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66th Atlanta Model Train Show - THIS Saturday, January 18, 2025
Please share and cross-post. ------------------------------------------------------ 66th Atlanta Model Train Show Saturday, January 18, 2026 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM Gas South Convention Center (Formerly the Infinite Energy Forum) 6400 Sugarloaf Parkway, Duluth, Georgia 30097 Atlanta's OLDEST and LARGEST MODEL TRAIN and RAILROADIANA SHOW !? Over 300 Tables of Model Trains and Railroad Collectibles For Sale ! Seven Operating Layouts ! Admission $12,?Children under 12 Free. Early admission $25.? Good for all times. Parking deck - $5 for up to?12 hours, credit/debit card only Admission discount card ? For Dealer Contracts and Show Information contact: Charlie Miller 3106 N. Rochester Street Arlington, VA 22213 Telephone :703-536-2954 Fax:?703-241-7027 e-mail:?rrshows@... |
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Re: photo of TAG caboose
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Well the door as depicted in the Car & Locomotive Cyclopedia is not the same as the door we see in the photos taken during their time on TAG? This attached is not the best but it does show the top of the caboose. And the door. Warren??
On Thursday, January 9, 2025 at 11:05:30 PM EST, Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote:
No sir, that caboose was bought by Randall Magnuson and trucked to Lafayette. The wood sheathing was so rotten that he couldn¡¯t save it. He did retain the trucks and hardware. This was when he was a teen. His intention was to someday rebuild it but so far he has not. The Menlo caboose was ancient. It had arch bar trucks which are in the weeds near the Central of Georgia tracks in Lafayette unless Randall moved them after he retired. I will try and post a picture of the Menlo caboose tomorrow maybe. I also hope to look over the pics/negatives/slides I have of the external brace cabooses like the yellow one and the one on East Brainerd.? Warren Warren On Jan 9, 2025, at 6:53?AM, David Luther via groups.io <dwluther@...> wrote:
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E. Brainerd caboose
The first time I saw this caboose it was in wretched condition. About maybe 15 years ago the owner resheathed it with fresh wooden boards. I first discovered its existence maybe five or ten years prior to that. I looked back at the images I took upon first discovery and although it looks bad now, it was way worse before he restored it. I am sure somewhere I have pics of it freshly cleaned up but I don¡¯t want to dig. I see no screen door in either shot. On this attachment, the door is very close to the appearance of the original. But in the as first discovered pics, the door had a tiny diamond shaped window. Almost outhouse like. The attached was taken in 2020. I looked at all my TAG prints and scans of these and see no evidence of screen doors.
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Re: photo of TAG caboose
#X-63
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýNo sir, that caboose was bought by Randall Magnuson and trucked to Lafayette. The wood sheathing was so rotten that he couldn¡¯t save it. He did retain the trucks and hardware. This was when he was a teen. His intention was to someday rebuild it but so far he has not. The Menlo caboose was ancient. It had arch bar trucks which are in the weeds near the Central of Georgia tracks in Lafayette unless Randall moved them after he retired. I will try and post a picture of the Menlo caboose tomorrow maybe. I also hope to look over the pics/negatives/slides I have of the external brace cabooses like the yellow one and the one on East Brainerd.?Warren Warren On Jan 9, 2025, at 6:53?AM, David Luther via groups.io <dwluther@...> wrote:
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Re: photo of TAG caboose
#X-63
I'm assuming it was one of these that sat on the siding at Menlo and used for storage before the MOW building was built in the 60's? Always full of wasps nest so we kids wouldn't climb into it. David Luther It is He that has made us, and not we ourselves;
On Wednesday, January 8, 2025 at 06:48:16 PM EST, Steven D Johnson via groups.io <tenncentralrwy@...> wrote:
Warren, ? Attached are various photos of those cabooses.? The article is from a 1925 Car & Locomotive Cyclopedia. No. 318 is the only one that I¡¯m aware of to be repainted into a full L&N scheme.? As for screen doors, it appears that NC&StL no. 6 has one.? In the photos of TAG nos. X-62 and X-63, it appears that neither has screen doors.? In the photo I sent, the screen door looks to be a fairly recent addition.? ? Steve Johnson ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Warren Stephens
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2025 5:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [tagroute] photo of TAG caboose #X-63 ? Boy I have really wanted to get out my references material and pictures of these cabooses because this photo has peaked my interest in them again. Will have to be on an off day. Steve, years ago you sent me a drawing of these and although I have several pics of the two TAG bought from NC&StL, I don¡¯t have any of them in NC or later in L&N service. I bought the resin model of this caboose that came out years ago. Every now and then, I open the box and look at it. It is well beyond my skill level. Something for retirement. The kit came with a page of prototype photos. I¡¯ll look at those. I am curious about the screen doors? Did these preexist their sale to TAG or did TAG add them? This may shore up the notion that the caboose by the liquor store is in fact former TAG. I didn¡¯t take any pics this last visit- of the liquor store caboose - because I have plenty. I¡¯ll look through those as well.? ? ? On Jan 7, 2025, at 11:45?PM, Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote:
