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Krystaly Rocks for MSR2000


Eric Grabowski
 

Does anyone have experience with having Krystaly make crystals for KXN1086B and KXN1088A channel elements?

The reply I received from them asked for additional information like whether the crystals are intended for serial or parallel resonance and other specific parameters. This raised a red flag in my mind as to whether I want to give them a try even if their price might be lower than Quartslab.

I received a quote from Quartslab for $67.61 per crystal, which I thought was a bit high, however they did know the crystal specs.

73 and aloha, Eric KH6CQ


 

I recall recently that someone here was going to place an order with them and let us know their luck??
Is that person reading this please??

Jerry VE3EXT

On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 at 15:42, Eric Grabowski via <ejgrabowski=[email protected]> wrote:
Does anyone have experience with having Krystaly make crystals for KXN1086B and KXN1088A channel elements?

The reply I received from them asked for additional information like whether the crystals are intended for serial or parallel resonance and other specific parameters. This raised a red flag in my mind as to whether I want to give them a try even if their price might be lower than Quartslab.

I received a quote from Quartslab for $67.61 per crystal, which I thought was a bit high, however they did know the crystal specs.

73 and aloha, Eric KH6CQ


 

At 2/17/2021 01:31 PM, you wrote:
I recall recently that someone here was going to place an order with them and let us know their luck??
Is that person reading this please??
Yes I am reading this. No I haven't received the crystals yet. They did ship a couple of days ago, so should have them soon. Will let you know how they work.

Bob NO6B


Eric Grabowski
 

Bob,

Were the ones you ordered for Motorola gear?

On Wednesday, February 17, 2021, 11:57:40 AM HST, Bob Dengler <no6b@...> wrote:


At 2/17/2021 01:31 PM, you wrote:
>I recall recently that someone here was going to place an order with them and let us know their luck??
>Is that person reading this please??

Yes I am reading this.? No I haven't received the crystals yet.? They did ship a couple of days ago, so should have them soon.? Will let you know how they work.

Bob NO6B







 

tnx Bob for the update
jerry VE3EXT

On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 at 16:57, Bob Dengler <no6b@...> wrote:
At 2/17/2021 01:31 PM, you wrote:
>I recall recently that someone here was going to place an order with them and let us know their luck??
>Is that person reading this please??

Yes I am reading this.? No I haven't received the crystals yet.? They did ship a couple of days ago, so should have them soon.? Will let you know how they work.

Bob NO6B







 

Sounds like a Krystaly is crystal manufacture not familar with making crystals for radios, like ones for other applications like filters.? They are asking for the details of the crystal cut.? 2-wy radio crystal manufs know what to make from model of the radio.?? And at $67 is high price.

Try Bomar in NJ, 800-526-3935.? The now charge $50/xtal.?

All you tell them is you need xtal fo MSR2000 or channel element numbers, the actual freq, 147.39, 442.65 rcv or xmt, and give them ship to address and credit card.? Bomar no longer temp comp ch elements, just make the crystal to spec of Motorola.? Bomar does make an excellent 2-way radio xtal.

73, ron, n9ee/r


 

At 2/17/2021 02:06 PM, you wrote:
Bob,

Were the ones you ordered for Motorola gear?
No, they're TX xtals for G.E. MVPs.

Bob NO6B


 

At 2/18/2021 10:11 AM, you wrote:
Sounds like a Krystaly is crystal manufacture not familar with making crystals for radios, like ones for other applications like filters. They are asking for the details of the crystal cut. 2-wy radio crystal manufs know what to make from model of the radio. And at $67 is high price.
$67 is QuartSLab, not Krystaly. Krystaly is less than half that price.


Try Bomar in NJ, 800-526-3935. The now charge $50/xtal.
Bomar crystals are junk: have had several of their crystals fail over the past 3 years. in 40+ years I've never seen such incompetence from a crystal manufacturer.

Bob NO6B


 

On 2/18/2021 1:46 PM, Bob Dengler wrote:

Bomar crystals are junk:

Yea buddy.? They sure as hell can't make a crystal for a FM channel element - GE or Motorola.? Their "Engineer" David Miskov is a joke.

Scott and I have spent thousands of dollars with Bomar years ago before the people that really knew how to build them retired.? All of their stuff in the last 5 years is junk - period.

Kevin


Eric Grabowski
 

I have to agree with Bob and Kevin. My past experience with Bomar has been awful.

