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? TAG caboose #X-63, nee-NC&StL ? ? Steve Johnson
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This must be the caboose that was parked on display behind the Happy Valley Elementary School in Rossville, Georgia back in the 80's-early 90's. Long since scrapped, alas. Great slide.
Arnold Eaves
On 01/07/2025 6:50 PM EST Steven D Johnson via groups.io <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:
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TAG caboose #X-63, nee-NC&StL
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Steve Johnson
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That is an interesting photo. This is most definitely Alton Park (South Chattanooga) where TAG had their yard, shop and dispatchers and later their freight depot. The screen door is a nice touch. I was in Chattanooga this past weekend. I didn’t get by the old yard sight. I drove down East Brainerd to see what shape that old former NC&StL caboose was in. The one by the liquor store. As I recall it also has a screen door. Did they have these installed during NC&StL service or was that something TAG added? It is in desperate need of some TLC. The Caboose by the liquor store that is. I feel strongly that the East Brainerd ?caboose was the TAG caboose that sat on the Cooper Heights siding and was used for MofW storage. If that is the case, this yellow caboose would be the caboose that was on display at the elementary school. TAG didn’t use these two second hand cabooses long. Maybe five or six years. I don’t know who painted them for TAG originally. I can tell you that Southern painted the two second hand bay window cabooses they sold TAG. At Haynes shop. The ones that replaced these NC&StL in mainline service. I have a negative of one of these same cabooses tacked on the back of a TAG southbound crossing Central Avenue and departing Alton Park. There are a brakemen and conductor standing on the back platform looking rearward. Sadly it is a poor negative even though it is medium format. It is obviously cold and they are bundled up. Maybe someone good at photoshop could clean it up a little. I would be interested in bidding if just for this image.?
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On Jan 7, 2025, at 7:34?PM, arnoldeaves via groups.io <aseaves@...> wrote:
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This must be the caboose that was parked on display behind the Happy Valley Elementary School in Rossville, Georgia back in the 80's-early 90's. Long since scrapped, alas. Great slide.
Arnold Eaves
On 01/07/2025 6:50 PM EST Steven D Johnson via groups.io <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:
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Happened upon this on eBay:
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TAG caboose #X-63, nee-NC&StL
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Steve Johnson
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Boy I have really wanted to get out my references material and pictures of these cabooses because this photo has peaked my interest in them again. Will have to be on an off day. Steve, years ago you sent me a drawing of these and although I have several pics of the two TAG bought from NC&StL, I don’t have any of them in NC or later in L&N service. I bought the resin model of this caboose that came out years ago. Every now and then, I open the box and look at it. It is well beyond my skill level. Something for retirement. The kit came with a page of prototype photos. I’ll look at those. I am curious about the screen doors? Did these preexist their sale to TAG or did TAG add them? This may shore up the notion that the caboose by the liquor store is in fact former TAG. I didn’t take any pics this last visit- of the liquor store caboose - because I have plenty. I’ll look through those as well.?
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On Jan 7, 2025, at 11:45?PM, Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote:
? That is an interesting photo. This is most definitely Alton Park (South Chattanooga) where TAG had their yard, shop and dispatchers and later their freight depot. The screen door is a nice touch. I was in Chattanooga this past weekend. I didn’t get by the old yard sight. I drove down East Brainerd to see what shape that old former NC&StL caboose was in. The one by the liquor store. As I recall it also has a screen door. Did they have these installed during NC&StL service or was that something TAG added? It is in desperate need of some TLC. The Caboose by the liquor store that is. I feel strongly that the East Brainerd ?caboose was the TAG caboose that sat on the Cooper Heights siding and was used for MofW storage. If that is the case, this yellow caboose would be the caboose that was on display at the elementary school. TAG didn’t use these two second hand cabooses long. Maybe five or six years. I don’t know who painted them for TAG originally. I can tell you that Southern painted the two second hand bay window cabooses they sold TAG. At Haynes shop. The ones that replaced these NC&StL in mainline service. I have a negative of one of these same cabooses tacked on the back of a TAG southbound crossing Central Avenue and departing Alton Park. There are a brakemen and conductor standing on the back platform looking rearward. Sadly it is a poor negative even though it is medium format. It is obviously cold and they are bundled up. Maybe someone good at photoshop could clean it up a little. I would be interested in bidding if just for this image.?
