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Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP
 

I have a Mobile rig tuned to 52.525
looking for pinouts for power etc.
the only info i have on it is
GE MA/E-16W
Issue 0
Option AT2
Filing type set 23A

and on the inside is
4ER24B2 Rev B
4ET23A13 Rev A
can anybody help with this old rig


Brent DeSalvo (KF4TNP)

ICQ UIN# : 17430698
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Re: GE MASTER II Low BAND

Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP
 

OK THE PL Numbers are
Exciter = PL19D416659G8 Rev J
Receiver = PL19D416478G3 Rev B
PA = PL19D417927G3 Rev C


Duane Hall wrote:

From: "Duane Hall" <Duane@...>

If the icom you took out is factory GE and is on 40.76 MHz, then you are
trying to take it out of spec.
I could confirm the model, what part numbers are visible?

Low band Mastr II's had the frequency ranges of 36 to 42 MHz or 42 to 50
MHz with the exception of the IMTS version which is 30-36 Tx 42-50 Rx

I'm not sure what mods will be needed to stretch it another 3.24 MHz.

Anyone?

----- Original Message -----
From: Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP <Bug1@...>
To: <repeater-builder@...>; <repeater@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 6:50 PM
Subject: [Repeater-builder] GE MASTER II Low BAND

From: Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP <Bug1@...>

How can i identify what split my GE MASTER BASE is the Combo number is
missing and i have the Pl #'s that are visable the proble is the the Tx
Works great but the Rx is Dead the first tuning step works at a peak
reading of 1.2volts
but after that forget it it was orginaly on 40.76 and moving it to
45.240
if i have the wrong split can i modify it so it will work if not does
anybody have a rx with the correct split i need
Thank you 73's

Brent DeSalvo (KF4TNP)

ICQ UIN# : 17430698
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Re: GE MASTER II Low BAND

Duane Hall
 

If the icom you took out is factory GE and is on 40.76 MHz, then you are
trying to take it out of spec.
I could confirm the model, what part numbers are visible?

Low band Mastr II's had the frequency ranges of 36 to 42 MHz or 42 to 50
MHz with the exception of the IMTS version which is 30-36 Tx 42-50 Rx

I'm not sure what mods will be needed to stretch it another 3.24 MHz.

Anyone?

----- Original Message -----
From: Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP <Bug1@...>
To: <repeater-builder@...>; <repeater@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 1999 6:50 PM
Subject: [Repeater-builder] GE MASTER II Low BAND


From: Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP <Bug1@...>

How can i identify what split my GE MASTER BASE is the Combo number is
missing and i have the Pl #'s that are visable the proble is the the Tx
Works great but the Rx is Dead the first tuning step works at a peak
reading of 1.2volts
but after that forget it it was orginaly on 40.76 and moving it to
45.240
if i have the wrong split can i modify it so it will work if not does
anybody have a rx with the correct split i need
Thank you 73's

Brent DeSalvo (KF4TNP)

ICQ UIN# : 17430698
Mailto:Bug1@...
Re: Newbie questions

[email protected]
 

You can make an excellent repeater by using the stock cards. And I applaud
you for wanting to try that. I am so tired of all these noise boxes on the
air these days. A repeater should repeater not broadcast! I use a simple
cwid. It is programmable. Forget the name but it can be found in the back of
most comm publications. I will look in my paper work Monday to find the name.

To answer your question about the timeout timer. You do not need it for the
repeater to function. It is a must to have it if you do not want the repeater
to get hung in XMIT from a jammer or such.

I have Converted many bases to repeater use. Most on Lowband with .500 split.
(had to put that dig in there Chris. :)) If you run this way and put a kill
circuit on a monitor you have all you need. Two tone decodes work great for a
kill decoder!

Kevin
Re: Newbie questions

John
 

Don't get any more modules. A repeater controller only needs receive audio,
COR, power and transmit input.

I'll leave the controller to others....

If you don't have a continuous duty PA, then turn the power DOWN to about 65
watts and use a fan!!!

John

----- Original Message ----- >
I just acquired a Motorola MSR2000 VHF 100w 4 ch base station, originally
set up for remote (two wire DC/tone) operation.