With respect to Quartslab, maybe crystals for GE are less expensive than for Motorola. The quote I received for the Motorola elements was almost twice what Skipp paid for his GE elements. That or else business is booming and the price is rising in response to increased demand.

73 and aloha, Eric KH6CQ

On Thursday, February 18, 2021, 9:05:56 AM HST, Kevin Custer <kuggie@...> wrote:


On 2/18/2021 1:46 PM, Bob Dengler wrote:
>
> Bomar crystals are junk:


Yea buddy.? They sure as hell can't make a crystal for a FM channel
element - GE or Motorola.? Their "Engineer" David Miskov is a joke.

Scott and I have spent thousands of dollars with Bomar years ago before
the people that really knew how to build them retired.? All of their
stuff in the last 5 years is junk - period.

Kevin








 

In had a set of Crystals made for my HT-220 from QuartSLab and they were $82 including shipping from the UK. Beautifully made and they have all the specs for Motorola radios. I installed them last weekend and they netted fine and work great.


 

At 2/18/2021 12:40 PM, you wrote:
I have to agree with Bob and Kevin. My past experience with Bomar has been awful.

With respect to Quartslab, maybe crystals for GE are less expensive than for Motorola. The quote I received for the Motorola elements was almost twice what Skipp paid for his GE elements. That or else business is booming and the price is rising in response to increased demand.
QuartSLab prices for G.E. xtals went up over 70% in just 18 months, & that was as of a month ago. Maybe they went up another 20% since then?

Bob NO6B


 

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I paid 46.76 pounds for the TX and RX VHF MSR2000 crystals with shipping on 9/42/2019.? Len k4lfk


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob Dengler <no6b@...>
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 5:24 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] Krystaly Rocks for MSR2000
?
At 2/18/2021 12:40 PM, you wrote:
>I have to agree with Bob and Kevin. My past experience with Bomar has been awful.
>
>With respect to Quartslab, maybe crystals for GE are less expensive than for Motorola. The quote I received for the Motorola elements was almost twice what Skipp paid for his GE elements. That or else business is booming and the price is rising in response to increased demand.

QuartSLab prices for G.E. xtals went up over 70% in just 18 months, & that was as of a month ago.? Maybe they went up another 20% since then?

Bob NO6B







 

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The correct date was 9/24/ 2019.? Len k4lfk


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of k4lfk <k4lfk@...>
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 5:34 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] Krystaly Rocks for MSR2000
?
I paid 46.76 pounds for the TX and RX VHF MSR2000 crystals with shipping on 9/42/2019.? Len k4lfk


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bob Dengler <no6b@...>
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 5:24 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] Krystaly Rocks for MSR2000
?
At 2/18/2021 12:40 PM, you wrote:
>I have to agree with Bob and Kevin. My past experience with Bomar has been awful.
>
>With respect to Quartslab, maybe crystals for GE are less expensive than for Motorola. The quote I received for the Motorola elements was almost twice what Skipp paid for his GE elements. That or else business is booming and the price is rising in response to increased demand.

QuartSLab prices for G.E. xtals went up over 70% in just 18 months, & that was as of a month ago.? Maybe they went up another 20% since then?

Bob NO6B







 

I have used many many Bomar crystals over the years and they worked very well, not seen a failure.? Did get one for 6m not on freq, claimed did not calculate base freq out to needed decimal and they replaced quickly, that was years ago.? I've purchased over 100 crystals from Bomar.

73, ron, n9ee/r


 

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The last two Bomar crystals I got had problems. I never went back. I can't recall exactly when this was, but it was shortly before International went out. International was my last crystal purchase, maybe a few months before they closed.

Chuck
WB2EDV




On 2/20/2021 6:27 PM, Ron Wright via groups.io wrote:

I have used many many Bomar crystals over the years and they worked very well, not seen a failure.? Did get one for 6m not on freq, claimed did not calculate base freq out to needed decimal and they replaced quickly, that was years ago.? I've purchased over 100 crystals from Bomar.

73, ron, n9ee/r


 

expensive crystals but great radio that made..love the crisp audio on the HT220

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From: geek dad <geek.dad@...>
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Sent: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 06:47:23 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Re: [repeater-builder] Krystaly Rocks for MSR2000

In had a set of Crystals made for my HT-220 from QuartSLab and they were $82 including shipping from the UK. Beautifully made and they have all the specs for Motorola radios. I installed them last weekend and they netted fine and work great.