Dave, I had a similar problem on a Minitrix loco years ago.? The front to back play in the motor shaft was just enough to cause jamming in reverse. Solved the problem just as you suggested - adding a thrust washer between the worm gear and motor bushing.? This kept the forward/back play within tolerance for the driven gear.
Rob
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 2:34 PM Dave Smith via Groups.Io <SUNNYFIELD= [email protected]> wrote: A bit off topic of group but it is model railroad related!
I wonder if someone you might have a suggestion for me about the following. I have an On30 Bachmann Porter engine that uses a worm gear to drive the axle gear. The locomotive runs fine in the forward position but stalls (jams) in reverse. I disconnected the running gear and wheels and it does the same. Motor spins internal gears in forward but jams in reverse. I removed the gear that sits between motor and axle and the motor and worm gear run fine.
Is there an adjustment that needs to be made to the positioning of the work gear? Some where I seem to remember that a thrust washer is used on the motor shaft containing a worm gear.
Any thoughts as to why it would run in one direction and jam in the other?
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The magnetic force on the armature when it receives electricity wants to move it forward or backward within its magnetic shell. So that movement when the locomotive is to reverse jams it in your situation. A thrust washer might solve the problem. A minute movement of the worm on its motor shaft might solve it. Would need to be small movement.?
On Monday, January 27, 2020, 1:34 PM, Dave Smith via Groups.Io <SUNNYFIELD@...> wrote: A bit off topic of group but it is model railroad related!
I wonder if someone you might have a suggestion for me about the following. I have an On30 Bachmann Porter engine that uses a worm gear to drive the axle gear. The locomotive runs fine in the forward position but stalls (jams) in reverse. I disconnected the running gear and wheels and it does the same. Motor spins internal gears in forward but jams in reverse. I removed the gear that sits between motor and axle and the motor and worm gear run fine.
Is there an adjustment that needs to be made to the positioning of the work gear? Some where I seem to remember that a thrust washer is used on the motor shaft containing a worm gear.
Any thoughts as to why it would run in one direction and jam in the other?
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A bit off topic of group but it is model railroad related!
I wonder if someone you might have a suggestion for me about the following. I have an On30 Bachmann Porter engine that uses a worm gear to drive the axle gear. The locomotive runs fine in the forward position but stalls (jams) in reverse. I disconnected the running gear and wheels and it does the same. Motor spins internal gears in forward but jams in reverse. I removed the gear that sits between motor and axle and the motor and worm gear run fine.
Is there an adjustment that needs to be made to the positioning of the work gear? Some where I seem to remember that a thrust washer is used on the motor shaft containing a worm gear.
Any thoughts as to why it would run in one direction and jam in the other?
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Re: Hello and Christmas Greetings
I've never had a respectable amount of RReal estate. I once had a 4'x8' plywood board, but that was for a month. Of course the occassional roundy round under the Christmas tree. We all know how long they last!
I've collected a number of Erie and EL equipment, transition age. All DC. DCC is a possibility. The intention was for a flour / bread baking industry and some other small industries that I've researched in the area of Paterson NJ. There's lots of history there, the silk industry of the early 1900 and also a few loco manufacturers.
Now that I'm retired with much less space, I now am looking at a 2'x8' modular layout. This will reside on part of my desk! The flour industry is still part of the plan. a station, a small section of small industries and stores that reflect their dependance on the RR in Paterson.? Two sections able to stack one over the other for storage. After the new year I'll be starting some post on my RR blog (see below).
Like all elders we have fond memories of our younger years and how the RR was part of our lives. The path of research and planning is a much part of the hobby as building and operating. Enjoy!