I want to convert this radio to a 2 meter repeater, and I understand that
a
"squelch gate" module (TRN5324A), with some modifications is the "main
thing" needed to make the conversion from base to repeater operations.

My questions are:

1. The instruction manual says that a "time out timer" module (TRN5295A)
is standard with the factory repeater configuration. Is this module
absolutely necessary for repeater operation (circuit wise)? Are there FCC
regs requiring or "good practice" conventions, so that installing a time
out timer is a must or highly recommended? (the PA/PS is 100% duty cycle)

2. What is the best, easily programmable, Morse CWID board available,
that requires minimum modification to the MSR2000 circuitry? (I want to
do
a "clean" installation.)

3. What other control modules should be left installed for repeater
operation? Presently the installed modules are: line driver, station
control module, guard tone decoder, squelch gate, four frequency control,
and R1 Audio.

4. Are there any RX-TX tune up issues (anything quirky)?

Thanks for any advise, or experience in advance,
Brian Litzenberger
GCK
N0PMZ







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Re: Need COS or COR signal from TM241radio

John
 

Try the busy LED.

----- Original Message ----- >
I have a TM241 2 meter radio by kenwood that I like to use as a link radio
for our repeater to another repeater. I need to know where I could get the
COS or the COR signal, at least 3volts dc when the rig is squelched (high).
The controller on our repeater is the RC1000v. Any info is much
appreciated.

Jerry
GE MASTER II Low BAND

Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP
 

How can i identify what split my GE MASTER BASE is the Combo number is
missing and i have the Pl #'s that are visable the proble is the the Tx
Works great but the Rx is Dead the first tuning step works at a peak
reading of 1.2volts
but after that forget it it was orginaly on 40.76 and moving it to
45.240
if i have the wrong split can i modify it so it will work if not does
anybody have a rx with the correct split i need
Thank you 73's

Brent DeSalvo (KF4TNP)

ICQ UIN# : 17430698
Mailto:Bug1@...
Re: Newbie questions

[email protected]
 

In a message dated 99-04-18 18:57:58 EDT, you write:

<< > I just acquired a Motorola MSR2000 VHF 100w 4 ch base station, originally
> set up for remote (two wire DC/tone) operation.
>
> I want to convert this radio to a 2 meter repeater, and I understand that
a
> "squelch gate" module (TRN5324A), with some modifications is the "main
> thing" needed to make the conversion from base to repeater operations.
>
> My questions are:
>
> 1. The instruction manual says that a "time out timer" module (TRN5295A)
> is standard with the factory repeater configuration. Is this module
> absolutely necessary for repeater operation (circuit wise)? Are there FCC
> regs requiring or "good practice" conventions, so that installing a time
> out timer is a must or highly recommended? (the PA/PS is 100% duty cycle)
>

No, your controller should now be the one to handle the TOT, ID, etc.
functions.

> 2. What is the best, easily programmable, Morse CWID board available,
> that requires minimum modification to the MSR2000 circuitry? (I want to
do
> a "clean" installation.)

Look at Richard Reese WA8DBW's page about adding and external controller to a
Micor (and presumabley MSR2000 - same basic control functions and pins on the
cards. Look at : <>. This
shoud give you a really CLEAN connection to the squelch gate. Plug and
UnPlug.
>
> 3. What other control modules should be left installed for repeater
> operation? Presently the installed modules are: line driver, station
> control module, guard tone decoder, squelch gate, four frequency control,
> and R1 Audio.
>
> 4. Are there any RX-TX tune up issues (anything quirky)? >>


Check the RX and TX cards in the cage - see whether they have the full-duplex
filtering coils and caps on them or not. If they don't, you may be in for
some internal desense, unless you get the manual and add in correct filtering
per schematics.

Also, be very wary of the PA - At least the UHF PAs for MSR2000's tend to not
really like continuous duty operation - there's a large current-sense
resistor in the PA which if the PA runs too hot for too long, its solder
moorings let loose and you've got flaky PA. Had this told to me by an
old-time Motorola bench tech, went looking for it and sure enuff that's what
I found and had to fix.

Good Luck!

Chuk Gleason
kb4mdz
Re: Mitek, Micor, or GE Radios wanted.