Warren
On Jan 7, 2025, at 7:34?PM, arnoldeaves via groups.io <aseaves@...> wrote:
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This must be the caboose that was parked on display behind the Happy Valley Elementary School in Rossville, Georgia back in the 80's-early 90's. Long since scrapped, alas. Great slide.
Arnold Eaves
On 01/07/2025 6:50 PM EST Steven D Johnson via groups.io <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:
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Happened upon this on eBay:
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TAG caboose #X-63, nee-NC&StL
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Steve Johnson
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Warren, ? Attached are various photos of those cabooses.? The article is from a 1925 Car & Locomotive Cyclopedia. No. 318 is the only one that I’m aware of to be repainted into a full L&N scheme.? As for screen doors, it appears that NC&StL no. 6 has one.? In the photos of TAG nos. X-62 and X-63, it appears that neither has screen doors.? In the photo I sent, the screen door looks to be a fairly recent addition.? ? Steve Johnson ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Warren Stephens
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2025 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tagroute] photo of TAG caboose #X-63? Boy I have really wanted to get out my references material and pictures of these cabooses because this photo has peaked my interest in them again. Will have to be on an off day. Steve, years ago you sent me a drawing of these and although I have several pics of the two TAG bought from NC&StL, I don’t have any of them in NC or later in L&N service. I bought the resin model of this caboose that came out years ago. Every now and then, I open the box and look at it. It is well beyond my skill level. Something for retirement. The kit came with a page of prototype photos. I’ll look at those. I am curious about the screen doors? Did these preexist their sale to TAG or did TAG add them? This may shore up the notion that the caboose by the liquor store is in fact former TAG. I didn’t take any pics this last visit- of the liquor store caboose - because I have plenty. I’ll look through those as well.? ?
On Jan 7, 2025, at 11:45?PM, Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote: ?That is an interesting photo. This is most definitely Alton Park (South Chattanooga) where TAG had their yard, shop and dispatchers and later their freight depot. The screen door is a nice touch. I was in Chattanooga this past weekend. I didn’t get by the old yard sight. I drove down East Brainerd to see what shape that old former NC&StL caboose was in. The one by the liquor store. As I recall it also has a screen door. Did they have these installed during NC&StL service or was that something TAG added? It is in desperate need of some TLC. The Caboose by the liquor store that is. I feel strongly that the East Brainerd ?caboose was the TAG caboose that sat on the Cooper Heights siding and was used for MofW storage. If that is the case, this yellow caboose would be the caboose that was on display at the elementary school. TAG didn’t use these two second hand cabooses long. Maybe five or six years. I don’t know who painted them for TAG originally. I can tell you that Southern painted the two second hand bay window cabooses they sold TAG. At Haynes shop. The ones that replaced these NC&StL in mainline service. I have a negative of one of these same cabooses tacked on the back of a TAG southbound crossing Central Avenue and departing Alton Park. There are a brakemen and conductor standing on the back platform looking rearward. Sadly it is a poor negative even though it is medium format. It is obviously cold and they are bundled up. Maybe someone good at photoshop could clean it up a little. I would be interested in bidding if just for this image.? Warren ?
On Jan 7, 2025, at 7:34?PM, arnoldeaves via groups.io <aseaves@...> wrote: ? This must be the caboose that was parked on display behind the Happy Valley Elementary School in Rossville, Georgia back in the 80's-early 90's. Long since scrapped, alas. Great slide. On 01/07/2025 6:50 PM EST Steven D Johnson via groups.io <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote: Happened upon this on eBay: ?