? Best Regards Phil
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On Tuesday, December 24, 2019, 1:03:43 PM EST, Bill Reid <wreidfam@...> wrote:
I am just arriving to the group. I have been in HOn3 for years but our recent move from a large house to a small townhome forces me to reconsider all my model Railroading to a simple 10' X 20" world. Like so many of you I still have excess kits in-spite of my prior sales on Ebay. I have NCE controls and Sound-Traxx in most of my favorite engines but it seems like the slow - speed SHAY should become the real focus now. Sierra West Kits have fascinated me because of their detail but in living in North Dakota their southern focus (lack of some doors) calls for some modification. Since We grew up in Wisconsin the "Chicago, Milwaukee, & St Paul" was my focus so a branch line is a natural. My interest in Genealogy revealed that 2 generations of my family worked at Fairbanks-Morse so I couldn't resist an early switching engine, so maybe I'll need to reconsider a use of dual- gauge track; so turnout conversions are also in my future. Anyway here I am in my mid-70s with more then enough to keep me busy...
Great to be able to look in on all of you and see how you wrestle with space problems.
Merry Christmas
Bill
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Welcome aboard. Enjoying a smaller build cycle as well. Have a son living in Woodlake, CA and have become fascinated with the Visalia Electric Railway. Modeling its latter years with SP 44 ton switcher moving reefers and LCL shipments through the valley. Great fun researching and designing a modular/transportable system of construction.?
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Where there is a will there is a way. Anyone can have a layout if they
really want one and small ones can be as satisfying as large ones and
sometimes more so in many ways.
Ron
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On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 4:06 AM Bob Macklin < [email protected]> wrote:
Back in the 1990's I had to go to "MODULAR". There was a decent modular group in the Sacramento (Roseville) area so I joined it.
I was close to retirement.
In 2000 my wife passed away and I had to move into a "RETIREMENT CLOSET" with no room for a layout.
So I built a 2X4 ft switching diaroma. It'a an Arizona desert town. One small mie and a cattle yard. Half a dozen town buildings and a small station.
All Campbell structures.
Manual switching. DC, NO DCC needed.
It sits on top of a couple short bookcases.
Better than no layout!
Bob Macklin
Seattle, Wa
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Like many model railroaded, I often thought about the 'empire' I would build: locomotive servicing facility, turntable, roundhouse, long mainline through towns and rural areas, branch lines, interchanges, etc., etc.
However, after 30 years of this 'planning', reality set in and I realized this dream layout might not be.
A left over 1x8 foot piece of 1/2 inch plywood from some construction at our house inspired me. I took a track plan from an old issue of Railroad Model Craftsman. It was an extension to John Olsen's Jerome and Southwestern called the Back Alley and Wharf. Using the free version of Atlas' track planning software I was able to compress and elongate it to the size of the plywood.
I kept it simple with manual switch levers and only 2 electrical blocks : the 'mainline' and all the rest. The thought was that in future, I might be able to set up a temporary loop and put the local switcher into a siding, flip the block switch to have a through train come through. Again, to keep it simple, I mounted the power source connector on the fascia.
Having the power connector had an unintentional benefit of allowing me to switch from DC to DCC very easily.
And so I have been having fun with my revised empire and have been slowly thinning much of my 'stash.
Merry Christmas to all!
Bob Mitchell
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 7:00 PM, Ron Hunt
<btlarea@...> wrote:
Welcome and good luck with your project.
Merry Christmas to you and all the members here.
Ron
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 1:03 PM Bill Reid <wreidfam@...> wrote:
I am just arriving to the group. I have been in HOn3 for years but our recent move from a large house to a small townhome forces me to reconsider all my model Railroading to a simple 10' X 20" world. Like so many of you I still have excess kits in-spite of my prior sales on Ebay. I have NCE controls and Sound-Traxx in most of my favorite engines but it seems like the slow - speed SHAY should become the real focus now. Sierra West Kits have fascinated me because of their detail but in living in North Dakota their southern focus (lack of some doors) calls for some modification. Since We grew up in Wisconsin the "Chicago, Milwaukee, & St Paul" was my focus so a branch line is a natural. My interest in Genealogy revealed that 2 generations of my family worked at Fairbanks-Morse so I couldn't resist an early switching engine, so maybe I'll need to reconsider a use of dual- gauge track; so turnout conversions are also in my future. Anyway here I am in my mid-70s with more then enough to keep me busy...
