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Mastr II Cos question

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

Hello all,

On the GE conversion site I sponsor on rbtip I have information on
the conversion of the Mastr II.


A while back someone told me that the information on the cos that
is suggested for use is not really the best one to use. I believe
the gent said the rus or rui line is a better place because it
follows the Channel Guard and also has some hysteresis built in
when mobiles are in flutter.

What's the consensus?

What is the pin number for RUS or RUI, or what ever the hell it's
called?

I did not originally build the GE Mastr II conversion site on my
server, I inherited it. I am not real well versed on the GE stuff,
but I would like to update this info to be more correct.
I have done several conversions (long ago) on Mastr II's and I
don't even remember what I used.

Thanks,
Kevin


Re: Remote Sites

Patrick Nicholson
 

Hi,

I will let you know if anyone comes up with a good inexpensive solution!
There are several ways to do it, but I am hoping I can find a way to keep
everything on one frequency, isntead of going cross-band.

At 09:05 AM 3/24/99 -0800, you wrote:
From: Cristobal Inos <soni@...>

Patrick Nicholson wrote:

From: Patrick Nicholson <patrickn@...>

Hello,

I have a repeater system consisting of a Yaesu VXR5000 UHF repeate and a
Computer Automation Technology CAT300 controller. I have the repeater at a
church in my city.. The coverage is not that great, and I would like to
expand it. I am seeking advise on what I need to do. I live south of
Seattle, WA. I have located a nice places for a remote site there, this
would allow my group to communicate between the counties and cities
inbetween. I am not sure how to link the systems so that they are on the
same freq.

I was thinking about putting two mobiles and a controller at the other
site, and using a different PL. That way, when users move out of range,
they can switch PL's and gain access. I have a yaesu and ADI mobile rig,
and a handheld controller to do this with.

Thanks,

Pat N7WGR

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reply:

I am in the pacific islands (Mariana Islands) - Guam, Rota, Tinian
-theisland that launched the atomic bomb that forcedJapan to surrender-
Saipan and 12 additional islands leading to Japan.

I am in the very same situation as you are -what you posted in the list-
There is no technical person around in this small island, Saipan,
population of 15,ooo. Too expensive to employ a technical person.

I am not a technical person...I just bought a company -providing two-way
radio- that went under and I continued to provide services to government
and private sectors for the past 5 years.

If you are successful in connecting different sites,,,keep me posted so
that I can enlist the services of whomever helped you out.

thanks

chris inos
wh6um



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Re: Newsletter

Richard D. Reese
 

For all that may be interested (Ohio & surrounding States), I have placed a
copy of the April Ohio Area Repeater Council newsletter on my page at:


Pass it on to you friends
Thanks and 73

--
Richard D. Reese WA8DBW
Voice 330-335-0122


Remote Sites

Patrick Nicholson
 

Hello,

I have a repeater system consisting of a Yaesu VXR5000 UHF repeate and a
Computer Automation Technology CAT300 controller. I have the repeater at a
church in my city.. The coverage is not that great, and I would like to
expand it. I am seeking advise on what I need to do. I live south of
Seattle, WA. I have located a nice places for a remote site there, this
would allow my group to communicate between the counties and cities
inbetween. I am not sure how to link the systems so that they are on the
same freq.

I was thinking about putting two mobiles and a controller at the other
site, and using a different PL. That way, when users move out of range,
they can switch PL's and gain access. I have a yaesu and ADI mobile rig,
and a handheld controller to do this with.

Thanks,

Pat N7WGR


GE MASTER II DC control Card

KF4TNP
 

Looking for a ge master II DC Control Card?
anybody that has one for sale or trade please let me know thank you
at bug1@...
Brent


Mitrek repeater conversion

 

Hi All,

I have several Mitrek VHF radios I would like to convert to repeaters. I
have searched the NET, and have found 3 different version of the conversion
instructions. I am sure out of all the people who frequent this list, that
all of the different conversion instructions have been attempted, so I am
hoping any one who has done it, if you could advise me which one or ones
worked, and if you attempted a conversion and it didn't work, I would
certainly like to know which one or ones didn't work. If you have any links
to sites either way, I would certainly appreciate thier address or link.

Thanx
Mike


Re: Remote Sites

 

In a message dated 3/23/1999 4:59:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,
patrickn@... writes:

<<
Hello,

I have a repeater system consisting of a Yaesu VXR5000 UHF repeate and a
Computer Automation Technology CAT300 controller. I have the repeater at a
church in my city.. The coverage is not that great, and I would like to
expand it. I am seeking advise on what I need to do. I live south of
Seattle, WA. I have located a nice places for a remote site there, this
would allow my group to communicate between the counties and cities
inbetween. I am not sure how to link the systems so that they are on the
same freq.