? TAG caboose #X-63, nee-NC&StL ? ? Steve Johnson
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I'm assuming it was one of these that sat on the siding at Menlo and used for storage before the MOW building was built in the 60's? Always full of wasps nest so we kids wouldn't climb into it.
David Luther
It is He that has made us, and not we ourselves;
On Wednesday, January 8, 2025 at 06:48:16 PM EST, Steven D Johnson via groups.io <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:
Warren, ? Attached are various photos of those cabooses.? The article is from a 1925 Car & Locomotive Cyclopedia. No. 318 is the only one that I’m aware of to be repainted into a full L&N scheme.? As for screen doors, it appears that NC&StL no. 6 has one.? In the photos of TAG nos. X-62 and X-63, it appears that neither has screen doors.? In the photo I sent, the screen door looks to be a fairly recent addition.? ? Steve Johnson ? ?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Warren Stephens
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2025 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [tagroute] photo of TAG caboose #X-63 ? Boy I have really wanted to get out my references material and pictures of these cabooses because this photo has peaked my interest in them again. Will have to be on an off day. Steve, years ago you sent me a drawing of these and although I have several pics of the two TAG bought from NC&StL, I don’t have any of them in NC or later in L&N service. I bought the resin model of this caboose that came out years ago. Every now and then, I open the box and look at it. It is well beyond my skill level. Something for retirement. The kit came with a page of prototype photos. I’ll look at those. I am curious about the screen doors? Did these preexist their sale to TAG or did TAG add them? This may shore up the notion that the caboose by the liquor store is in fact former TAG. I didn’t take any pics this last visit- of the liquor store caboose - because I have plenty. I’ll look through those as well.? ?
On Jan 7, 2025, at 11:45?PM, Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote: ?That is an interesting photo. This is most definitely Alton Park (South Chattanooga) where TAG had their yard, shop and dispatchers and later their freight depot. The screen door is a nice touch. I was in Chattanooga this past weekend. I didn’t get by the old yard sight. I drove down East Brainerd to see what shape that old former NC&StL caboose was in. The one by the liquor store. As I recall it also has a screen door. Did they have these installed during NC&StL service or was that something TAG added? It is in desperate need of some TLC. The Caboose by the liquor store that is. I feel strongly that the East Brainerd ?caboose was the TAG caboose that sat on the Cooper Heights siding and was used for MofW storage. If that is the case, this yellow caboose would be the caboose that was on display at the elementary school. TAG didn’t use these two second hand cabooses long. Maybe five or six years. I don’t know who painted them for TAG originally. I can tell you that Southern painted the two second hand bay window cabooses they sold TAG. At Haynes shop. The ones that replaced these NC&StL in mainline service. I have a negative of one of these same cabooses tacked on the back of a TAG southbound crossing Central Avenue and departing Alton Park. There are a brakemen and conductor standing on the back platform looking rearward. Sadly it is a poor negative even though it is medium format. It is obviously cold and they are bundled up. Maybe someone good at photoshop could clean it up a little. I would be interested in bidding if just for this image.? Warren ?
On Jan 7, 2025, at 7:34?PM, arnoldeaves via groups.io <aseaves@...> wrote: ? This must be the caboose that was parked on display behind the Happy Valley Elementary School in Rossville, Georgia back in the 80's-early 90's. Long since scrapped, alas. Great slide. On 01/07/2025 6:50 PM EST Steven D Johnson via groups.io <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote: Happened upon this on eBay: ?
? TAG caboose #X-63, nee-NC&StL ? ? Steve Johnson
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No sir, that caboose was bought by Randall Magnuson and trucked to Lafayette. The wood sheathing was so rotten that he couldn’t save it. He did retain the trucks and hardware. This was when he was a teen. His intention was to someday rebuild it but so far he has not. The Menlo caboose was ancient. It had arch bar trucks which are in the weeds near the Central of Georgia tracks in Lafayette unless Randall moved them after he retired. I will try and post a picture of the Menlo caboose tomorrow maybe. I also hope to look over the pics/negatives/slides I have of the external brace cabooses like the yellow one and the one on East Brainerd.?
