Repeater Builder

Re: 147.06

Robby.roberson@... (Robby) — Sat, 05 Apr 2025 07:45:49 -0700

Hey Chris how can i get in contact with you instead of here

Re: 147.06

setxtelecom@... (Chris Boone WB5ITT) — Sat, 05 Apr 2025 07:42:46 -0700

I am a twice BoD and a former coordinator of the TX VHF FM Society...life member since 1977....and it's gone downhill...they are coordinating 10k splinters on 2m YET the membership, as required by the by-laws,didn't vote on it..

Several of us life members are looking into a class action suit as well as filing a complaint with the Texas Secretary of State.. which as a non profit in Texas it has to answer to..

Tnx for the good thoughts and words

Chris WB5ITT

224.5, 444.5, 927.15

Trustee W5APX 146.94 and 146.96

Re: 147.06

Sat, 05 Apr 2025 07:33:23 -0700

Chris,

Just remember that you are doing a good thing for some hams that use your system and that is a positive.

The fact that no good deed goes unpunished, is something we must look past and concentrate on the Positives we do.

In the big scheme of things, the whiners spend much of their time whining and saying what somebody should do.

They never dream of getting to work and doing it themselves. So, Thanks for what you and I and lots of other Hams that

own, pay for and maintain repeaters, do for people that use our systems for FREE and constantly discuss what needs to be improved or fixed on our systems.

Someday maybe I’ll tell you about my time as a frequency coordinator!

Keep up the good work!

Mike

NI4M 146.940 FL

Re: Attempting to program a Maxon SM2150. Looking for proper prog cable. Have software.

maxwelloau@... (maxwelloau) — Sat, 05 Apr 2025 07:32:22 -0700

Checkout the files section. Note: none of this is verified and YMMV, I don't have this radio! Just interest in such things and late night technical ramblings.

A check of the Service manual SM-2000 and it appears when the CPU puts the radio in programming mode (as per the programming manual) it switches over three lines IC412 4053.

DO, DI and SK from their normal functions on the 6pin RJ MIC connector , PTT, Mic and Hanger. CS is also needed for 93C46 EEProm is present on the Mic connector.

Tried the software SMP4004C in Dosbox-x and boy I miss the simple DOS programs, that actually work in a small amount of code.

Just don't know how they generate the SK = serial clock pulses. The SMP2000 cable looks like a 9pin D to the 6 pin mic plug. Maybe worth a CRO look at the pins when trying to program to determine if there is a clock pulse there somewhere! CCT also shows an 8 pin socket inside the radio with same programing pins.

Otherwise?

Then as a last resort I found Maxon PM100 V2 Programming page to directly read the EEProm and be able to write data from the software back into it. Again all care and no responsibility!

Programming the Maxon SM-4150M or the GE Monogram Mobile Radios might be useful information too.

/Can only say good luck mate.

Maxwelloau VK5AC.

Re: insulation shoulder washer

srg734@... (Karl Shoemaker) — Sat, 05 Apr 2025 06:46:59 -0700

After two years they have not provided a clickable link from their main page. They call them "bushings" but I get a different page that what he posted.

But yea, I'm used to the "as your favorite monopoly" since I'm a windows clone. I think you were thinking about amazon, which I do a lot of shopping. They are sooo handy.

Thanks again for the tip :)

Pasted text:

"The shoulder washer (they call it a bushing) that I saw, and no their website isn't as easy as your favorite monopoly but it's the right product and the price is right in quantities of 100...
http://seiscoanchors.com/catalog/BUSHINGS/cwdata/sp865357.html
the parent page http://seiscoanchors.com/catalog/BUSHINGS/bushings.html"

Also, I noticed by adding attachments here on this Group it strips off the parentheses "( )" (file name change). Strange. At least it appears this way (logging in the site).

Perhaps the "email" way (that most folks use) keeps them? I'll have to ask Kevin some day if that's an anti-spam thing.

I should add this vender on the "tower" page for SRG. They are nice to work with. All orders are either emailed and/or phoned in. Gee, what a concept people actually talk to each other :)

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Regards, Karl Shoemaker
To contact me, please visit SRG's web site at http://www.srgclub.org
for the current email address.