I was thinking about putting two mobiles and a controller at the other
site, and using a different PL. That way, when users move out of range,
they can switch PL's and gain access. I have a yaesu and ADI mobile rig,
and a handheld controller to do this with.

Thanks,

Pat N7WGR
>>


I would consider using either some older mobiles, such as the Master II,
Exec II, Micor and Mitrek, one UHF and the Other another band, and set up a
Crossband repeater. This would listen on the current input on UHF, and
retransmit it on the other band to the repeater site, where there would be a
reciever. You will most likely have to use a voter/comparator of some sort so
that the UHF repeater can decide which reciever to make active.

I am sure someone else has a better idea, but this is how I would do it.

Mike


Re: GE MASTER II DC control Card

edriddle
 

if you will contact gene diehl telephone 219 495 5715 he will sell you a
complete master II for 45 dollars plus shipping which will have everything
you would need to repair yours for a long time. he may have parts , you
will have to check him. his email was and may still be
n9lcf@... 73 ed n4ale

At 01:40 PM 3/23/99 -0600, you wrote:
From: KF4TNP <Bug1@...>

Looking for a ge master II DC Control Card?
anybody that has one for sale or trade please let me know thank you
at bug1@...
Brent


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ge and motorola

KF4TNP
 

i have a motorola commander series model L1474A remote consel
and would
like to hook it up to my GE master II low band Base can any
body out
there help ? and in what refrence would the control terminals
on the
rear of the master ii help if any thank you


Re: M400

tom oliver
 

I have done maratrac's with the m 400 software and no special keystrokes
were required to take them into the ham bands just direct entry.

tom n8ies

Jim Horvat wrote:

From: Jim Horvat <w8wrp@...>

Can some one tell me the Key strokes to take the Motorola M 4oo
software out of band so I can program the Ham freqs.
Thanks Jim W8WRP

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Re: A Challenge.. / and another with a Mitrek

Alex Groza
 

Are the Red/Black wires still connected to the TX relay at the antenna
connector? They should be cut.

mch wrote:

From: mch <mch@...>

I wrote (originally):
One more quick thing on a Mitrek. I have one on 440 I duplexed that is
deaf as a stump until the TX comes up. Then, the sensitivity is great!
As soon as the tail drops, it goes back to being deaf. Here's the
kicker: it ONLY does it when connected to the duplexer. It works
flawless if I connect the RX to an IFR to test the sensitivity.
Then Joe Orrico WB6HRO wrote:

Sounds the the diode that must be removed to keep the voltage on the
rx is not correct, would suspect that rx voltage is not right during
normal rx function.
But how would a receiver connected to an IFR differ in voltage from a
receiver connected to a duplexer? In case I gave the wrong impression,
the unit is still at the repeater site - the only change is that the RX
antenna was 'pulled' from the duplexer and plugged into the IFR. The TX
is still connected to the duplexer, and the power (both TX and supply)
is exactly the same. It's as if the duplexer is severely mis-tuned. And
since I didn't mention this either, it works flawless on a Mastr-II - RX
sensitivity is great both direct and through the duplexer, so the
duplexer is tuned correctly. (In fact, it has never been changed from
the factory)

I will check the voltages, though. The only problem is that the
troubleshooting must be done at the repeater site. The duplexer is the
one in normal use. This is almost like reverse desense - perhaps there
was a slight spur when the TX was inactive that severely desensed the
RX??? I didn't check that.

Thanks for the response,
Joe, KR3P

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Re: A Challenge.. / and another with a Mitrek

mch
 

I wrote (originally):
One more quick thing on a Mitrek. I have one on 440 I duplexed that is
deaf as a stump until the TX comes up. Then, the sensitivity is great!
As soon as the tail drops, it goes back to being deaf. Here's the
kicker: it ONLY does it when connected to the duplexer. It works
flawless if I connect the RX to an IFR to test the sensitivity.
Then Joe Orrico WB6HRO wrote:

Sounds the the diode that must be removed to keep the voltage on the
rx is not correct, would suspect that rx voltage is not right during
normal rx function.
But how would a receiver connected to an IFR differ in voltage from a
receiver connected to a duplexer? In case I gave the wrong impression,
the unit is still at the repeater site - the only change is that the RX
antenna was 'pulled' from the duplexer and plugged into the IFR. The TX
is still connected to the duplexer, and the power (both TX and supply)
is exactly the same. It's as if the duplexer is severely mis-tuned. And
since I didn't mention this either, it works flawless on a Mastr-II - RX
sensitivity is great both direct and through the duplexer, so the
duplexer is tuned correctly. (In fact, it has never been changed from
the factory)

I will check the voltages, though. The only problem is that the
troubleshooting must be done at the repeater site. The duplexer is the
one in normal use. This is almost like reverse desense - perhaps there
was a slight spur when the TX was inactive that severely desensed the
RX??? I didn't check that.