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On Jan 9, 2025, at 6:53?AM, David Luther via groups.io <dwluther@...> wrote:
? I'm assuming it was one of these that sat on the siding at Menlo and used for storage before the MOW building was built in the 60's? Always full of wasps nest so we kids wouldn't climb into it.
David Luther
It is He that has made us, and not we ourselves;
On Wednesday, January 8, 2025 at 06:48:16 PM EST, Steven D Johnson via groups.io <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:
Warren, ? Attached are various photos of those cabooses.? The article is from a 1925 Car & Locomotive Cyclopedia. No. 318 is the only one that I’m aware of to be repainted into a full L&N scheme.? As for screen doors, it appears that NC&StL no. 6 has one.? In the photos of TAG nos. X-62 and X-63, it appears that neither has screen doors.? In the photo I sent, the screen door looks to be a fairly recent addition.? ? Steve Johnson ? ? ? Boy I have really wanted to get out my references material and pictures of these cabooses because this photo has peaked my interest in them again. Will have to be on an off day. Steve, years ago you sent me a drawing of these and although I have several pics of the two TAG bought from NC&StL, I don’t have any of them in NC or later in L&N service. I bought the resin model of this caboose that came out years ago. Every now and then, I open the box and look at it. It is well beyond my skill level. Something for retirement. The kit came with a page of prototype photos. I’ll look at those. I am curious about the screen doors? Did these preexist their sale to TAG or did TAG add them? This may shore up the notion that the caboose by the liquor store is in fact former TAG. I didn’t take any pics this last visit- of the liquor store caboose - because I have plenty. I’ll look through those as well.? ?
On Jan 7, 2025, at 11:45?PM, Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote: ?That is an interesting photo. This is most definitely Alton Park (South Chattanooga) where TAG had their yard, shop and dispatchers and later their freight depot. The screen door is a nice touch. I was in Chattanooga this past weekend. I didn’t get by the old yard sight. I drove down East Brainerd to see what shape that old former NC&StL caboose was in. The one by the liquor store. As I recall it also has a screen door. Did they have these installed during NC&StL service or was that something TAG added? It is in desperate need of some TLC. The Caboose by the liquor store that is. I feel strongly that the East Brainerd ?caboose was the TAG caboose that sat on the Cooper Heights siding and was used for MofW storage. If that is the case, this yellow caboose would be the caboose that was on display at the elementary school. TAG didn’t use these two second hand cabooses long. Maybe five or six years. I don’t know who painted them for TAG originally. I can tell you that Southern painted the two second hand bay window cabooses they sold TAG. At Haynes shop. The ones that replaced these NC&StL in mainline service. I have a negative of one of these same cabooses tacked on the back of a TAG southbound crossing Central Avenue and departing Alton Park. There are a brakemen and conductor standing on the back platform looking rearward. Sadly it is a poor negative even though it is medium format. It is obviously cold and they are bundled up. Maybe someone good at photoshop could clean it up a little. I would be interested in bidding if just for this image.? Warren ?
On Jan 7, 2025, at 7:34?PM, arnoldeaves via groups.io <aseaves@...> wrote: ? This must be the caboose that was parked on display behind the Happy Valley Elementary School in Rossville, Georgia back in the 80's-early 90's. Long since scrapped, alas. Great slide. On 01/07/2025 6:50 PM EST Steven D Johnson via groups.io <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote: Happened upon this on eBay: ?
? TAG caboose #X-63, nee-NC&StL ? ? Steve Johnson
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Well the door as depicted in the Car & Locomotive Cyclopedia is not the same as the door we see in the photos taken during their time on TAG? This attached is not the best but it does show the top of the caboose. And the door.
Warren??