Re: 147.06

setxtelecom@... (Chris Boone WB5ITT) — Sat, 05 Apr 2025 05:27:01 -0700

Naw....I have my 146.94 just down the road.....higher and better coverage......the 147.06 is owned by DOW (formerly Dupont) but they moved it off the plant property without approval...and put it on a tower built by DPS.....how they got on it is anyone's guess....originally it was a Kenwood TKR750....the wideband filter went out so instead of changing it, they put it in NB mode.....that was some smart thinking there.....noone was told it was NB......then they changed it to a YSF rptr...but no internet at the site...and that junk Yaesu has issues.....Nope, I don't want the hassles...but considering the good ole boy network around here, I'll just keep to my systems...of course, as N5CIE told me once at a QCWA lunch, they are jealous of my operation....I don't care.....the clubs are being run by controlling ex CBers now spreading rumors about me....our ARRL DEC made a statement at a club meeting once that TX and Louisiana cops can't talk to each other...WOW....guess he never read NIFOG...and the amount of interop channels on V/U/7/800 LOL!!!! What a dunce...20-30 yrs ago we all worked together and helped each other....now, if you aren't part of the cliche, you're a "shady" character (YES they said that about me.....) Last night at the club meeting they talked about putting Allstar on two rptrs here in the area....I've had it on mine for 4 yrs..(copying is the highest form of flattery I guess)...BUT the other sites don't have internet (they COULD install it there), so they plan to use remote radios at residential locations to talk to the rptr .....20:1 they won't do it legal (ID on the uplink, not send CT or IDs over the downlink and out Allstar)......I have internet at my site....the Pi4 is plugged into a port on the RLC controller so I have multiple ways to control, split it off, etc....I mentioned at one other club meeting a year ago they should just get internet at a site that has a YSF (they keep talking about doing a wireless link back to a site for that; thats been 4 years now)....it never has been done and the club has $6000 in the treasury.....they could get ATT or a hotspot from T Mobile or Verison at residential rates...Nope...they didnt think of it so they arent going to do it.....and of course all the YSFs here are standalone....wow.....that's a great use of them...LOL

Re: 147.06

wa3gin@... (Dave Jordan) — Sat, 05 Apr 2025 05:05:36 -0700

Maybe you should volunteer to be the new trustee!

Good luck,

dave

wa3gin

Re: F/S TPL PA6-1AE UHF amp

setxtelecom@... (Chris Boone WB5ITT) — Sat, 05 Apr 2025 04:08:17 -0700

Again, if you are REALLY worried, the TPLs were designed to be 50ohms between stages so you can bypass the PREdriverr and put higher RF into the remaining stages...this would allow the Kenwood to run at 10watts and you have a stable output...

But whatever works for you....

Later

Chris WB5ITT

Re: 147.06

setxtelecom@... (Chris Boone WB5ITT) — Sat, 05 Apr 2025 03:28:57 -0700

Sorry for the bandwidth.......accidentally posted here instead of a local group...realized after I sent it this was NOT the group it was intended for...

Chris

On Sat, Apr 5, 2025 at 05:27 AM, Chris Boone WB5ITT wrote:

147.06

setxtelecom@... (Chris Boone WB5ITT) — Sat, 05 Apr 2025 03:27:07 -0700

Last night at the Orange Club meeting, I saw another testament to the dumbing down of America and ham radio.....

The question was asked why the 147.06 rptr was down and the answer given was "It was down for maintenance"....I could not believe my ears....at the end of the meeting I walked to the new ham who made that statement and looked him in the eye and said "Nice LIE...its off because the license expired a month ago and it was still on the air illegally..." He replied yep....

WTH??? You have to LIE about something like that??? Hell, I forgot to file the renewal on my AM station in Lumberton and finally got it done the DAY before it expired....I got hit with a $1500 fine from the FCC....and that was it.....I didn't lie, I FORGOT......and paid the fine and moved on....didn't hurt anyone and didn't affect my standing with the FCC...

SO WHY THE HELL did this lie about 147.06 come up?? Too arrogant to admit the trustee (who lives in Groves and the 06 rptr is NOT part of the Orange Club) forgot to file the renewal? They didn't want to look stupid??? They think they can pull the wool over people's eyes?? WTH???

TELL THE TRUTH.....

But they won't

I just did.......

Re: Kenwood NXR 810 repeater

tomcole1@... (Tom Cole) — Fri, 04 Apr 2025 17:59:06 -0700

Bob,

I use a USB to DB9 adapter, then a standard modem cable (DB9 to DB25). Works great for both the Kenwood repeaters and the ARCOM controller.

Tom

KI5ELV

Re: Where did db Products go?

no6b@... (Bob Dengler) — Fri, 04 Apr 2025 17:51:58 -0700

At 4/4/2025 05:37 PM, you wrote:

By the way the proper spelling should be Decibel Products and db Spectra "claims" they carry them, which was my source of confusion. I'll stay with Comscope.