Great to be able to look in on all of you and see how you wrestle with space problems.
Merry Christmas
Bill
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I know how it goes. After many years and several different RR's I found myself with a 30'x50' section of the basement all mine to do with as I please. I also found I no longer had the interest in a big payout, the time or what it took to constantly run up and down the stairs. So I opted for a spare bedroom and a 8'x10' space. Got everything I need in it, yea it is crowded and no I don't work on it much anymore but I swear I will one of those days. LOL Ron On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 9:14 PM Bob Mitchell via Groups.Io <nebula07869@...> wrote:
Like many model railroaded, I often thought about the 'empire' I would build: locomotive servicing facility, turntable, roundhouse, long mainline through towns and rural areas, branch lines, interchanges, etc., etc.
However, after 30 years of this 'planning', reality set in and I realized this dream layout might not be.
A left over 1x8 foot piece of 1/2 inch plywood from some construction at our house inspired me. I took a track plan from an old issue of Railroad Model Craftsman. It was an extension to John Olsen's Jerome and Southwestern called the Back Alley and Wharf. Using the free version of Atlas' track planning software I was able to compress and elongate it to the size of the plywood.
I kept it simple with manual switch levers and only 2 electrical blocks : the 'mainline' and all the rest. The thought was that in future, I might be able to set up a temporary loop and put the local switcher into a siding, flip the block switch to have a through train come through. Again, to keep it simple, I mounted the power source connector on the fascia.
Having the power connector had an unintentional benefit of allowing me to switch from DC to DCC very easily.
And so I have been having fun with my revised empire and have been slowly thinning much of my 'stash.
Merry Christmas to all!
Bob Mitchell
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 7:00 PM, Ron Hunt
<btlarea@...> wrote:
Welcome and good luck with your project.
Merry Christmas to you and all the members here.
Ron
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 1:03 PM Bill Reid <wreidfam@...> wrote:
I am just arriving to the group. I have been in HOn3 for years but our recent move from a large house to a small townhome forces me to reconsider all my model Railroading to a simple 10' X 20" world. Like so many of you I still have excess kits in-spite of my prior sales on Ebay. I have NCE controls and Sound-Traxx in most of my favorite engines but it seems like the slow - speed SHAY should become the real focus now. Sierra West Kits have fascinated me because of their detail but in living in North Dakota their southern focus (lack of some doors) calls for some modification. Since We grew up in Wisconsin the "Chicago, Milwaukee, & St Paul" was my focus so a branch line is a natural. My interest in Genealogy revealed that 2 generations of my family worked at Fairbanks-Morse so I couldn't resist an early switching engine, so maybe I'll need to reconsider a use of dual- gauge track; so turnout conversions are also in my future. Anyway here I am in my mid-70s with more then enough to keep me busy...
Great to be able to look in on all of you and see how you wrestle with space problems.
Merry Christmas
Bill
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On 12/24/19 6:01 PM, Bob Mitchell via Groups.Io wrote: A left over 1x8 foot piece of 1/2 inch plywood from some construction at our house inspired me. I took a track plan from an old issue of Railroad Model Craftsman. It was an extension to John Olsen's Jerome and Southwestern called the Back Alley and Wharf. Using the free version of Atlas' track planning software I was able to compress and elongate it to the size of the plywood. I'm working on a 2x10 (plus staging) interchange layout.?? A main line going through, a branch line terminating (so I can have a turntable and engine house), and a few local industries.?? A 1900 time frame.?? It's taking forever because I've got too many hobbies! -- "... because this is America. ... And here, right matters.??? Vindman
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Back in the 1990's I had to go to "MODULAR". There was a decent modular group in the Sacramento (Roseville) area so I joined it.
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I was close to retirement.
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In 2000 my wife passed away and I had to move into a "RETIREMENT CLOSET" with no room for a layout.
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So I built a 2X4 ft switching diaroma. It'a an Arizona desert town. One small mie and a cattle yard. Half a dozen town buildings and a small station.
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All Campbell structures.
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Manual switching. DC, NO DCC needed.
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It sits on top of a couple short bookcases.
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Better than no layout!
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Bob Macklin
Seattle, Wa
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Like many model railroaded, I often thought about the 'empire' I would build: locomotive servicing facility, turntable, roundhouse, long mainline through towns and rural areas, branch lines, interchanges, etc., etc.
However, after 30 years of this 'planning', reality set in and I realized this dream layout might not be.
A left over 1x8 foot piece of 1/2 inch plywood from some construction at our house inspired me. I took a track plan from an old issue of Railroad Model Craftsman. It was an extension to John Olsen's Jerome and Southwestern called the Back Alley and Wharf. Using the free version of Atlas' track planning software I was able to compress and elongate it to the size of the plywood.
I kept it simple with manual switch levers and only 2 electrical blocks : the 'mainline' and all the rest. The thought was that in future, I might be able to set up a temporary loop and put the local switcher into a siding, flip the block switch to have a through train come through. Again, to keep it simple, I mounted the power source connector on the fascia.
Having the power connector had an unintentional benefit of allowing me to switch from DC to DCC very easily.?
And so I have been having fun with my revised empire and have been slowly thinning much of my 'stash.
Merry Christmas to all!
Bob Mitchell
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 7:00 PM, Ron Hunt
<btlarea@...> wrote:
Welcome and good luck with your project. Merry Christmas to you and all the members here. Ron On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 1:03 PM Bill Reid < wreidfam@...> wrote: > > I am just arriving to the group. I have been in HOn3 for years but our recent move from a large house to a small townhome forces me to reconsider all my model Railroading to a simple 10' X 20" world. Like so many of you I still have excess kits in-spite of my prior sales on Ebay. I have NCE controls and Sound-Traxx in most of my favorite engines but it seems like the slow - speed SHAY should become the real focus now. Sierra West Kits have fascinated me because of their detail but in living in North Dakota their southern focus (lack of some doors) calls for some modification. Since We grew up in Wisconsin the "Chicago, Milwaukee, & St Paul" was my focus so a branch line is a natural. My interest in Genealogy revealed that 2 generations of my family worked at Fairbanks-Morse so I couldn't resist an early switching engine, so maybe I'll need to reconsider a use of dual- gauge track; so turnout conversions are also in my future. Anyway here I am in my mid-70s with more then enough to keep me busy... > Great to be able to look in on all of you and see how you wrestle with space problems. > Merry Christmas > Bill > >
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Like many model railroaded, I often thought about the 'empire' I would build: locomotive servicing facility, turntable, roundhouse, long mainline through towns and rural areas, branch lines, interchanges, etc., etc. However, after 30 years of this 'planning', reality set in and I realized this dream layout might not be. A left over 1x8 foot piece of 1/2 inch plywood from some construction at our house inspired me. I took a track plan from an old issue of Railroad Model Craftsman. It was an extension to John Olsen's Jerome and Southwestern called the Back Alley and Wharf. Using the free version of Atlas' track planning software I was able to compress and elongate it to the size of the plywood. I kept it simple with manual switch levers and only 2 electrical blocks : the 'mainline' and all the rest. The thought was that in future, I might be able to set up a temporary loop and put the local switcher into a siding, flip the block switch to have a through train come through. Again, to keep it simple, I mounted the power source connector on the fascia. Having the power connector had an unintentional benefit of allowing me to switch from DC to DCC very easily.? And so I have been having fun with my revised empire and have been slowly thinning much of my 'stash. Merry Christmas to all!