On Thursday, January 9, 2025 at 11:05:30 PM EST, Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote:
No sir, that caboose was bought by Randall Magnuson and trucked to Lafayette. The wood sheathing was so rotten that he couldn’t save it. He did retain the trucks and hardware. This was when he was a teen. His intention was to someday rebuild it but so far he has not. The Menlo caboose was ancient. It had arch bar trucks which are in the weeds near the Central of Georgia tracks in Lafayette unless Randall moved them after he retired. I will try and post a picture of the Menlo caboose tomorrow maybe. I also hope to look over the pics/negatives/slides I have of the external brace cabooses like the yellow one and the one on East Brainerd.?
On Jan 9, 2025, at 6:53?AM, David Luther via groups.io <dwluther@...> wrote:
? I'm assuming it was one of these that sat on the siding at Menlo and used for storage before the MOW building was built in the 60's? Always full of wasps nest so we kids wouldn't climb into it.
David Luther
It is He that has made us, and not we ourselves;
On Wednesday, January 8, 2025 at 06:48:16 PM EST, Steven D Johnson via groups.io <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:
Warren, ? Attached are various photos of those cabooses.? The article is from a 1925 Car & Locomotive Cyclopedia. No. 318 is the only one that I’m aware of to be repainted into a full L&N scheme.? As for screen doors, it appears that NC&StL no. 6 has one.? In the photos of TAG nos. X-62 and X-63, it appears that neither has screen doors.? In the photo I sent, the screen door looks to be a fairly recent addition.? ? Steve Johnson ? ? ? Boy I have really wanted to get out my references material and pictures of these cabooses because this photo has peaked my interest in them again. Will have to be on an off day. Steve, years ago you sent me a drawing of these and although I have several pics of the two TAG bought from NC&StL, I don’t have any of them in NC or later in L&N service. I bought the resin model of this caboose that came out years ago. Every now and then, I open the box and look at it. It is well beyond my skill level. Something for retirement. The kit came with a page of prototype photos. I’ll look at those. I am curious about the screen doors? Did these preexist their sale to TAG or did TAG add them? This may shore up the notion that the caboose by the liquor store is in fact former TAG. I didn’t take any pics this last visit- of the liquor store caboose - because I have plenty. I’ll look through those as well.? ?
On Jan 7, 2025, at 11:45?PM, Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote: ?That is an interesting photo. This is most definitely Alton Park (South Chattanooga) where TAG had their yard, shop and dispatchers and later their freight depot. The screen door is a nice touch. I was in Chattanooga this past weekend. I didn’t get by the old yard sight. I drove down East Brainerd to see what shape that old former NC&StL caboose was in. The one by the liquor store. As I recall it also has a screen door. Did they have these installed during NC&StL service or was that something TAG added? It is in desperate need of some TLC. The Caboose by the liquor store that is. I feel strongly that the East Brainerd ?caboose was the TAG caboose that sat on the Cooper Heights siding and was used for MofW storage. If that is the case, this yellow caboose would be the caboose that was on display at the elementary school. TAG didn’t use these two second hand cabooses long. Maybe five or six years. I don’t know who painted them for TAG originally. I can tell you that Southern painted the two second hand bay window cabooses they sold TAG. At Haynes shop. The ones that replaced these NC&StL in mainline service. I have a negative of one of these same cabooses tacked on the back of a TAG southbound crossing Central Avenue and departing Alton Park. There are a brakemen and conductor standing on the back platform looking rearward. Sadly it is a poor negative even though it is medium format. It is obviously cold and they are bundled up. Maybe someone good at photoshop could clean it up a little. I would be interested in bidding if just for this image.? Warren ?
On Jan 7, 2025, at 7:34?PM, arnoldeaves via groups.io <aseaves@...> wrote: ? This must be the caboose that was parked on display behind the Happy Valley Elementary School in Rossville, Georgia back in the 80's-early 90's. Long since scrapped, alas. Great slide. On 01/07/2025 6:50 PM EST Steven D Johnson via groups.io <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote: Happened upon this on eBay: ?
? TAG caboose #X-63, nee-NC&StL ? ? Steve Johnson
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Warren Stephens