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Re: photo of TAG caboose
#X-63
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWarren, ? Attached are various photos of those cabooses.? The article is from a 1925 Car & Locomotive Cyclopedia. No. 318 is the only one that I¡¯m aware of to be repainted into a full L&N scheme.? As for screen doors, it appears that NC&StL no. 6 has one.? In the photos of TAG nos. X-62 and X-63, it appears that neither has screen doors.? In the photo I sent, the screen door looks to be a fairly recent addition.? ? Steve Johnson ? ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Warren Stephens
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2025 5:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [tagroute] photo of TAG caboose #X-63 ? Boy I have really wanted to get out my references material and pictures of these cabooses because this photo has peaked my interest in them again. Will have to be on an off day. Steve, years ago you sent me a drawing of these and although I have several pics of the two TAG bought from NC&StL, I don¡¯t have any of them in NC or later in L&N service. I bought the resin model of this caboose that came out years ago. Every now and then, I open the box and look at it. It is well beyond my skill level. Something for retirement. The kit came with a page of prototype photos. I¡¯ll look at those. I am curious about the screen doors? Did these preexist their sale to TAG or did TAG add them? This may shore up the notion that the caboose by the liquor store is in fact former TAG. I didn¡¯t take any pics this last visit- of the liquor store caboose - because I have plenty. I¡¯ll look through those as well.? ? ? On Jan 7, 2025, at 11:45?PM, Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote:
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Re: photo of TAG caboose
#X-63
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýBoy I have really wanted to get out my references material and pictures of these cabooses because this photo has peaked my interest in them again. Will have to be on an off day. Steve, years ago you sent me a drawing of these and although I have several pics of the two TAG bought from NC&StL, I don¡¯t have any of them in NC or later in L&N service. I bought the resin model of this caboose that came out years ago. Every now and then, I open the box and look at it. It is well beyond my skill level. Something for retirement. The kit came with a page of prototype photos. I¡¯ll look at those. I am curious about the screen doors? Did these preexist their sale to TAG or did TAG add them? This may shore up the notion that the caboose by the liquor store is in fact former TAG. I didn¡¯t take any pics this last visit- of the liquor store caboose - because I have plenty. I¡¯ll look through those as well.?On Jan 7, 2025, at 11:45?PM, Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote:
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Re: photo of TAG caboose
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThat is an interesting photo. This is most definitely Alton Park (South Chattanooga) where TAG had their yard, shop and dispatchers and later their freight depot. The screen door is a nice touch. I was in Chattanooga this past weekend. I didn¡¯t get by the old yard sight. I drove down East Brainerd to see what shape that old former NC&StL caboose was in. The one by the liquor store. As I recall it also has a screen door. Did they have these installed during NC&StL service or was that something TAG added? It is in desperate need of some TLC. TheCaboose by the liquor store that is. I feel strongly that the East Brainerd ?caboose was the TAG caboose that sat on the Cooper Heights siding and was used for MofW storage. If that is the case, this yellow caboose would be the caboose that was on display at the elementary school. TAG didn¡¯t use these two second hand cabooses long. Maybe five or six years. I don¡¯t know who painted them for TAG originally. I can tell you that Southern painted the two second hand bay window cabooses they sold TAG. At Haynes shop. The ones that replaced these NC&StL in mainline service. I have a negative of one of these same cabooses tacked on the back of a TAG southbound crossing Central Avenue and departing Alton Park. There are a brakemen and conductor standing on the back platform looking rearward. Sadly it is a poor negative even though it is medium format. It is obviously cold and they are bundled up. Maybe someone good at photoshop could clean it up a little. I would be interested in bidding if just for this image.? Warren On Jan 7, 2025, at 7:34?PM, arnoldeaves via groups.io <aseaves@...> wrote:
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Re: photo of TAG caboose
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This must be the caboose that was parked on display behind the Happy Valley Elementary School in Rossville, Georgia back in the 80's-early 90's. Long since scrapped, alas. Great slide.
