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Duplexer for amateur 70-cm band
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? I don’t have one to test, I’m a bit suspicious of any duplexer of that design that claims to work across such a wide frequency range (406-500 MHz).? For starters, the interconnect cable lengths would naturally need to be varied across such a wide range to avoid degradation at frequencies far-removed from the optimum center.? Then, the tuning of those resonators is done by loading them at the hot end via slugs.? Generally the more loading, the lower the Q, so I’d be particularly concerned about performance at the low end of the 蝉辫别肠’别诲 range.? If anyone has one of these units surplus and would be willing to loan or sell it, I’ll put it through its paces on the VNA. ? A comparable, and very common, 6-cavity “mobile” UHF duplexer was the RFS/Celwave 633 series.? Those would typically do about 90 dB notch depth when used within its 蝉辫别肠’别诲 range at a 5 MHz split.? RFS used to OEM the 633 for Motorola as well (TDE-7780A was the 450-470 model), but RFS no longer manufacturers them.? ? Attached is a sweep of a 450-470 MHz model 633-6A-2 operating “in band” (GMRS) that should give you an idea of what to expect; I’m not saying that the Motorola/Combilent DSCP10725 will perform the same, just giving you an example of a similar unit.? The ham-band version covered 406-450 MHz (model 633-6A-1), I have a few of those NIB if you want me to sweep one. ? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? --- Jeff WN3A ? |
开云体育I do know these can be had for much less than the nearly $400.00 I see that one going for. ? Gregg Wardlow ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Karl Shoemaker via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2025 12:18 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [repeater-builder] Duplexer for amateur 70-cm band ? Anyone know if this is an okay one for 5 MHz spilt? ? I need at least 80db of notch (isolation) Supposedly, it's a Moto. I'm shopping for one.? -- - |
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for myself personally those have always worked very well. No issues with desense.?? jonnny? kf6phx
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Karl Shoemaker via groups.io <srg734@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 8, 2025 9:17 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [repeater-builder] Duplexer for amateur 70-cm band ?
Anyone know if this is an okay one for 5 MHz spilt? ? I need at least 80db of notch (isolation) Supposedly, it's a Moto. I'm shopping for one.?
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Regards, Karl Shoemaker To contact me, please visit SRG's web site at? for the current email address. |
Basic NOTCH ONLY duplexer.
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Yes you can get -80+ with careful tuning. Very popular with most two-way shops that are selling simple on-site systems. Milt N3LTQ Quoting "Karl Shoemaker via groups.io" <srg734@...>: Anyone know if this is an okay one for 5 MHz spilt? ? I need at least 80db of notch (isolation) Supposedly, it's a Moto. I'm shopping for one. |
Yup, Jeff, that was my suspecition as well; reason I reached out.? Thanks guys for the input. I'll keep looking. It's for our new fusion repeater at a site that has little population in these bands. It's mainly an ISP site. Untill we get better funds and buy a real duplexer, BpBr, etc.
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- Regards, Karl Shoemaker To contact me, please visit SRG's web site at? for the current email address. |
Yep...I have several myself...I can part with one if need be Chris WB5ITT On Tue, Apr 8, 2025, 4:26 PM Mike via <prcradio=[email protected]> wrote:
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Search for a Motorola T1504. These are plentiful, and should be in the under $200 price range. They are a true BpBr duplexer, and are great performers. Lots of info on line regarding configuration, tuning, etc. 73, Kevin, K9HX On Thu, Apr 10, 2025 at 12:41?AM Karl Shoemaker via <srg734=[email protected]> wrote:
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I agree.? They are false economy.? The only protection that they give the receiver from transmitter power is a very sharp notch.? Burn up the teflon, loose the notch tuning, and you have the chance of the up to 50 watts getting back into your receiver.
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On 4/10/2025 10:38 AM, Harold Farrenkopf via groups.io wrote:
Mobile compact duplexers are for low power use at best. ?They burn up if used for continuous repeater transmission and high power. ?I’ve seen 50 watts burn up the teflon end dielectric tuning screw supports. |