Best to refer to them as Decibel Products as there are a lot of DB Products cos. out there, including one I once bought switches from:

< https://www.ebay.com/itm/282798709874>

Bob NO6B

Re: Kenwood NXR 810 repeater

no6b@... (Bob Dengler) — Fri, 04 Apr 2025 17:49:15 -0700

At 4/4/2025 04:09 PM, you wrote:

That would work too but the only time that connection is absolutely necessary is when uploading firmware to the repeater (same as the TKRs). Otherwise, the DB25 on the back panel is fine (straight through, non null modem connection)

Ken

Ahh I see: Kenwood was smart & made the serial pins the same as the standard DB-25 serial connection. But since they stopped putting DB-25s on PCs about 30 years ago I don't have DB-25 serial cables anymore. I do happen to have some DE-9 to DB-25 adapters that I haven't thrown out yet; guess they're good for something now.

Bob NO6B

Re: Where did db Products go?

srg734@... (Karl Shoemaker) — Fri, 04 Apr 2025 17:37:41 -0700

By the way the proper spelling should be Decibel Products and db Spectra "claims" they carry them, which was my source of confusion. I'll stay with Comscope.

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Regards, Karl Shoemaker
To contact me, please visit SRG's web site at http://www.srgclub.org
for the current email address.

Attempting to program a Maxon SM2150. Looking for proper prog cable. Have software.

w7trh@... (TIM HARDY) — Fri, 04 Apr 2025 17:32:56 -0700

---------- Original Message ----------

From: "TIM HARDY via groups.io" <w7trh@...>

To: [email protected]

Date: 04/04/2025 4:02 PM PDT

Subject: [repeater-builder] Attempting to program a Maxon SM2150. Looking for proper prog cable. Have software.

Attempting to program a Maxon SM2150. I have software but having a tough time locating a programming cable.

The information I find tells me the SM 2000 series requires Maxon SMP 2000 programming cable.

I'm prepared to purchase a cable (or borrow).

It is my understanding that the prog. cable plugs into the mike socket (RJ). My SM 2150 has a 15 pin connector directly above the +12 VDC wires. Would this be a prog. connection? I have no info on this connector. Having the rear connector confuses things.

I'm not certain whether the radio programs thru the mic. connector or the rear connector. If the rear connector is for programming, then the SMP2000 would be an incorrect cable.

Hopefully someone will have an answer.

Tim

AE7TH

Vashon Is. Wa.

Re: Where did db Products go?

srg734@... (Karl Shoemaker) — Fri, 04 Apr 2025 17:29:59 -0700

Alright ! It's Comscope (one m). I needed to sort my files/vender and which folder (name) to make it on my PC.

My HDD on my PC crashed hard last fall so, I lost a lot of files; since dummy here, did not performed backups. There was a huge gouge in the two top platters of this 1 TB drive. Yike's !

Now, I'm on to finding those cool insulation washers Doug pointed me to.

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Regards, Karl Shoemaker
To contact me, please visit SRG's web site at http://www.srgclub.org
for the current email address.

Re: F/S TPL PA6-1AE UHF amp

chad.nelson71@... (Chad Nelson) — Fri, 04 Apr 2025 17:26:57 -0700

Thanks, Joanne I agree

Chad Nelson WI9HF/WRPL979

Janesville Wisconsin

608-754-8671

Send from my spectrum iPhone 16.

220Mhz ACSB amplifier

wz5tx@... (Tyler- WZ5TX) — Fri, 04 Apr 2025 17:15:56 -0700

I have a few of these LMM 220 amplifiers.

I drive it with .05w and it gives me 113W or so output. From the analyzer it looks very clean.

Of course these amps were not made for FM.
I have seen a few past posts where people would talk about these and several are in use, but there is only one post where someone said to bypass a capacitor to use on fm. No mention what cap he is referring to. For those who are familiar with this amp, enlighten me on your expirence or knowledge.

It would be real nice to convert the exciter and receiver to fm! That’s fairyland thinking��

73 WZ5TX

Re: F/S TPL PA6-1AE UHF amp

jburkleo@... (Joe Burkleo) — Fri, 04 Apr 2025 17:01:43 -0700

Chad,

I think you have made the correct decision.

Glad Ken chimed in also. Ken is a Kenwood dealer and also sold TPL amps back in the day. I have purchased several TKR-750 and 850's from him and a few TPL amps as well.

Do like Ken suggested, start at 1 watt and bump it up until you are where you want to be for power out. Once you get to that point, have your guy look at it on a spectrum analyzer to make sure the amp is happy.

Joe - WA7JAW

Re: Kenwood NXR 810 repeater

ken@... (Ken Arck AH6LE) — Fri, 04 Apr 2025 16:09:56 -0700

That would work too but the only time that connection is absolutely necessary is when uploading firmware to the repeater (same as the TKRs). Otherwise, the DB25 on the back panel is fine (straight through, non null modem connection)

Ken

At 04:03 PM 4/4/2025, you wrote: