley’s “Central of Georgia Railway Album” states that the two CofG motorcars - the 10 and the 11 - were both Brill cars. One is indeed a Brill 55, just like the cars TAG operated, but according to “Doodlebug Country” the 11 was manufactured by Edwards. I had never looked that close prior to this but it is indeed an Edwards car. If you are a CofG fan and you already have the Langley book you will find that there are three pics of the CofG motorcars and only two in the other book. Duplicate of the Langley book’s pics but missing a side shot of the 10. If you ever run across a book called “Rails Remembered Vol. 1” there is a good firsthand account of a trip down the CofG from Chattanooga to Rome, a trip across the Southern from Rome To Gadsden and then TAG back to Chattanooga. Oh how I would have loved to have made that trip. At any rate, if you have more than a passing interest in railroad passenger motorcars, I do recommend these three books.
Warren
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