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Renaming R-F110 to R-FGC36619

Nigel B All Messages By This Member #15 Larry Brett (Wendy Morse's uncle) and I are currently assigned to haplogroup R-F110.? Most Y-DNA SNPs which are used to define haplogroups have occurred only once in the history of mankind and so can be used to define branches in the Y-DNA family tree without any risk of duplication.? Unfortunately, F110 is not such a SNP: it is a recurrent SNP which has occurred more than once and in more than one branch of the Y-DNA tree.? Until recently other occurrences were not being used for naming haplogroups but that is no longer the case - I have found there is another R-F110 in a different part of the Y-DNA tree (DF21>DSF5 .... but like S16264 also derived from L21+, DF13+).? So I have sent a note to FTDNA pointing this out and suggesting our R-F110 be renamed R-FGC36619 as FGC36619 is unique to Larry's and my branch of the Y-DNA tree.? Hopefully the change will happen within a week or two. Best wishes Nigel P.S. Please post anything you think might be relevant to S16264 research including news of new matches or any new learnings about your Y-DNA ancestral origins.
Wendy Morse All Messages By This Member #16 开云体育 As always, thank you Nigel! toggle quoted message Show quoted text On Oct 10, 2022, at 10:24 AM, Nigel B via groups.io <jnigelbond@...> wrote: ?Larry Brett (Wendy Morse's uncle) and I are currently assigned to haplogroup R-F110.? Most Y-DNA SNPs which are used to define haplogroups have occurred only once in the history of mankind and so can be used to define branches in the Y-DNA family tree without any risk of duplication.? Unfortunately, F110 is not such a SNP: it is a recurrent SNP which has occurred more than once and in more than one branch of the Y-DNA tree.? Until recently other occurrences were not being used for naming haplogroups but that is no longer the case - I have found there is another R-F110 in a different part of the Y-DNA tree (DF21>DSF5 .... but like S16264 also derived from L21+, DF13+).? So I have sent a note to FTDNA pointing this out and suggesting our R-F110 be renamed R-FGC36619 as FGC36619 is unique to Larry's and my branch of the Y-DNA tree.? Hopefully the change will happen within a week or two. Best wishes Nigel P.S. Please post anything you think might be relevant to S16264 research including news of new matches or any new learnings about your Y-DNA ancestral origins.
Nigel B All Messages By This Member #17 Thanks Wendy.? I should also have mentioned Jenny Grillet's Edward Schultz.? He is F110+ but FGC36619- so would remain R-F110 if FTDNA are able to reassign the DF21>DF5 F110's using another of their shared SNPs.? Otherwise Edward Schultz would have to be relabelled R-L679 until more testing is done to identify more recent SNPs he shares with myself and Larry Brett.? That would require BigY700. Kind regards Nigel

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