Re: MSF 5000 programming question
Thought of what?
Inquiring minds want to know why you did not quote enough of the
message your are replying to so that you
can make sense of your reply.
Yahoo does not deliver messages in the order received.
73
Glenn
WB4UIV
Thanks - I should have thought of that.
Tom?
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Re: Flatpack with horrible insertion loss
So I double checked, and I should have thought about this before, but the frequency response looks ok for which side is high and which side is low given the roll off of the 'pass' frequency. So the label with the frequencies was indeed incorrect, but the 'low' / 'high' label was ok, which is what I was using for the 'pass' reference.
Note the attachment of the 'low' side. Notice how much the notch is encroaching on my pass frequency.
If I go to 7Mhz split, then its not as bad. Its like this notch filter was not designed for this kind of split... yet it was sold for 5Mhz split.
-J
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Re: Flatpack with horrible insertion loss
The LOW side would be tuned to reject the higher frequency and corresponds to the label IF the notch was tuned to the 467 frequency. The HIGH side would reject the 462 frequency.
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Re: Flatpack with horrible insertion loss [1 Attachment]
The split is the same as factory...just a few Khz down. You sure the high and low sides didn't get swapped? The labels and the frequencies don't match - high is low, and low is high, in the pic you posted. --- Jeff WN3A
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Re: Flatpack with horrible insertion loss
Looking at the photo, I think the sides are reversed. Compare the frequencies to the "High" and "Low" labels. ---In Repeater-Builder@..., <jeremy_georges@...> wrote : Folks, I have an old eBay Chinese flat pack that I put on the bench to tune for a temporary use repeater. I can notch it down to 90dB just fine. But the insertion loss is horrible. I'm getting around 5dB of loss. I thought something was wrong with the SA/Tracking Generator and plugged it in to the service monitor to test before/after power output and sure enough, 5.4dB insertion loss. SWR is horrible for the actual pass frequency. I don't think this got dropped (at least not that I know of). I hate to bash a cheap mobile duplexer from China, but I wondering if this has been other's experience of these knock off brand mobile duplexers? The split is the same as factory...just a few Khz down. Both sides are within a dB of each other. -J
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Re: Flatpack with horrible insertion loss
Could the high side and low side be reversed? Maybe it came wrong from China. ---In Repeater-Builder@..., <jeremy_georges@...> wrote : Folks, I have an old eBay Chinese flat pack that I put on the bench to tune for a temporary use repeater. I can notch it down to 90dB just fine. But the insertion loss is horrible. I'm getting around 5dB of loss. I thought something was wrong with the SA/Tracking Generator and plugged it in to the service monitor to test before/after power output and sure enough, 5.4dB insertion loss. SWR is horrible for the actual pass frequency. I don't think this got dropped (at least not that I know of). I hate to bash a cheap mobile duplexer from China, but I wondering if this has been other's experience of these knock off brand mobile duplexers? The split is the same as factory...just a few Khz down. Both sides are within a dB of each other. -J
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Re: Flatpack with horrible insertion loss
I should add that if I increase the split, then things look better (although not great). If I go with a 7Mhz split, I can get the insertion loss down to about 2dB and the VSWR looks good.
The only other thing I haven't tried yet, is to change the High and low side. Maybe they miss labeled at factory? I don't see how that will make a different since these cans should be symmetrical.
-J
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Flatpack with horrible insertion loss
Folks, I have an old eBay Chinese flat pack that I put on the bench to tune for a temporary use repeater. I can notch it down to 90dB just fine. But the insertion loss is horrible. I'm getting around 5dB of loss. I thought something was wrong with the SA/Tracking Generator and plugged it in to the service monitor to test before/after power output and sure enough, 5.4dB insertion loss. SWR is horrible for the actual pass frequency. I don't think this got dropped (at least not that I know of). I hate to bash a cheap mobile duplexer from China, but I wondering if this has been other's experience of these knock off brand mobile duplexers? The split is the same as factory...just a few Khz down. Both sides are within a dB of each other. -J
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Re: MSF 5000 programming question
Too bad he don't live close to me I have 2 analog eprom rx trays, 3 computer programmable?MSF5000 for sale. Also a MSR2000 vhf base unit complete.
From: "'Der Fragalemeister : The O'le Tron Herder' DWFComm@... [Repeater-Builder]" <Repeater-Builder@...>
To: Repeater-Builder@...
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSF 5000 programming question
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Long time on mine as well,but I think it is in the menu for PL or DPL selection in the Frequency/channel area. Just turn off both PL and DPL in the selection line...I think..
?DWF
In a message dated 9/17/2018 8:19:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, Repeater-Builder@... writes:
Thanks - I should have thought of that.
Tom
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Re: MSF 5000 programming question
Der Fragalemeister : The O'le Tron Herder
Long time on mine as well,but I think it is in the menu for PL or DPL selection in the Frequency/channel area. Just turn off both PL and DPL in the selection line...I think..
