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How do Decibel Products low band duplexers work?
Ed Bathgate, RMA Repair Dept x8785
I was researching 6 meter band antennas & duplexers, and came across
Decibel Products. They have a design of a duplexer that can do a .5mhz split and its only 30" high. It uses what appears to be 6 tunable paint cans, (???!) and several sets of tuned length coax lines and several coax stubs. I have rebuilt and re tuned a hybrid ring duplexer for 2m, and old sinclair, that looked like 4 scuba tanks and a whole lot of coax. I was intrigued by their design, until I called them and got the $2300 price! Yeowza!! Ok, can I build a similar device? How can they get a small can to do 6 meters? What is inside the 'paint cans'? I already know of the heliax stub duplexer design... I know a fellow who was selling his, it does not work well according to him. I know where I can get paint cans cheap... 73 Ed N3SDO Ed Bathgate RMA Dept (724) 772-8785 pager (412) 649-6773 |
Tedd Doda
Hi Ed:
On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 09:13:37 -0500, Ed Bathgate, RMA Repair Dept x8785 wrote: Ok, can I build a similar device?Probably, as the inside is simple, but look around for a used one. As more and more government/business's get away from the low band, they will become easier to find. How can they get a small can to do 6 meters?Ah...the wonders of helical resonators! You have to remember that these "cans" can only be set up for NOTCHING a frequency, and not PASSING a frequency. Look at any good commercial 2 meter or UHF radio. The small square blocks near the antenna are helical resonators. What is inside the 'paint cans'?A coil of wire (the helix) and a plunger on a threaded rod which tunes the helix to the frequency of choice. I already know of the heliax stub duplexer design...Most of the heliax stubs are 1/4 wave length long, and do basically the same as a helical resonator. The shorted and opened stubs are there for usually the "C" part of the "LC" circuit (creating the "50 ohm" in/out). Tedd Doda CET packet va3sed@va3sed e-mail lazer@... |
John Hackman
The helical resonator/stub lowband duplexers work ... but that's about all
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you can say about them. It is real easy to end up with almost zero transmitter power out to the antenna and a nice, toasty warm duplexer, particularly with 250-400 watt Micor repeaters. They also provide ZERO isolation from interference and intermod-producing signals coming down the antenna line. 30-50 MHz cavities are not real common but can be found - 2 or 3 of those will make a very nice duplexer. TX-RX and Wacom also produce cavity duplexers. Or you can shop the spring garage sales for used hot water heaters and build your own! ......John WB4VVA -----Original Message-----
From: Ed Bathgate, RMA Repair Dept x8785 <ed@...> To: Repeater-builder@... <Repeater-builder@...> Date: Thursday, March 18, 1999 9:14 AM Subject: [Repeater-builder] How do Decibel Products low band duplexers work? From: "Ed Bathgate, RMA Repair Dept x8785" <ed@...> |
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