On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 7:00 PM, Ron Hunt <btlarea@...> wrote: Welcome and good luck with your project. Merry Christmas to you and all the members here. Ron On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 1:03 PM Bill Reid < wreidfam@...> wrote: > > I am just arriving to the group. I have been in HOn3 for years but our recent move from a large house to a small townhome forces me to reconsider all my model Railroading to a simple 10' X 20" world. Like so many of you I still have excess kits in-spite of my prior sales on Ebay. I have NCE controls and Sound-Traxx in most of my favorite engines but it seems like the slow - speed SHAY should become the real focus now. Sierra West Kits have fascinated me because of their detail but in living in North Dakota their southern focus (lack of some doors) calls for some modification. Since We grew up in Wisconsin the "Chicago, Milwaukee, & St Paul" was my focus so a branch line is a natural. My interest in Genealogy revealed that 2 generations of my family worked at Fairbanks-Morse so I couldn't resist an early switching engine, so maybe I'll need to reconsider a use of dual- gauge track; so turnout conversions are also in my future. Anyway here I am in my mid-70s with more then enough to keep me busy... > Great to be able to look in on all of you and see how you wrestle with space problems. > Merry Christmas > Bill > >
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Welcome and good luck with your project.
Merry Christmas to you and all the members here.
Ron
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On Tue, Dec 24, 2019 at 1:03 PM Bill Reid <wreidfam@...> wrote:
I am just arriving to the group. I have been in HOn3 for years but our recent move from a large house to a small townhome forces me to reconsider all my model Railroading to a simple 10' X 20" world. Like so many of you I still have excess kits in-spite of my prior sales on Ebay. I have NCE controls and Sound-Traxx in most of my favorite engines but it seems like the slow - speed SHAY should become the real focus now. Sierra West Kits have fascinated me because of their detail but in living in North Dakota their southern focus (lack of some doors) calls for some modification. Since We grew up in Wisconsin the "Chicago, Milwaukee, & St Paul" was my focus so a branch line is a natural. My interest in Genealogy revealed that 2 generations of my family worked at Fairbanks-Morse so I couldn't resist an early switching engine, so maybe I'll need to reconsider a use of dual- gauge track; so turnout conversions are also in my future. Anyway here I am in my mid-70s with more then enough to keep me busy...
Great to be able to look in on all of you and see how you wrestle with space problems.
Merry Christmas
Bill
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Hello and Christmas Greetings
I am just arriving to the group. I have been in HOn3 for years but our recent move from a large house to a small townhome forces me to reconsider all my model Railroading to a simple 10' X 20" world. Like so many of you I still have excess kits in-spite of my prior sales on Ebay. I have NCE controls and Sound-Traxx in most of my favorite engines but it seems like the slow - speed SHAY should become the real focus now. Sierra West Kits have fascinated me because of their detail but in living in North Dakota their southern focus (lack of some doors) calls for some modification. Since We grew up in Wisconsin the "Chicago, Milwaukee, & St Paul" was my focus so a branch line is a natural. My interest in Genealogy revealed that 2 generations of my family worked at Fairbanks-Morse so I couldn't resist an early switching engine, so maybe I'll need to reconsider a use of dual- gauge track; so turnout conversions are also in my future. Anyway here I am in my mid-70s with more then enough to keep me busy...
Great to be able to look in on all of you and see how you wrestle with space problems.
Merry Christmas
Bill
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As the owner of the groups I set them up to mirror what was on
the old yahoo groups as that was the easiest way to get everything
transferred over.? I have no intention of changing things at this
time.