Kevin Mitchell <[email protected]
 

Hi Kevin,

Sure would like to pick it up, but New Zealand has a little too much water to
walk across to get to Georgia.
I will look at what I can do.

Regards

Kevin. ZL1UDD.


KC6OVD@... wrote:

From: KC6OVD@...

I have a GE master Exec. VHF looks to be 60 watts or better. How about 50
bucks + shipping? I have controllers also. In fact if you are close to
Acworth Georgia and have a pickup I will make you some deals by the pound!

Kevin

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TS-64

Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP
 

i have installed the TS-64 tone board into my ge master II base and it
will now incode an deccode but it says something about the reverse burst
and that it will eliminate the squelch tail by dropping the pl first
(when the radio is in enc/dec)
but have no such luck and when connected correct it goes inline with the
ptt line and it works great that way that is it keys but than no audio
or my curtious beep passes at all .. any info on this as to what i may
have done wrong
Re: rpt controler

Chris KF4PUW
 

well, yeah.. I can also go out and get a RLC-3 with all the "toppings" .
That is, if I had the cash! heh

Im probably going to just use it as a Link port.. Although I havent decided
on it yet.. (linking will come later) ..

but for $130.00 and everything the RC-100 offers it's great...

73, Chris


The RC-100 Remoter Base interface
well if you use it as a freq agile remote u will need a BCD controlled
radio for
it or u can use it as a link port
the NHRC 4 now is neat it has remote base port which can a link port or a
Full
DUplex repeater port just some ideas but than again it all depends how
much u
want to build and the price u want to spend and the application of use

Chris KF4PUW wrote:

From: "Chris KF4PUW" <ham_it_up@...>

I agree.. if your into building things, then the NHRC is the way to go..
you
can order all the parts and
the partial kit for about $60.00 and then build it..

I looked into it and thought about it, I am going to probably go with
the
MCC RC-100 ( ) its $130.00 , a
great
little controller, has DTMF commands, and a remote base interface..etc
etc..

73,
Chris KF4PUW

From: Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP <Bug1@...>

NHRC has a partial kit that you can purchase for about $30.00 i think,
take
a look at there web site



Benjamin Lee Spiteri wrote:

From: "Benjamin Lee Spiteri" <spits75@...>

could same one send me a repater controler sircet diagram &
component
lay out + ony other info I mite need to build one.
from ben
Information on Spec Comm

Phil and Lyn Radford
 

I'm looking for information on a Spec Comm model SCAP-3DC
phone patch, any help
would be appreciated. Thanks,
Phil Radford KE4COT
Re: rpt controler

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

I also agree with Chris....

Kevin Custer W3KKC
List Owner

Chris KF4PUW wrote:

From: "Chris KF4PUW" <ham_it_up@...>

I agree.. if your into building things, then the NHRC is the way to go.. you
can order all the parts and
the partial kit for about $60.00 and then build it..

I looked into it and thought about it, I am going to probably go with the
MCC RC-100 ( ) its $130.00 , a great
little controller, has DTMF commands, and a remote base interface..etc etc..

73,
Chris KF4PUW

From: Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP <Bug1@...>

NHRC has a partial kit that you can purchase for about $30.00 i think,
take
a look at there web site



Benjamin Lee Spiteri wrote:

From: "Benjamin Lee Spiteri" <spits75@...>

could same one send me a repater controler sircet diagram & component
lay out + ony other info I mite need to build one.
from ben
Re: rpt controler

Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP
 

The RC-100 Remoter Base interface
well if you use it as a freq agile remote u will need a BCD controlled radio for
it or u can use it as a link port
the NHRC 4 now is neat it has remote base port which can a link port or a Full
DUplex repeater port just some ideas but than again it all depends how much u
want to build and the price u want to spend and the application of use

Chris KF4PUW wrote:

From: "Chris KF4PUW" <ham_it_up@...>

I agree.. if your into building things, then the NHRC is the way to go.. you
can order all the parts and
the partial kit for about $60.00 and then build it..

I looked into it and thought about it, I am going to probably go with the
MCC RC-100 ( ) its $130.00 , a great
little controller, has DTMF commands, and a remote base interface..etc etc..