Thanks for the response,
Joe, KR3P


Re: Squelch on GE Mastr II

mch
 

There are jumper changes when you install/uninstall a CTCSS board. I
know one is on the front/left side of the system board (with the handle
facing you). That is the PTT control jumper that selects normal PTT vs
Delayed PTT. With the jumper in the 'CTCSS' position, the unit will not
transmit (using the PTT line) without the CTCSS board actually being in
the unit. If you jump 10V to the oscillator control, the unit will TX
anyway and this jumper doesn't apply since that point is after the
jumper. I don't recall where the others are offhand. I don't have the
manuals at home. Check the voltages at the points labeled RX MUTE -
that's on the connector on the system board that is on the extreme
right. SQ Disable should only disable CTCSS and should not itself open
the squelch but RX MUTE will open the squelch. When squelched, RX MUTE
is a logic low (0V). One word of caution if you don't already know - the
label on that connector (J903?) is *usually* offset a little from the
pins, so make sure you are looking at the correct pin.

Well, back on topic, the unit should not open squelch just due to the
removal of the CTCSS board. Unplug the board - the RX becomes CSQ with
no jumper changes necessary. The RX MUTE (NOT CAS) will even work as a
CSQ unit. Of course, CAS always follows the receiver regardless of CTCSS
presence. Does the unit receive on the selected frequency?

OH! Check your 10V supply! That could open the squelch. It has to be
10V +/- a few hundredths.

I want to correct something I said earlier. I believe an *internal*
squelch WAS an OEM option on a Mastr-II. It was rare, but I think I do
remember seeing a unit that had one. The only control on the C/HD was
volume and on/off.

Ed Bathgate, RMA Repair Dept x8785 wrote:


This is a mobile Mastr II, low band 48mhz. I have the
control head, and the squelch control changes a voltage on
the plug in panel test point, but the receiver stays un squelched.
I am assuming that an RF squelch was disabled if this unit
was on a PL tone, is there a wire or jumper to disable the squelch?


Re: Squelch on GE Mastr II

edriddle
 

the squelch circut is all ready there. you merely need to put in a pot to
set it 73 ed n4ale look at the ge page on the internet and it will tell
you where and how.

At 04:11 PM 3/22/99 -0500, you wrote:
From: "Ed Bathgate, RMA Repair Dept x8785" <ed@...>


Is a squelch circuit an option on a GE Mastr II?

Is it a module?
Is there a way to build one?

73

Ed N3SDO


Ed Bathgate RMA Dept (724) 772-8785
pager (412) 649-6773

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Re: Squelch on GE Mastr II

Ed Bathgate, RMA Repair Dept x8785
 

This is a mobile Mastr II, low band 48mhz. I have the
control head, and the squelch control changes a voltage on
the plug in panel test point, but the receiver stays un squelched.
I am assuming that an RF squelch was disabled if this unit
was on a PL tone, is there a wire or jumper to disable the squelch?

Ed N3SDO






Ed Bathgate RMA Dept (724) 772-8785
pager (412) 649-6773


Re: Squelch on GE Mastr II

KF4TNP
 

you can purchase one or build your own take a look at the NHRC web page
under master II info



Ed Bathgate RMA Repair Dept x8785 wrote:

From: "Ed Bathgate, RMA Repair Dept x8785" <ed@...>

Is a squelch circuit an option on a GE Mastr II?

Is it a module?
Is there a way to build one?

73

Ed N3SDO

Ed Bathgate RMA Dept (724) 772-8785
pager (412) 649-6773

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Re: Squelch on GE Mastr II

mch
 

If you mean a squelch operated relay, it was an option on the base
units. You can hear that relay trip hundreds of feet away from the unit.
If you mean an internal (to the drawer unit) squelch, I think there may
have been one, but it is really easy to build - just use a 10K pot with
the ends tied to Vol-SQ hi and low respectively, and the center tied to
the point marked Squelch Arm. There is a company that sells plug in
boards for the M-II mobile (or base, I guess) that has both the squelch
and audio pots mounted. See:

I haven't used that module myself. I prefer multi-turn pots in the
squelch circuit for additional control (accuracy).

Joe, KR3P
(also near the 'Burgh)

Ed Bathgate, RMA Repair Dept x8785 wrote:


Is a squelch circuit an option on a GE Mastr II?

Is it a module?
Is there a way to build one?


Squelch on GE Mastr II

Ed Bathgate, RMA Repair Dept x8785
 

Is a squelch circuit an option on a GE Mastr II?

Is it a module?
Is there a way to build one?

73

Ed N3SDO


Ed Bathgate RMA Dept (724) 772-8785
pager (412) 649-6773


M400

Jim Horvat
 

Can some one tell me the Key strokes to take the Motorola M 4oo
software out of band so I can program the Ham freqs.
Thanks Jim W8WRP


Down Time

Kevin K. Custer W3KKC
 

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