Bruce Wilson
Barrie, Ontario, Canada
Life Member NMRA
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On 12/23/2019 5:35 PM, Jim B via
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I know that when this group was first on Yahoo it ran out of space
for the files section, so sldfiles (21 MB, plus 6.9 Photos),
sldfiles2 (17 MB, plus 4.1 Photos), and SLDFiles3 (25 MB plus 88
kB Photos) were created to hold the overflow of files. I believe
we have room to put all those Files and Photos here in this main
group and delete the extra groups. Seems like not everyone that is
a member of this group is a member of the others anyway.? The
messages that came over in those groups were just an automated
monthly posting that are no longer necessary.
Maybe the same for the small-layout-design-photos, although that
is 301 MB, I believe we have 1GB of space for the files and photos
each, or maybe combined?
Any thoughts on this?
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I know that when this group was first on Yahoo it ran out of space for the files section, so sldfiles (21 MB, plus 6.9 Photos), sldfiles2 (17 MB, plus 4.1 Photos), and SLDFiles3 (25 MB plus 88 kB Photos) were created to hold the overflow of files. I believe we have room to put all those Files and Photos here in this main group and delete the extra groups. Seems like not everyone that is a member of this group is a member of the others anyway.? The messages that came over in those groups were just an automated monthly posting that are no longer necessary. Maybe the same for the small-layout-design-photos, although that is 301 MB, I believe we have 1GB of space for the files and photos each, or maybe combined? Any thoughts on this? --
- Jim B.
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Re: Some Micro Layouts I've been working on
On Sun, Dec 22, 2019 at 01:15 AM, Phillip Fimiani wrote:
Love the idea of small micro layouts as you did and connecting them together
Hi all. I should clarify that the small layouts mentioned by Phil are relating more to the various modules on a much larger than micro sized modular layout that is in the process of being dismantled. I am not planning for the Pizza and 4x1 micro layouts that I am currently working on to be connected to each other to be operated as part of a larger layout like the modules in the layout that is being dismantled. I replied directly to Phil regarding his request "Could you go into a little more about how your connect them up, (aligning and wiring?)". I could post my response to how I connected the larger layout's modules together to this group if members are interested but it might be considered to be a little off topic as it's not really about a "small" layout but rather pars of a larger one. Regards, James Culcairn, NSW, Australia
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Visited your website.(3AM!)? Found it very informative and entertaining. I left a reply on your blog.
Australia is a beautiful area.. Been there once.... Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane. Great memories.
Love the idea of small micro layouts as you did and connecting them together. Could you go into a little more about how your connect them up, (aligning and wiring?)
I have an idea for a small n scale layout across a desk area, consisting of 2 2'x4' modules. When needed to be stored one would sit over the top of the other and nest nicely to create a 2'x4' box, keeping the layout dust free when not in use. The backdrops would serve to form the shape of the box. Structural material to be determined...
? Best Regards Phil
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On Sunday, December 22, 2019, 1:12:44 AM EST, Jim <james@...> wrote:
A 600mm x 600mm Pizza layout, and a 1200mm x 300mm (4x1 feet) switching layout based on the "Boxer Shortline" plan.
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Some Micro Layouts I've been working on
A 600mm x 600mm Pizza layout, and a 1200mm x 300mm (4x1 feet) switching layout based on the "Boxer Shortline" plan.
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Having only just joined this group, this was a very sad read. I had the great pleasure of working with Jack on the original Small Layout Design Group, all those many years ago. He was indeed an inspiration, a talented modeller and an ever-so-slightly loony character.
Best wishes to all
Alan Rogers
Merstham, Surrey, UK
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Re: Underground/subway diorama
Jim and Barbara van Gaasbeek
This comment is OT ¨C I had not received an E-Mail from this discussion list since December 13, 2018, and had assumed that the list had gone quiet.? Glad to see that it is alive and well. ? Jim van Gaasbeek ? ?
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Underground/subway diorama
Here's a fantastic new video from the incredibly talented Luke Towan
of an underground/subway station that gives plenty of ideas for a
small/micro layout. It could be adapted to almost any
underground/subway prototype.
This particular dirama is loosely based on Melbourne Central.
Cheers
David
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