73,
Chris KF4PUW

From: Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP <Bug1@...>

NHRC has a partial kit that you can purchase for about $30.00 i think,
take
a look at there web site



Benjamin Lee Spiteri wrote:

From: "Benjamin Lee Spiteri" <spits75@...>

could same one send me a repater controler sircet diagram & component
lay out + ony other info I mite need to build one.
from ben

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Newbie questions

litz
 

I just acquired a Motorola MSR2000 VHF 100w 4 ch base station, originally
set up for remote (two wire DC/tone) operation.

I want to convert this radio to a 2 meter repeater, and I understand that a
"squelch gate" module (TRN5324A), with some modifications is the "main
thing" needed to make the conversion from base to repeater operations.

My questions are:

1. The instruction manual says that a "time out timer" module (TRN5295A)
is standard with the factory repeater configuration. Is this module
absolutely necessary for repeater operation (circuit wise)? Are there FCC
regs requiring or "good practice" conventions, so that installing a time
out timer is a must or highly recommended? (the PA/PS is 100% duty cycle)

2. What is the best, easily programmable, Morse CWID board available,
that requires minimum modification to the MSR2000 circuitry? (I want to do
a "clean" installation.)

3. What other control modules should be left installed for repeater
operation? Presently the installed modules are: line driver, station
control module, guard tone decoder, squelch gate, four frequency control,
and R1 Audio.

4. Are there any RX-TX tune up issues (anything quirky)?

Thanks for any advise, or experience in advance,
Brian Litzenberger
GCK
N0PMZ
Re: rpt controler

Chris KF4PUW
 

I agree.. if your into building things, then the NHRC is the way to go.. you
can order all the parts and
the partial kit for about $60.00 and then build it..

I looked into it and thought about it, I am going to probably go with the
MCC RC-100 ( ) its $130.00 , a great
little controller, has DTMF commands, and a remote base interface..etc etc..

73,
Chris KF4PUW



From: Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP <Bug1@...>

NHRC has a partial kit that you can purchase for about $30.00 i think,
take
a look at there web site



Benjamin Lee Spiteri wrote:

From: "Benjamin Lee Spiteri" <spits75@...>

could same one send me a repater controler sircet diagram & component
lay out + ony other info I mite need to build one.
from ben

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Re: rpt controler

Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP
 

NHRC has a partial kit that you can purchase for about $30.00 i think, take
a look at there web site



Benjamin Lee Spiteri wrote:

From: "Benjamin Lee Spiteri" <spits75@...>

could same one send me a repater controler sircet diagram & component
lay out + ony other info I mite need to build one.
from ben

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Re: MASTER II BASE

Justin Reed
 

which will be better to you the com-spec or the factory board i have the
correct tone that i will be using for the factory board will it enc/dec
at the same time?
The factory GE boards will not Enc/Dec at the same time. The TS-32 was
replaced by the TS-64, which is a much better board (more versatile) and
it's the same price. There is also a TS-32 and TS-64 available that
directly plug into the Exec II and Mastr II radios.

Justin and Kim Reed
NUJQ and KBNTH
910 N. Argyle
Minneapolis, Kansas 67467

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Need COS or COR signal from TM241radio

  
 

I have a TM241 2 meter radio by kenwood that I like to use as a link radio for our repeater to another repeater. I need to know where I could get the COS or the COR signal, at least 3volts dc when the rig is squelched (high). The controller on our repeater is the RC1000v. Any info is much appreciated.

Jerry
Re: TS-64

Justin Reed
 

At 15:10 4/18/99 -0500, you wrote:
From: Brent DeSalvo KF4TNP <Bug1@...>

i have installed the TS-64 tone board into my ge master II base and it
will now incode an deccode but it says something about the reverse burst
and that it will eliminate the squelch tail by dropping the pl first
(when the radio is in enc/dec)
but have no such luck and when connected correct it goes inline with the
ptt line and it works great that way that is it keys but than no audio
or my curtious beep passes at all .. any info on this as to what i may
have done wrong
Com Spec makes an interface board for the TS-64 that will plug directly
onto the factory GE pins. No mess or fuss.

Justin and Kim Reed
NUJQ and KBNTH
910 N. Argyle
Minneapolis, Kansas 67467

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