Arnold Eaves
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NS 224 with the TA&G trailing
Cross-posting Bill Delmar Atlanta, Ga ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Thomas Howard via <thomas.howard42=[email protected]> Date: Wed, Dec 25, 2024 at 11:17?AM Subject: [SErails] NS 224 with the TA&G trailing To: SERails <[email protected]> Thomas Howard |
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Re: Chattanooga Paint Shop
Yes the facility is there and the original GE (or was it EMD) Heritage units were painted there.? With increasing EPA compliance costs it made sense to consolidate all of the painting in one place and it was moved to Altoona because of the rebuilding going on there.
On Monday, December 9, 2024 at 11:01:25 PM EST, Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote:
Do they not have the old Southern Railway Chattanooga paint shop at Citico/DeButts any more? The original four TAG diesels were repainted there. When TAG purchased the 80, they contracted with Southern to paint the other four so they would all look fresh. You can judge the approximate year a picture of the GP7s and the GP18 was taken by the freshness of the paint. Fresh from EMD, they had trust plates. Fresh from Southern¡¯s paint shop, no trust plate. I guess the Chattanooga paint shop fell after the Conrail merger. That overall facility in Altoona must be impressive. The folks in Penn did a mighty fine job. Warren |
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Chattanooga Paint Shop
Do they not have the old Southern Railway Chattanooga paint shop at Citico/DeButts any more? The original four TAG diesels were repainted there. When TAG purchased the 80, they contracted with Southern to paint the other four so they would all look fresh. You can judge the approximate year a picture of the GP7s and the GP18 was taken by the freshness of the paint. Fresh from EMD, they had trust plates. Fresh from Southern¡¯s paint shop, no trust plate. I guess the Chattanooga paint shop fell after the Conrail merger. That overall facility in Altoona must be impressive. The folks in Penn did a mighty fine job.
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Re: [SErails] Norfolk Southern debuts Tennessee, Alabama & Georgia heritage locomotive
Gorgeous? Brad T. Culligan On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 10:52 Bill Delmar via <bdelmar.list=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Norfolk Southern TAG Heritage Unit Rockwood and Chattanooga Arrival
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWell I doubt I would make it to Valley Head or Trenton in time if I left Metro Atlanta after my shift. I get off here at the Atlanta airport at 24:45 eastern. And a nighttime encounter would not be very satisfying, even if I could figure out where to wait. Hopefully I will catch her at some point where she is stationary and in good light.?Warren? On Dec 9, 2024, at 8:10?PM, Colt Locklear via groups.io <colt.locklear@...> wrote:
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Re: Norfolk Southern TAG Heritage Unit Rockwood and Chattanooga Arrival
It's first revenue run is tonight on a freight to Birmingham from Chattanooga, don't know if it's leading or exactly when it will leave but the crew is planned for 10pm Central. Probably won't leave til after midnight. Colt On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, 18:54 Warren Stephens via <wdstephens=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Norfolk Southern TAG Heritage Unit Rockwood and Chattanooga Arrival
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWell I found another YouTube post where railfans were wandering around it at TVRM and it was parked adjacent to TAG 80. Looks like the modern railroad fans knew all about it but they forgot to tell the rest of us. Those who love railroad history. I would have taken the day off and driven up had I known. Oh well.?Warren On Dec 9, 2024, at 6:13?PM, Colt Locklear via groups.io <colt.locklear@...> wrote:
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Re: Norfolk Southern TAG Heritage Unit Rockwood and Chattanooga Arrival
It was down for a private NS employee event at the TVRM. There was also a photoshoot that night, should be at the interchange for NS now to be sent to DeButts and put in service. Colt On Mon, Dec 9, 2024, 15:59 Warren Stephens via <wdstephens=[email protected]> wrote: Supposedly she - the TAG Heritage Unit- has arrived in Chattanooga for an NS event. Does anyone know what is going on? In this footage she is seen coming down the CNOT&P and over Tenn-Bridge. Ironically the CNOT&P where this was shot, was the TAG¡¯s primary northern outlet. |
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Re: Norfolk Southern TAG Heritage Unit Rockwood and Chattanooga Arrival
According to what I read, the event was set up for NS employees.
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Arnold On 12/09/2024 4:59 PM EST Warren Stephens <wdstephens@...> wrote: |
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Norfolk Southern TAG Heritage Unit Rockwood and Chattanooga Arrival
Supposedly she - the TAG Heritage Unit- has arrived in Chattanooga for an NS event. Does anyone know what is going on? In this footage she is seen coming down the CNOT&P and over Tenn-Bridge. Ironically the CNOT&P where this was shot, was the TAG¡¯s primary northern outlet.
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