?DWF
In a message dated 9/17/2018 8:19:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, Repeater-Builder@... writes:
Thanks - I should have thought of that.
Tom
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Hi James, ? We have use a Mirage 100W base station amplifier tune down to 60W with fan on the heat sink to keep cool. ? We had problem at first we the logic part of the Amp when we first bought it used, but never after the fix. ? Best of luck with you search. ? Best 73 Carl VA2CMB ARAI the VE2REH Network Cantley Qu¨¦bec Canada ? De?: Repeater-Builder@... [mailto:Repeater-Builder@...]
·¡²Ô±¹´Ç²â¨¦?: 16 septembre 2018 11:11
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Objet?: [Repeater-Builder] 220 MHz amplifier ? ? Good morning,
This question is for all the 220 MHz repeater owners on the list.
We have a 25W repeater and would like to add an amplifier as it hears much better than its transmit coverage. Our exciter output is variable from 1 to 25 Watts. Our antenna is a DB224-JJ.
What type of amplifier are you using? I¡¯m really looking for options other than Henry and TE Systems but not seeing very many.
James Adkins, KB0NHX
Repeater Trustee - Nixa Amateur Radio Club, Inc (K0NXA)
www.nixahams.net
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Re: DB-224E HARNESS WANTED..
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-------- Original message -------- From: kerry <kerry@...> Date: 9/17/18 10:08 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Repeater-Builder <Repeater-Builder@...> Subject: DB-224E HARNESS WANTED..
Does anyone know where I can get a new phasing harness for my commscope db-224e antenna?? I realize the company has no replacement parts for it.? Thought someone might have one kicking around or know some other outlet where it might be available. ..tnx Kerry, wa2nan kerry@...
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Does anyone know where I can get a new phasing harness for my commscope db-224e antenna?? I realize the company has no replacement parts for it.? Thought someone might have one kicking around or know some other outlet where it might be available. ..tnx Kerry, wa2nan kerry@...
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Re: MSF 5000 programming question
Yes, I believe there is.? I think you can select "CSQ", or something similar... but it's been so long since I programmed mine, I seriously can't remember where the selection is.
Mark - N9WYS? Sent from the Yahoo Mail app on my Galaxy Note 8. Please excuse all typos - fat fingers on a little keyboard....
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 19:35, gtmarshall108@... [Repeater-Builder] wrote:
Is there a way to program the code plug so that there is no PL tone transmitted?
Tom Marshall AA1SM
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Re: ID Motorola Channel Elements
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From: "MILCOMMOGUY@... [Repeater-Builder]"
To: Repeater-Builder@...
Sent: Monday, September 17, 2018 10:56 AM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Re: ID Motorola Channel Elements
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Re: MSF 5000 programming question
Thanks - I should have thought of that.
Tom?
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On 9/16/18 11:10 AM, James Adkins adkins.james@... [Repeater-Builder] wrote: This question is for all the 220 MHz repeater owners on the list.
We have a 25W repeater and would like to add an amplifier as it hears much
better than its transmit coverage. Our exciter output is variable from 1
to 25 Watts. Our antenna is a DB224-JJ.
What type of amplifier are you using? I¡¯m really looking for options other
than Henry and TE Systems but not seeing very many. I use TE systems, as Henry has failed me before. Henry also takes some time to actually get them, and power falls off as they warm up. The TE systems desktop amp with a good fan has worked well for us, but they do offer the continuous duty option too. TE can operate in a linear mode too. One of the things I didn't care for with TE systems was they jacked the price up when I went to order. We'd got the approval of our board for what was listed on their website plus shipping. When I ordered I was told it would be about 75 dollars more as "we've not touched the website in 10 years, and prices have gone up". I'm sure I could have made a thing about it, but it's just typical old ham mentality. BTW if you need a circulator or BPF for 220, hit me up. 73's -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice
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Re: Looking for contact info for Mike Perryman K5JMP
Mike remember a hurricane just went thru there he might be out of power and don't have a computer connection at this time.
From: "M M wa6ilq@... [Repeater-Builder]"
To: ! mailing list Repeater-Builder
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2018 7:54 PM
Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Looking for contact info for Mike Perryman K5JMP
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As the subject line says, I'm looking to contact
Mike Perryman K5JMP in the Virginia area.
The info I had is no longer any good, and the email
address on QRZ doesn't bounce, but no response.
And trying k5jmp@... (the contact email address
on his QRZ web page) results in a bounce...
Thanks in advance
Mike WA6ILQ
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Re: ID Motorola Channel Elements
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Re: MSF 5000 programming question
At 03:34 PM 9/15/18 +0000, you wrote: Is there a way to program the code plug so that there is no PL tone
transmitted? You can set both RX and TX to be CSQ, according to both - the help files - and the test I just did in the program, with an archived codeplug. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Adam -
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Carl Beaudry
n9wys